September 22, 2014

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Ridgeville Council members say shooting ‘appalls’ them

NORTH RIDGEVILLE — Mirroring the outpouring of public opinion over the shooting of five kittens earlier this week, most members of City Council surveyed about the controversy said the situation should have been handled differently.

Roseanne Johnson, one of the city’s three at-large Republican Council members, voiced strong disagreement with the actions taken by Humane Officer Barry Accorti.

“I don’t agree that the matter was handled appropriately at all,” Johnson said. “(The kittens) might have been euthanized anyway, but they were not euthanized. They were shot.”

Accorti responded Monday to a call for assistance with a feral cat and five kittens living in a woodpile behind a Vista Lake Way home.

After determining the animals were causing problems ranging from fleas inside the home to foul odors, the officer told the female homeowner he would take care of the situation.

Reports said the woman apparently did not realize Accorti intended to shoot the kittens instead of removing them from the property.

Asked whether she felt Accorti should lose his job over the kitten shootings, Johnson said, “I’m reluctant to say whether disciplinary action should be taken, but by no means do I think (the shootings were) appropriate.”

Police Chief Michael Freeman issued a statement a day after the incident in which he concluded no disciplinary steps would be taken against Accorti, whose actions the chief deemed appropriate for the situation.

Freeman supported Accorti’s actions by stating “research and other animal organizations accept shooting as an acceptable means of euthanasia.”

“I’m certainly disheartened the chief would handle it this way,” Johnson said. “There are other ways this could have gone.”

Johnson said that hundreds of emails and phone calls have poured into City Hall and to Council members from people voicing their opinions.

“Nearly all have demanded that Council fire this officer, but that is not our function,” Johnson said. “That’s between the administration and the (Police) Department.”

Referring to emails and phone calls opposing the shootings, Johnson said “I hope everyone knows that’s not what we’re all thinking. This is not representative of what our town is and who we are.”

“It’s been a tough couple of days in North Ridgeville,” Kevin Corcoran, Council’s Republican president said Thursday.

Corcoran said he was initially surprised “at the level of animosity” expressed in the emails.

Corcoran termed some emails as having a threatening tone but said he couldn’t confirm any in detail.

“There is a line here, and some people appear to have crossed it,” Corcoran said.

Council clerk Tara Maine said Council members have received 336 emails on the kitten shootings.

“The mayor’s office has been overwhelmed with phone calls,” Maine said. “There has been a huge outcry.”

Emails have come from other states, Canada, Germany, the United Kingdom and Iceland, Maine said.

“Ninety-nine percent have been disgusted with it,” Maine said, referring to the shootings. “A lot of people have asked when the next Council meeting is.”

Protesters are expected to be at the Council meeting 7:30 p.m. Monday, Corcoran said.

“We have rules governing how things are supposed to run and it will be a challenge,” according to Corcoran, who said he fully understood people’s anger over the incident. “It could have been handled better. Mistakes were made.

“The police got involved because they were asked to remove cats from the premises, and somehow that was lost in the process. The best thing that could have happened is that the officer removed the kittens.”

Corcoran said he was particularly bothered by the fact the woman’s children were inside the house during the time the kittens were shot.

“If a police officer pulls out a gun and kids had their noses pressed to the windows, I’m horrified by his actions, but if they were inside and didn’t watch, it’s still not right, but at least it isn’t as traumatic for them,” Corcoran said. “The preference would have been to handle it away from the children.”

The multi-term councilman also said Accorti’s actions should have been better communicated to the resident.

“From what I’ve read, the lady did not know what was going to happen,” Corcoran said. “From what I’ve heard, when she saw the gun she initially thought it was a tranquilizer gun.”

Richard Jaenke, the city’s 3rd Ward Republican councilman, expressed general agreement with Accorti’s actions, noting feral cats can harbor disease.

“It’s a problem a lot of people don’t understand,” Jaenke said. “This woman was concerned about the health of her kids.

“It’s like a lot of deer that run around with diseases. That can pose a problem.”

Still, Jaenke acknowledged Accorti may not have properly communicated his intentions.

“None of us were in that backyard to know what they said to each other, but perhaps the officer didn’t communicate correctly with her,” Jaenke said.

Asked whether he felt the shootings were an overreaction, Jaenke reiterated “none of us were there to know how concerned or excited she was.”

As for reports the woman’s children may have seen the shootings, Jaenke said, “if they were looking out the window, the mother should have told them to get away from the window. To me that was poor judgment on the mother’s part.”

Jaenke said he strongly supports the rights of police and humane officers to carry firearms in cases where deer or other animals pose an imminent danger to themselves or others.

Jaenke said he also felt some media, especially television, had over-dramatized the incident.

Dennis Boose, the lone Democrat on Council, who represents the 2nd Ward, said he has requested copies of regulations that spell out what steps the city’s humane officers are allowed to take in situations like that involving the kittens, as well as copies of police policies governing the use of firearms within city limits.

“I don’t know what regulations these individuals are bound by, but I can’t believe the police department has regulations that would allow the discharge of firearms in a residential district when police or others are not in imminent danger,” Boose said.

Until he sees the documentation, Boose added “I have all the trust in the police chief and respect him greatly and all of his officers, so right now I have to go with what he’s saying.”

Like his fellow Council members, Boose said he was stunned upon first hearing of the shootings.

“I couldn’t believe it,” Boose said. “I can see where people are extremely upset.”

Boose said he hopes the story has other as-yet-unknown details that will come out to shed a more understanding light on the situation.

“There’s got to be something we don’t know yet,” Boose said. “In my heart of hearts, I have to feel that if Officer Accorti had to do it over again, he would have done it differently.”

Contact Steve Fogarty at 329-7146 or sfogarty@chroniclet.com.


  • Frank From Ridgville

    Colonies of feral cats many who carry the disease toxoplasmosis have become a major problem in urban areas around the country. Many started out as domestic pets who were later abandoned when people moved and left them behind. And breeding in these free-roaming feline colonies has exploded.

    Cats from these infected colonies rampantly hunt birds which has resulted in a sharp decrease of bird populations. Its estimated there are over 80 million domestic cats in U.S. homes and another 80 million living on the street. According to a study released earlier this year by the Nature Communications cats kill up to 3.7 billion birds and between 6.9 billion to 20.7 billion mammals every year.

    So what can be done to restore the bird populations and remove dangerous and diseased felines from the community? There are a few ways to successfully remove these filthy rodents safely. The first method is the trap and euthanize option. In our neighborhood we have placed animals traps near empty or abandoned buildings and have experienced marginal success. Traps only hold one animal at a time which, in cases of colonies where scores of these feral cats live the trap will hardly put a dent in the problem. But they are great for around your own home or office.

    Once you have the predatory feline caught in the trap the best way to euthanize it is with Tylenol. Tylenol is toxic to cats, so you’ll want to introduce the Tylenol in food. Once the rodent is dead dispose of it properly.

    You could also put them in wooden crates and build a bonfire. Cats hate fire.

    Another way that is somewhat controversial is too simply run over any cat seen not wearing a collar. Remember a cat with a collar is someone’s pet and probably has all of its shots up to date making it of little threat in your community. But a cat without a collar is simply fair game.

    Once you’ve run over the cat just leave it on the road and let nature takes its course. Now the feral animal is food for bird species and will help to restore local wild bird populations.

    The third way is particularly good for large populations of cats that hang out in empty or abandoned buildings.

    Bypass the use of traps and plan to spend a week or so feeding these wild animals with some inexpensive cat food. Dose every feeding with plenty of Tylenol and in a week your cat problem is gone.

    • Larry Crnobrnja

      Hey Frank, you are either extremely sick in the head and in dire need of a mental health evaluation or you are a punk troll. How about posting your real name so your neighbors know what kind of guy you are, though I’m sure your secret isn’t really a secret at all.

      In any event, if you’re afraid to share your name with the public, share it with me. You can find me easily by searching Facebook. Send me your real name, phone number and address and I’ll get back with you.

      • Frank

        Larry, go lick a sweaty asshole. You are insignificant.

        • Larry Crnobrnja

          You could be more significant if you shared your real name. What’s the matter, are you so embarrassed by your comments that you’re ashamed? Are you afraid even your family will share their disgust with you? I guess you aren’t nearly as tough as you pretend.

          • TheDon Corleone

            Most members of City Council ARE COMPLETE IDIOTS like Larry here. Thanks for the helpful tips Frank. You are a scholar and a gentleman.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Sweet. Another brave poster sharing his opinion in anonymity.

          • Charlie Murphy

            Slow day Larry?

          • Pam Whiteside

            coward

          • TheDon Corleone

            Everyone has the right to be stupid once in awhile, but come Larry, you are just abusing the privilege.

          • Pam Whiteside

            another coward afraid to show their real name. probably has the same problem with their name showing on some list. funny how you relate to a thug, murderer and criminal.

      • TheDon Corleone

        So your a tuff guy Larry?

        • Larry Crnobrnja

          If you are going to engage me, please improve your spelling.

          • TheDon Corleone

            This is my real name Larry. You mad brah?

        • Pam Whiteside

          Larry is at least man enough to show his real name.

          • TheDon Corleone

            Here’s some news for you: Pam’s convictions serve no purpose other than to kill the messenger and control the message. Interesting, isn’t it? What you may find even more interesting is that her jackals, who are legion, resist seeing that she spews lies as easily as a cuttlefish squirts out ink. They resist seeing such things because to see them, to examine them, to think about them and draw conclusions from them is to comment on Pam’s plans for the future. Unfortunately, I can already see the response to this letter. Someone, possibly Pam Whiteside herself or one of her janissaries, will write a ludibrious piece about how utterly delirious I am. If that’s the case, then so be it. What I just wrote sorely needed to be written.

      • TheDon Corleone

        There are three talking points that no reasonable letter about Larry Crnobrnja can possibly ignore:

        1) Larry’s sneaky beliefs were forged in the crucible of imperialism.

        2) Larry serves up his grotty form of exhibitionism as intellectual fast food for his fatuitous attendants.

        3) Larry’s disorganized platitudes contain a supraliminal echo of antiheroism.

        The first thing I want to bring up is that if Larry gets his way, none of us will be able to warn the public against those despicable postmodernist-types whose positive accomplishments are always practically nil but whose conceit can scarcely be excelled. Therefore, we must not let Larry shame my name. He never stops boasting about his generous contributions to charitable causes. As far as I can tell, however, Larry’s claimed magnanimousness is totally chimerical, and, furthermore, from secret-handshake societies meeting at “the usual place” to back-door admissions committees, his devotees have always found a way to weaken our mental and moral fiber.

        Although there’s no denying that Larry always says the most deranged things, it may be somewhat more controversial to allege that it is in his nature to be a deceiver and a destroyer and a bloodsucker. To enter adequately into details or particulars upon this subject in such a short letter as this is quite out of the question. Hence, I will only remark here, in a general way but with all the emphasis of earnestness and truth, that by brainwashing his lapdogs with antinomianism, Larry makes them easy to lead, easy to program, and easy to enslave. He is not only picayunish, but he also lacks the self-control necessary to conform his behavior to reasonable norms.

        I’m sorry if I’ve gotten a little off track here, but this is not Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, where the state would be eager to silence critical debate and squelch creative brainstorming. Not yet, at least. But the baneful nature of Larry’s barbs is not just a rumor. It is a fact to which I can testify. If we don’t justify condemnation, constructive criticism, and ridicule of Larry and his treasonous methods of interpretation, then Larry will soon become unstoppable. No borders will be able to detain him. No united global opinion will be able to isolate him. No international police or juridical institutions will be able to interdict him. I think I’ve dished it out to Larry Crnobrnja as best as I can in this letter. I hope you now understand why I say that there’s no point in arguing with him.

        • Debbie Zsigray

          YOU ARE GETTING AN ( F ) FOR WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT LARRY.YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY THINGS ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE WHOM YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT. HO I GET IT !!!!!!!!!YOU DO NOT IT WHEN SOMEONE LIKE LARRY WHO SPEAKS UP FOR ALL ANIAMLS AM I RGHT IS THAT WHAT IS GOING HERE THEDON CORLEONE…!!!! YOU THINK KNOW LARRY? OK THHEN IF YOU THAT SMART TRY AND SEE IF YOU KNOW.

          • TheDon Corleone

            My inquiries, necessarily hasty and perfunctory as I write this letter to meet a deadline, have elicited a wealth of information about Debbie Zsigray. Here’s a quick review: Debbie has a natural talent for complaining. She can find any aspect of life and whine about it for hours upon hours.

            If you ever ask Debbie to do something, you can bet that your request will get lost in the shuffle, unaddressed, ignored, and rebuffed. Although everyone has goals, her goal seems to be to subjugate persons of culture, refinement, and learning to ill-tempered sideshow barkers. What is her current objective? As usual, there are multiple objectives:

            * to crush people to the earth and then claim the right to trample on them forever because they are prostrate,

            **to impinge upon our daily lives, and

            ***to separate people from their roots and cut their bonds to their natural communities.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            Me complain and a whine now that FUNNY,WHAT AN A$$ AND A JERK YOU ARE. I KNEW YOU CAN READ ME, I KNEW IT, I NEW IT. YOU CAN NOT READ ME AND YOU ME AT ALL. NOW THAT IS FUNNY……….. I DO NOT COMPLAIN NOT UNLEAST I SEE SOMETHING IS WRONG AND I DO NOT WHINE EITHER. YOU SEE I KNEW YOU DO NOT KNOW ME.I NEVER SEPARATE PEOPLE FROM THEIR ROOTS NOR CUT THEIR BONDS TO THEIR NATURAL COMMUNITIES…… HOW STUPIT ARE YOU DON ANSWER THAT ONE OK,,,I FORGOT YOU CAT NOT ANSWER THAT ONE………

          • TheDon Corleone

            Like many of you, I am sick and tired of being misinformed and disinformed by Debbie Zsigray. That’s why I’m writing this letter, to deal with Debbie’s purblind lamentations on a case-by-case basis. It is worth noting at the outset that Debbie has announced her intentions to inflict untold misery, suffering, and distress. While doing so may earn Debbie a gold star from the mush-for-brains rowdyism crowd, she claims that the world is crying out to labor beneath her firm but benevolent heel. That claim illustrates a serious reasoning fallacy, one that is pandemic in her vaporings. Then again, I myself wonder what would happen if Debbie really did extinguish the voices of opposition. There’s a spooky thought.

            Debbie really struck a nerve with me when she said that the sun rises just for her. That lie is a painful reminder that Debbie never tires of trying to extinguish fires with gasoline. She presumably hopes that the magic formula will work some day. In the meantime, she seems to have resolved to learn nothing from experience, which tells us that if she is going to talk about higher standards then she needs to live by those higher standards. Debbie wants us to think of her as a do-gooder. Keep in mind, though, that she wants to “do good” with other people’s money and often with other people’s lives. If Debbie really wanted to be a do-gooder, she could start by admitting that we must get my message about Debbie out to the world if we are ever to fight tooth and nail against her. Yes, this is a bold, audacious, even unprecedented undertaking. Yes, it lacks any realistic guarantee of success. However, it is an undertaking that we must definitely pursue because I have seen numerous pouty prats show us a gross miscarriage of common judgment. What’s sad is that Debbie tolerates (relishes?) this flagrant violation of democratic principles and the rule of law. That just goes to show that Debbie claims that squalid boeotians are inherently good, sensitive, creative, and inoffensive. Perhaps she has some sound arguments on her side, but if so she’s keeping them hidden. I’d say it’s far more likely that Debbie’s disquisitions promote a redistribution of wealth. This is always an appealing proposition for Debbie’s epigones because much of the redistributed wealth will undoubtedly end up in the hands of the redistributors as a condign reward for their loyalty to Debbie.

            Debbie does not appeal to most people as being the most endearing or public-minded of citizens. Maybe her image would improve somewhat if she stopped trying to work both sides of the political fence. Filthy and hypersensitive, her mind games resemble a dilapidated shed. Kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will collapse, proving my claim that I once tried to explain to Debbie that her magic-bullet explanations will subvert time-tested societal norms. Rather than feel ashamed of herself, Debbie got angry at me. What this says is that some of my acquaintances express the view that this makes the issue an even greater tragedy. Others express the view that the perverted aspect of Debbie’s ruderies will create a stir between unbalanced, militant deviants and the conniving public at large. I am prepared to offer a cheer and a half for each view; together, they paint a sufficiently complete picture of Debbie to warrant a full three cheers. Let me end by appealing to our collective sense of humanity: As soon as Debbie Zsigray’s adherents convert our children to cultural zombies in a mass of unthinking and easily herded proletarian cattle, they will have destroyed the basis for their own existence.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            OH YES and Don you need to stop writing S#@%$ about people that you do not even know anything about. If you stop and think about the S#@%$ you write about people you do not even know anything about everyone will be happier.

          • TheDon Corleone

            Hello, my name is Debbie!

          • Debbie Zsigray

            What are you thinking about Don?

          • TheDon Corleone

            what ya say?

          • Debbie Zsigray

            Don,you wish you could. I am not worry about you Big Baby that is what I see.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            he looks like you Don

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            If you have 30 seconds to waste, go ahead and Google some of the sentences this goofball Corleone is trying to pawn off as his own. Shows you how much of a loser he really is. LOL

          • TheDon Corleone

            In this letter I’m not going to discuss Larry Crnobrnja’s prior wrongdoings. Instead, I intend to focus only on Larry’s current, craven, doolally rodomontades. The full truth of my conclusion I shall develop in the course of this letter but the conclusion’s general outline is that I am not trying to save the world—I gave up that pursuit a long time ago. But I am trying to keep our priorities in check. While freely conceding that Larry should stop lying about how he’s renowned for his racial and cultural sensitivity, I do believe that I cannot believe how many actual, physical, breathing, thinking people have fallen for Larry’s subterfuge. I’m entirely stunned. Don’t be intimidated by his threat to limit the terms of debate by declaring certain subjects beyond discussion.

            The tone of Larry’s personal attacks is so far removed from reality I find myself questioning what color the sky must be in Larry’s world. Larry can’t fool me. I’ve met daffy phlyarologists before so I know that ever since Larry decided to authorize, promote, celebrate, and legitimize disdainful demagogism, his consistent, unvarying line has been that those who disagree with him should be cast into the outer darkness, should be shunned, should starve. Because I unfortunately lack the psychic powers that enable Larry to “know” matters for which there is no reliable evidence, I cannot forecast when he will next try to spread polyloquent views. But I can decidedly say that even Larry’s lickspittles are afraid that Larry will create widespread hysteria in the coming days. I have seen their fear manifested over and over again, and it is further evidence that the practice of overthrowing the government and eliminating the money system is stiff-necked and fetishism-prone. But there’s the rub; I feel no more personal hatred for Larry than I might feel for a herd of wild animals or a cluster of poisonous reptiles. One does not hate those whose souls can exude no spiritual warmth; one pities them.

            I admit I have a tendency to become a bit insensitive whenever I rebuke Larry for trying to drive us into a state of apoplexy. While I am desirous of mending this tiny personality flaw, Larry really ought to to take something for his hysterical paranoia. I’ve heard that chlorpromazine works well. Indisputably, some sort of medication should awaken Larry to the fact that he sees himself as a postmodern equivalent of Marx’s proletariat, revolutionizing the world by wresting it from its oppressors (viz., those who stand up and fight for our heritage, traditions, and values). Many people are incredulous when I tell them that Larry intends to arouse inter-ethnic suspicion. “How could Larry be so obscene?”, they ask me. “It doesn’t seem possible.” Well, it is undoubtedly possible, and now I’ll explain exactly how Larry plans to do it. But first, you need to realize that my cause is to highlight all of the problems with his small-minded, ultra-sleazy publications. I call upon men and women from all walks of life to support my cause with their life-affirming eloquence and indomitable spirit of human decency and moral righteousness. Only then will the whole world realize that there are those who are informed and educated about the evils of clericalism, and there are those who are not. Larry is one of the uninformed, naturally, and that’s why when it comes to his harangues, I truly assert that we have drifted along for too long in a state of blissful denial and outright complacency. It’s time to make this world a better place in which to live. The sooner we do that the better because we must wake people out of their stupor and call on them to get us out of the hammerlock in which he is holding us. This call to action begins with you. You must be the first to stop Larry’s encroachments on our heritage. You must be the one to identify, challenge, defy, disrupt, and, finally, destroy the institutions that increase society’s cycle of hostility and violence. And you must inform your fellow man that this is not Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, where the state would be eager to exercise both subtlety and thoroughness in managing both the news and the entertainment that gets presented to us. Not yet, at least. But Larry contends that he never engages in loopy, otiose, or intolerant politics. What planet is he from? The planet Despicable? It’s questions like that that unmistakably get people thinking about how Larry keeps saying that he is a protective bulwark against the advancing tyranny of the most pushy toughies I’ve ever seen. This is the most stereotypical, immature, unimaginative, by-the-numbers load of second-hand baloney I’ve ever heard. The truth is that Larry just reported that every featherless biped, regardless of intelligence, personal achievement, moral character, sense of responsibility, or sanity, should be given the power to manufacture and compile daunting lists of imaginary transgressions committed against him. Do you think that that’s merely sloppy reporting on Larry’s part? I don’t. I, speaking as someone who is not a sordid crumbum, think that it’s a deliberate attempt to spread hatred, animosity, and divisiveness. To reiterate the main message of this letter, all of Larry Crnobrnja’s effusions are paralogistic.

          • TheDon Corleone

            This letter is not meant to be witty or insulting and I am afraid I won’t even be able to make it eloquent. But I will do the best I can to launch an all-out ideological attack against the forces of faddism. Before I begin, let me point out that the implications of this are obvious. To spell it out, though, if today we don’t scrap the entire constellation of intellectually challenged ideas that brought us to our present point, then tomorrow we’ll have to put up with Larry Crnobrnja promoting, fostering, and instituting lexiphanicism. I do not have the time in one sitting to go into the long answer as to why he and his lackeys are blossoms on the upas tree of hedonism. But the short answer is that we must show him that we are not powerless pedestrians on the asphalt of life. We must show Larry that we can ensure that we survive and emerge triumphant out of the coming chaos and destruction. Maybe then Larry will realize that he’s blind to the truth. So don’t feed me any phony baloney about how the purpose of life is self-gratification. That’s just not true.

            Larry must have some sort of problem with reading comprehension. That’s the only explanation I can come up with as to why Larry accuses me of admitting that bad things “just happen” (i.e., they’re not caused by Larry himself). What I actually said is that it seems that no one else is telling you that Larry’s jaded, baleful calumnies are chockablock with Machiavellianism. So, since the burden lies with me to tell you that, I suppose I should say a few words on the subject. To begin with, Larry’s indelicate epigrams are a locomotive of antinomianism. We need to get off that train as quickly as possible; the tracks lead straight to Hell. Personally, I would much rather be on a train in which the passengers recognize that ever since Larry decided to distract people from making a serious analysis of the situation, his consistent, unvarying line has been that those who disagree with him should be cast into the outer darkness, should be shunned, should starve.

            Larry plans to prevent me from sleeping soundly at night as soon as our backs are turned. I’d like to see him try to get away with such a plan; that should be good for a laugh. You see, most people have already observed that I allege that a lot of people may end up getting hurt before the final spasm of Larry’s rage is played out. My views, of course, are not the issue here. The issue is that he wants all of us to believe that the moon is made of green cheese. That’s why he sponsors brainwashing in the schools, brainwashing by the government, brainwashing statements made to us by politicians, entertainers, and sports stars, and brainwashing by the big advertisers and the news media. We must grant people the freedom to pursue any endeavor they deem fitting to their skills, talent, and interest. We must reinforce notions of positive self-esteem. And we must transcend traditional thinking. Please join me in incorporating these words into our living credo.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.WHILE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE KILLING OF 5 KITTENS,ALL YOU WANT TO DO IS ATTACKING LARRY FOR WHAT YOUR GAME AND SEE WHILL SAY?. PLEASE STOP THIS MADDNESS NOW DON

          • TheDon Corleone

            Debbie, please go crawl back onto your couch and watch tv. Your comments are not valid. You can not even spell.

            Thanks!

          • Debbie Zsigray

            ME CRAWL BACK ON MY COUCH AND WATCH TV????OH PLEASE IS THAT ALL YOU CAN SAY? DO YOU THINK THAT I WILL WHAT YOU TELL ME TO DO? DO YOU THINK I AM GOING TO WHAT YOU SAID? MY ANSWERS ARE HELL NO I WILL NOT, BESIDES I AM ON MY COUCH. I AM ON MY LAPTOP THAT IS MORE THEN I CAN SAY ABOUT YOU. I BET YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT SLD IS!!!!! YOU SAID THAT MY COMMENTTS ARE NOT VALID? SO WHAT AT LEAST I DO TRYED SPELL. WHAT IS YOUR REASON?

          • TheDon Corleone

            You need to go back to school. I hear GED is free.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            WHY DON’T COME OVER HER AND MAKE ME…..OH YES I ALMOST FORGOT YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHERE I LIVE.

          • TheDon Corleone

            Is this you?

          • Debbie Zsigray

            You wish that is me.

          • Hog Wild

            Debbie – Just walk away

            You’re arguing with a community college-dropout punk.

            What these sniveling little sh#ts don’t understand, is that they think they can be scary by describing all the nasty ways to kill creatures that are smaller and weaker than they are.

            They don’t fully realize is that there are people in this world that don’t like what they do – and are much scarier than they can possibly know.

            These people are patient and can spend time acquainting punks like this with all the ways they can be scary.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            I hear you Hog Wild, and you should red what Don about me, and you know Hog Wild I just do not care what he said about me, he can say what ever he wants to say but if he said that while everyone was here they will stop him dead in his tracks.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1762437349 Melissa Merrill Snyder

      House cats can carry toxoplasmosis also. Pregnant women are advised to use gloves when cleaning the litter box or have another family member take care of the litter boxes.

      Trap and euthanize has marginal success because once a cat is removed from a colony or an area, another one moves in to take it’s place. The only true way to decrease the numbers of community (because not all outside, free roam cats are feral; some are simply strays that are now living outside because an uncaring human dumped them) cats is through Trap/Neuter/Return programs. This allows the decrease of community through natural death. New cats rarely come into the colony after one dies especially if all the of the remaining cats have been altered.

      But, at what cost? this kittens killed were in a wood pile…mice love wood piles. Mice carry their own diseases, lice, and can be very destructive. Same for squirrels and chipmunks. My friend is dealing with chipmunks in her walls right now.

      As for birds: I have plenty of birds around my house. I also have 4 house cats that I take outside to play in our fenced in back yard. When play time is done, they come in. I’ve also seen my 13 year old front declawed cat with arthritis catch a bird who was obviously sick (because kitty doesn’t move that fast). And I’ve seen healthy birds escape the clutches of my 2 year old, clawed, Bengal mix. Cats help keep down the population of sick birds through hunting.

      I’ve been a huge proponent of TNR programs in the past. I still am, within reason. There are some studies that suggest significantly culling the community cat population would lead to an increase in the rodent population. It’s something that we need to consider.

      But, taking the community cat issue out of the mix, one fact remains. A gun was discharged within city limits, near where families and children were. And THAT is the biggest issue with the death of FIVE innocent kittens being a very close second.

      • sueishere

        Ahh a sane person.

    • Bob Sweatt

      Stay strong Frank. Just because you don’t agree with certain people points of view. They will sit on here calling your names and try to discredit you. It’s sad that people care more about a cat then they do about a human live. Sad indeed.

      • Larry Crnobrnja

        Suggesting people opposed to killing cats care more about them than human life is a silly straw man argument. I don’t recall seeing anyone make that statement.

        But if it came down to saving my cats or you, you’re probably out of luck.

        • Bob Sweatt

          And sorry Larry. You lost all credibility when you asked for Franks real name and address so you could come up and “MEET” him. Why so you can hurt him because he doesn’t believe in what you believe.

          You know that’s pretty the same approach a terrorist takes. What are you part of a Cat Terrorist group??

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            When did I ever say I would “come up and “MEET” him”? I clearly asked him to share his real name so his neighbors would know what kind of guy he is.

            When you have a person advocating poisoning, running over with a car and burning any animal, that person’s neighbors and local authorities need to know.

          • Bob Sweatt

            Oh sure you want it so his neighbor’s can know who he is. SURE!!!! that’s the reason. WINK WINK

            And you are standing with people who are talking about hurting people. So who is the more screwed up here??

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            I am standing up AGAINST people who abuse animals.

          • Bob Sweatt

            Right you are, but in that group of people. There a certain few who have said the humane officer should be shot in front of his children. But hey if you want to involved with that group. People who advocate killing a man. You go right ahead.

            You would know all that if you would read every post. Not just the ones you comment on.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            MY posts have been very clear and I’ve never suggested shooting anyone. Your arguments are silly and quite juvenile.

          • Bob Sweatt

            Hey dipshit. Did I say you did. No I said the group you are standing with has said they advocate killing the officer in front of his kids.

            Read the whole comment not what you just want to see.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            Bob, for your 411,they are not saying to kill him in front of his kids, they are calling for him to be fired from his job and I agree with they.

          • Bob Sweatt

            Duh. WHAT I SAID IS if you would read what i write with some type of open mind.

            I said PEOPLE on here are advocating that the officer be shot in front of his kids. NOT and again NOT that he killed the cats in front of ANYONE. GOOD GOD

          • sueishere

            Bob these are your exact words, “No I said the group you are standing with has said they advocate killing the officer in front of his kids.” Please tell me which group has said this because I definitely don’t want to stand with them. Thank you. Sue Lawson

          • Bob Sweatt

            Group of people Susie. Not a group.

            There are a select few who are on the side of the kittens who said that.

          • sueishere

            Ok Bob. But just to let you know, cats aren’t evil. Millions of people wouldn’t own them if they were. I have cats and most of them run whenever someone comes over, they’re shy. Well except for CryBaby who thinks EVERYONE should pet him. They are very sweet. Anyway have a good day and I won’t bother you anymore.

          • Pam Whiteside

            even the people who comment here that are too cowardly to use their real names have a user name. Which user name said this?

          • Pam Whiteside

            who said that

          • Bob Sweatt

            And did I say your comments weren’t clear. My god man. Stop reading what you want to read and read the whole comment.

          • TheDon Corleone

            I am writing this letter because I recently heard some troubling news. Apparently, a large number of people actually believe Larry Crnobrnja’s claim that he’s an irreplaceable shaman who can cure the sick, divine the hidden, and control events. For the sake of review, he has a talent for inventing fantasy worlds in which he knows 100% of everything 100% of the time. Then again, just because Larry is a prolific fantasist doesn’t mean that we can stop pharisaism merely by permitting government officials entrée into private homes to search for odious beguilers. He is always prating about how character development is not a matter of “strength through adversity” but rather, “entitlement through victimization”. (He used to say that it’s perfectly safe to drink and drive, but the evidence is too contrary so he’s given up on that score.)

            Let’s just ignore Larry and see what he does. Was he just trying to be cute when he said that introducing, cultivating, and encouraging moral rot is essential for the safety and welfare of the public? I sure hope so because I have a dream, a mission, a set path that I would like to travel down. Specifically, my goal is to challenge rather than accommodate the mainstream’s presuppositions. Of course, I want you to know that he has more understanding of beer and milk regulations than of farsighted plans for the future. Knowing, as they say, is half the battle. What remains is to expose the connections between the stupid problems that face us and the key issues of voyeurism and feudalism.

            It’s good that you’re reading this letter. It’s good that you’re listening to what I’m saying. But reading and listening aren’t enough. You must also be willing to help me find the inner strength to encourage the ethos of exchange value over use value. To say otherwise would be vindictive. If Larry would, just once, demonstrate real and genuine concern for others, he might begin to realize that he used to complain about being persecuted. Now Larry is our primary persecutor. This reversal of roles reminds me that anyone who has spent much time wading through the pious, obscurantist, jargon-filled cant that now passes for “advanced” thought in the humanities already knows that I’m not going to respond to his reportages beyond saying that his hagiographic adoration of teetotalism is honestly sickening. What may be news, however, is that Larry likes to talk about how his publicity stunts won’t be used for political retribution. The words sound pretty until you read between the lines and see that Larry is secretly saying that he intends to advertise “magical” diets and bogus weight-loss pills. In closing, Larry Crnobrnja has for so long been nursing the wrongs he imagines the world had done him that he’s determined to exact revenge by sapping people’s moral stamina.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            ONCE AGAIN A BIG FAT ( F ) FOR YOU DON. YOU LOVE TO USE BIG WORDS DO YOU. OK HERE IS THE THING, WHAT I AM READING WHAT YOU WROTE,LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT YOU AS STUPIT AS CAN BE. I NEVER SEEN SO MANY BIG WORDS BUT ONLY AT MY DOCTORS THAT IS WHERE I SEE BIG WORDS.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            Larry, I am with you, I am against Animal abuse. We need to take people who like to abuse animals, and do the same
            thing to them and see how they feel to be abuse like.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            I don’t advocate mistreatment of any animals, including humans. But we can’t allow deeds like this to go unpunished.

          • Bob Sweatt

            Yes he will be punished for discharging his weapon. But as for the animal abuse thing. Good luck getting him fired for doing his job.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            Larry, I agree with you, But why said that we need to show people who love to mistreatment of any animals the way they do. I also with you that is not the answer treat people the way they mistreatment the way they do…..I AWAYS SAID WHAT GO AROUND COMES AROUND.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            Bob , you are the one screwed up here.

          • Pam Whiteside

            Don’t feel bad larry, anyone who disproves his remarks with a valid argument is discredited to him. Stop using his own words to show how invalid his arguments are and he could respect you.

          • TheDon Corleone

            Pam shut that hole in your face.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            DON YOU NEED TO STOP WRTING AND START UNDERSTANDING WHY WE AS THE PEOPLE ARE ANGERY ABOUT WHAT THIS OFFICER DID TO THOSE 5 KITTENS, I AM SURE IF HE WAS LIVING IN TX,CAL,AZ,NY,AND FL HE WILL BE IN JAIL FOR KILLING 5 KITTEN AND THEN TO PRISON WHERE THERE ARE PRISONERS WHO WILL KILL HIM LIKE HE KILL THOSE 5 KTTENS.

          • TheDon Corleone

            Larry is a complete moron. He wears a tinfoil hat.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            YOU KNOW SOMETHING? YOU SOUNDS LIKE ONE MY EX-HUSBAND’S FAMILY THINK ING THEY KNOW PEOPLE AND DO NOT CARE, AND THEY ARE JUST YOU LOVE TO CALL SOMEONE ELSE NAMES .
            IF ANYONE IS A MORON IT IS YOU.

        • Debbie Zsigray

          AMAN TO THAT LARRY

          • Bob Sweatt

            BLAH BLAH BLAH. Sorry Debbie I don’t listen to people who start off being insulting me. It’s childish to start your argument that why.

            Now sit down, shut up and let the grown-ups talk.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            YOU ACT LIKE A CHILD WANTING TO ARGUMENT THE WAY YOU DID,SO YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE.Now sit down, shut up and let the grown-ups talk. YOU DO NOT ACT LIKE A GROWN-UP. AND FOR YOUR 411 I BEEN ON THE EARTH FOR 54 YEARS. WHAT IS YEARS YOUR AGE? WHAT 6 YEARS OLD?

          • Bob Sweatt

            No but I have a 6 yo. And every time he calls someone stupid or a JERK (proper spelling) I say the same thing to him.

            And maturity and wisdom does not come with age. Or for the matter neither does respect. And you lady do not have any of those, as far as I can tell.

            As for me not acting like an adult. When people I am arguing with start to call me name. I feel the need to level the bar (so to speak) and bring myself down to their level.

            You seem to have no idea what is going on here. Either that or you are reading only what you want to read. Because you and Larry are doing exactly that, reading what you want to read.

            If you would go back and read everything on here that I posted. You would realize that other have attacked me and some other people. Solely do to the fact that we don’t agree with your warped since of values.

          • Pam Whiteside

            pot calling the kettle black, much. go back and read your own posts

          • Debbie Zsigray

            YOU SAID THAT I AM NOT MATURE,THAT I DO NOT HAVE WISDOM AND THAT I DO NOT HAVE RESPECT, MEN YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG AND YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW ME, I HAVE MORE MATURITY,WISDOM IN MY PINKY THEN YOU HAVE IN YOUR WHOLE BODY,AND YOU ALSO SAID I DO NOT HAVE RESPECT,WHY DID YOU SAY THAT IS IT BECAUSE I DO NOT ANY RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO KILL KITTENS,THOSE WHO DO NOT RESPECT ANIMALS HAS A RIGHT TO LIVE NO MATTER IF THEY ARE WILD OR NOT? I HAVE READ EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY WROTE INCLUDING YOUR’S , THEDON CORLEONE AND FEW MORE.
            Solely do to the fact that YOU don’t agree with MY warped since of values. WHAT IN THE HELL DO YOU MEAN BY MY WARPED SINCE OF VALUES? WHO IS WE?I JUST ONLY YOU.I DO NOT CARE WHO IS ATTECKING WHO. HERE IS WHAT I AM GOING TO DO,WHEN I GET BACK FROM WATER THERAPY I AM GETTING THE PHONE AND MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS,AND I KNOW ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I AM CALLING,WHO YOU MAY ASK WELL ALL I HAVE TO SAY ME TO KNOW AND YOU TO FINE OUT.YOU WILL KNOW WHO I CALL.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            NOW DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY ABOUT ME?

          • TheDon Corleone

            Is your caps lock stuck? Or are you just a human reject?

          • Debbie Zsigray

            I GOT NEWS FOR YOU DON, MY CAPS LOCK I NOT STUCK, I LOCKED IT FOR A REASON. I AM NOT A HUMAN REJECT EITHER.SO SHUT THE HELL UP. YOU ARE A HUMAN REJECT FROM HELL. ARE YOU ANGERY AT ME BECAUSE I AM NOT ON YALL SIDE OR THAT I AM ON THE SIDE THE PEOPLE WHO IS ANGERY ABOUT THIS MAN KILLED 5 KITTENS? DON YOU AND BOB DO THINK AT I CAN NOT SPEAK OUT ABOUT THIS, DO YOU? OK THEN, HERE IS WHAT I HAVE SAY OH WELL GET OVER IT,AND I GOT MORE NEWS FOR YOU, I WILL NEVER LISTEN YOU TWO IDIOTS. I WILL SPEAK WHAT IS ON MY MIND AND THERE IS NOT A THING YOU TWO CAN DO ABOUT IT……DO YOU TWO IDIOTS GOT ANYTHING ESE TO SAY TO ME?

          • Debbie Zsigray

            DON, I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU. MY CAP LOCK IS NOT STUCK, I LOCKED IT DOWN FOR A REASON. AND I AM NOT A HUMAN REJECT,YOU A$$HOLE. YOU ARE A HUMAN REJECK FORM HELL,,,,,,I LOCKED MY CAP LOCK DOWN FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE BLINDED FROM THE TRUTH AND CAN NOT OR WILL NOT SEE TWO FEET IN FRONT OF THEM.

          • TheDon Corleone

            Listen here you skank, nobody cares what you think.

            Shut your face.

            Thanks!

          • Debbie Zsigray

            I AM A SKANK?????NOW LISTEN HERE YOU ARE THE SKANK AND YOU NEED TO SHUT YOUR FACE. AND LIKE I TOLD BOB THAT I WILL NOT SHUT UP.IF YOU MAN ENOUGH THEN COME AND MAKE ME SHUT UP……YES YOU DO NOT WHERE I LIVE…I AM NOT WORRY………..WHAT TYHE MATTER DON?Y YOU CAN NOT STAND THE TRUTH ABOUT YOURSELF? AND WHAT I AM READING THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DOES CARE WHAT THINK,BUT DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK AND SAY…..

          • TheDon Corleone

            How can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you are not able to spell, something we all learned to do in the first grade?

          • Debbie Zsigray

            SO F@#$&%! WHAT IF DO NOT SPELL RIGHT,YOU THINK WHAT YOU WANT THINK BUT I KNOW THAT I TRYED AND IS MORE YOU CAN DO. YOU SEE NOBODY IS NOT TAKING YOU SERIOUSLY BECAUSE YOU LOVE TO ATTACK OTHERS. I BET YOU EVEN DO NOT KNOW WHAT SLD IS OR SED IS,AND IF YOU KNEW SLD AND SED STAND FOR THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT SLD IS A DISABILITY AND SOME BABY ARE BURN WITH IT.

          • sueishere

            No, no Debbie, call Bob this because he used it…”Hey dipshit.”

          • DEAN

            YOU’RE AN IDIOT!! And I don’t care if you respond to me. You will still be an idiot.

          • Bob Sweatt

            BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH… Just another person who can’t get their point across with an insult. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

          • Michele

            No reason to argue with this piece of work. His profile picture says it all. Although I would disagree with the NOT evil part. The rest sounds pretty accurate.

          • Bob Sweatt

            BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

          • Bob Sweatt

            And I will just add you to the list of immature people who just want to troll on here and insult people.

            What is Larry getting all of his friend on here to back him up??

            And yes I am evil. Because I advocate the killing of all animals. Not just the pretty ones. If they need to be killed. That is. I am not completely heartless.

          • Candace Wolfe

            And who decides if they need to be killed? You??? You are evil and and a poor example to the human race!

          • Bob Sweatt

            Excuse me??? How am I a poor example of the human race? When I care more about the HUMAN RACE then I do about some little kitten.

            You’re a moron. Learn exactly how to get your point across. before you come on here and embarrass yourself anf the human race.

          • Candace Wolfe

            You are the moron. Your lack of compassion is proof positive. Since I only surround myself with intelligent people, I no longer need to continue this conversation with you. You and Mr. Frank must be related…stupidity breeds stupidity!

          • Pam Whiteside

            BLAHBLAHBLAH, anyone showing how invalid and off topic your posts are is insulting you. If you hold yourself to the same standard as you hold larry, that he stands with those that want to shoot Accorti, then you stand with those who want to poison, burn, torture, run over and generally be cruel to cats. Is that were YOU stand Bob?

          • Debbie Zsigray

            Alright Pam that is telling him off.

      • sueishere

        You’re wrong, I care about people and animals….

      • Pam Whiteside

        again making assumptions that anyone protesting a public servant killing non threatening animals weighing less than 2 lbs must not care about human lives. In what way was a human life threatened? As I said before your own words discredit you and your failure to make a point relevant to this event shows a lot more. Frank is a cruel person who wants to torture animals and you are defending him. SAD

    • Zen Grouch

      Frank…

      Informative post!

      But you did leave out one sure fire method of cutting down on the feral cat population, which is to arm your children with high velocity pellet guns when they hit the ripe old age of 7 or 8. Then tell ‘em to NOT aim for the head.

      • Debbie Zsigray

        YEA TEAHING YOUR CHILDREN HOW TO BE CRUEL TO ANIMALS NOW THAT IS A COLD HEARTED YOU ARE AS STUPIT AS BOB AND DON AND FEW OF YOUR BUDDIES. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO GIVE CHILDREN GUNS THAT IS INCLUDING PELLET GUNS AND BB GUNS.

        • Zen Grouch

          …all of a sudden I am feeling kinda “cruel” for abusing dumb animals.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            YOU ARE A DUMB ANIMAL. IF YOU STILL THINK TO USE IT ON GIVING YOUNG CHILDREN GUNS TO KILL ANIMALS ,OK THEN IF YOU GIVE CHILDREN GUNS TO KILL ANIMALS THEN WHAT IS NEXT ZEN?PEOPLE IS NEXT. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? IF I AM READING WHAT YOU WROTE YOU feeling kinda “cruel” for abusing dumb animals. ARE YOU ABUSING ANIMALS? AND IF YOU ARE YOU NEED TO STOP BEFORE SOMEONE IN YOUR AREA CALL THE POLICE ON YOU.

          • Zen Grouch

            OK you win, I’ll cut out my cruel & evil ways…

            …now PLEASE stop yelling at me.

    • sueishere

      I pray you don’t suffer like you want them to suffer. Wow, just wow.

    • joseph

      what does any of that got to do with killing kittens with a gun? the man needs to be fired and brought up on charges.. he didn’t do his job which is to respond and remove animals to be checked and adopted out or put down if needed…

      • Debbie Zsigray

        Joseph , I agree with you that the man needs to be fired and brought up on charges.. he didn’t do his job which is to respond and remove animals to be checked and adopted out or put down if needed…

    • TheDon Corleone
    • Pam Whiteside

      What a coward you are, show your real name. The facts you quote are not true. toxoplasmosis is only caught by ingesting feces so if people are careful and was their hands there is no issue. Also many animals carry toxoplasmosis, including swine. I love birds but they also carry many diseases. It is obvious you are just a cat hater and a cruel person. Maybe you just don’t want to show your name because you are on the sexual predator list or just featured on to catch a predator. You are just a sick person that is cruel, which makes one question the validity of your concern for birds or anything else.

    • Pam Whiteside

      many animals carry toxoplasmosis, BIRDS, cattle, goats, sheep, poultry and cats. The false study released by the so called nature communications has been proven to be unsubstantiated. just another bunch of cat haters making up lies. Anyone using common sanitary practices will avoid contracting toxoplasmosis. Frank is just one more callous person wanting to be cruel to something he doesn’t like. He is too much a coward to use his real name and own his lack of compassion, his need to be cruel to something he doesn’t understand, and his sad lack of a soul. Eagles and owls kill other birds. Should we kill them? Show your name and own the horrible person you are.

  • Larry Crnobrnja

    Humane Officer Accorti and Police Chief Freeman deserve new titles; “Private Citizens”.

    • Bob Sweatt

      Yeah isn’t going to happen. Sorry for your luck.

      • Debbie Zsigray

        Oh HELL YES it happen once the Gov of Ohio gets in on this, you will know then it will happen. YOU ARE BIG JURK AND A PUNK ALSO.

        • Bob Sweatt

          It’s funny. but when I read your comments. all I hear is my head it the noise all the adult make in the Peanuts cartoons.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            AWAW VERY FUNNY,YOU MUST BE TALKING ABOUT YOURSELF Bob.

          • Pam Whiteside

            That is because you block anything that makes you look at yourself, Debbie is spot-on!

        • Bob Sweatt

          Oh you are sadly mistaken. There is no way this will get to the state level. Quit kidding yourself.

          The officer will probably be fine for discharging his weapon inside the city limits. But nothing more will be done.

          But ti’s good to know you wish for this man to lose his job. When he was DOING his job.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            HE DID NOT HAVE TO KILL 5 BABY KITTENS.

          • DEAN

            TOUCHE…I hope your comment finally shut that idiot up. LOL

          • Bob Sweatt

            Please instead of coming on here and calling me an IDIOT. Explain why you think that. And please try to do it without an insult, if you can.

            Because if you don’t you are just a troll. And troll’s opinions don’t matter to me

          • Debbie Zsigray

            Because you are in a big word ( IDIOT) JUST LIKE DON.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            Hi Dean, Thank You and if my comment do not finally shut that idiot up, I know one person who wil.
            l

          • Bob Sweatt

            OK then what should he have done?? Taken them to a shelter were they would have probably be put down. Either why they would still be DEAD.

            AGAIN it’s not what he KILLED for god sakes. It’s down to how and where he did it.

            READ WHAT I WROTE NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO READ.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            Bob, I read the story, you think I was piss about what happen? YES I was piss about what that officer did.And I still am.and I do read what everyone wrote and I do not read what I want to read, I also read what the story to. but like I said is that the officer did not have to kill them.But I have Question or two for you and you have to think about these Question(s) and I hope that you can answer. Do you rather want to be over run by
            1000′s of rats and mouse or do you rather want to stray cats take care of them?

          • Debbie Zsigray

            I HAVE READ WHAT YOU SAID,BUT LIKE I HAVE SAID,,HE DID NT HAVE TO KILL 5 BABY KITTEN..AND AS THE SHELTERS,THEY HAVE ANIMAL BEHAVERS WHO TEST THEM AND IF THEY ARE FIT TO GO INTO LOVING HOMES AND PEOPLE WHO WILL LOVE THEM AND PROTACT THEM FROM PEOPLE LIKE THIS MAN WHO DID THE KILLING AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU,BOB,ZEN AND FEW MORE DUM A$$ GROUP OF CAT HATERS.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            Ok then Bob do you think this There is no way this get to the state level? Just watch and see. And then you will see that something will be done about it. AND WHO IS KIDDING THEIRSELF I AM NOT KIDDING EITHER.

      • Bob Sweatt

        It’s like you all brought a knife to a gun fight.

        none of you seem to be able to comment without throwing an insult into it. That’s even sadder then 5 kitten being killed.

        • Pam Whiteside

          again, pot calling the kettle black. People who care about cruelty care about cruelty to everything. Do you read your own posts?

        • Law

          I think you were the only one present who felt the need to refer to his own backside.

    • Pam Whiteside

      Larry, you are a who I want to be when I grow up, thanks for your balanced and onspot commentary

  • Don Grantzki

    I thought they only allowed Barney Accorti to carry one bullet. How can he kill five ferocious feral cats with one shot?

    • hottamomma

      hes that good

      • Debbie Zsigray

        NO HE IS NOT THAT GOOD.

  • Steve L

    This is not a case of should the kittens or any other disease carrying animals be put down- that is another issue entirely. The case is how this situation was handled. It is a common sense issue: do I collect the kittens and then euthanize them outside public view, or do I pull out a gun and ‘euthanize’ them outside a private residence. If you believe you would have done the latter you lack common sense and should be reprimanded. I am disgusted with the council for not pressing harder to get Accorti removed. As an ex-resident I am appalled.

    • Bob Sweatt

      I agree with you Steve. But the officer did his job. How he did it is up for debate. he show no regard for public safety. For that he should be fined. but being fired is extreme.

      if everyone would just clam down. they would see that not matter what happened. We would still have dead kittens. Because from what I saw in a comment below. Not even the APL would have been able to take them. The kitten probably would have been euthanized at a shelter.

      • Debbie Zsigray

        THE REASON WHY APL WILL NOT TAKE ALL 5 KITTENS IS THEY WANTING $ 20.00 PER EACH KITTEN BEFORE THEY WILL TAKE THEM IN,I SHOULD KNOW WHY THAT APL WILL NOT TAKE ALL 5 KITTENS IN IS THEY WANTING $20.00 AND THEY DO NOT GET THE MONEY,THEY SOL.I USE TO WORK THERE AND I SEEN IT FIRST HAND WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY DO IT.AND APL IS A NO KILL SHELTER TO.

  • Larry Crnobrnja

    I’m “from” Lorain, Ohio. I live in South Carolina. And I don’t hunt, never had the desire.

    And regarding my children; you sure come up with more than your share of red herrings.

  • http://www.facebook.com/beckystoll.mihalak Becky Stoll Mihalak

    This man acted without disregard for the safety of the whole neighborhood and he killed kittens without even giving them half a chance. No vets were called, no shelters were called… nothing. The whole thing was extreme! Its sad all around.

    • Debbie Zsigray

      I AGREE WITH YOU Becky. THAT IS SO SAD FOR ME TO WRAP MY MIND ON WHAT THIS MAN DID. And you are right about him,This man acted without disregard for the safety of the whole neighborhood and he killed kittens without even giving them half a chance. No vets were called, no shelters were called… nothing. The whole thing was extreme! Its sad all around.

      • http://www.facebook.com/beckystoll.mihalak Becky Stoll Mihalak

        It is horrible Debbie and I am ashamed to call North Ridgville my home right now – 110% ashamed…..I wouldnt feel the same way if our Chief ~ the leadership of the whole police department ~ the face in which other communites and people see our city ~ would have stood against this, I would have felt better. I understand the whole brotherhood code, I really do, but this was way beyond what he should have stood his ground for. They both should be ashamed of themselves.

        • Debbie Zsigray

          I would to if I was living there, I got to thinking it will be nice to live in North Ridgeville , I am glad that I did not because I to will be ashamed to call North Ridgeville my home right now and I will want to move from there.

  • Debbie Zsigray

    You said the truth Shelley and I agree with you.

  • Bonnie Pickett

    When I moved last fall, a tenant next door had moved out leaving about 5 cats to fend for themselves and I called APL & Animal Control and both said they wouldn’t come after them. I told them the cats were starving and meowing all of the time and they said quit feeding them and they will leave. I moved to Florida for the winter and came back to 2 starving cats coming into my garage to get into my garbage. (I have to keep my door shut). I am currently feeding them scraps and they are impossible to catch because they are so wild. Would it be more humane to shoot them or just let them starve to death?? Evidently those that could help aren’t concerned for the lives of these cats. I presently have no animals of my own but hate to see these cats starving.

    • Law

      CARE Feline TNR is in Winter Park. They help feral and abandoned cats. If they can’t help you, they will refer to you to a group who can.

      http://carefelinetnr.org/

  • Bob Sweatt

    One more thing for all of you.

    if you are on here then you must have seen the story about the minister getting 10 years for raping kids.

    Now that is only a day after the hundreds of comments the kitten story from yesterday got. But not a one of you have commented on that story. There is only two comments on that story. That’s a damn shame.

    You all need to be ashamed of yourself for caring more about what happens to a cat then then what happen to a child.

    As far as I am concerned. ALL of you animal loving morons can kiss my white irish backside.

    • Zen Grouch

      **ALL of you animal loving morons can kiss my white irish backside.**

      I was with ya’ there Bob… right up until you posted the above.

      I hate the Irish gingers almost as much as I hate defenseless kittens, and that SOB Morgan Freeman.

      • Bob Sweatt

        LOL. I assume you are joking. Because who can hate on Morgan Freeman. LOL

        • Zen Grouch

          Yeah, I realize my hatred of Morgan Freeman is irrational…
          …but he kinda looks Irish.

    • ken

      that’s normal some ministers always rape kids. that’s why some of them are a$$holes like you bob. the problem is the kittens were shot in front of children

    • Debbie Zsigray

      Bob, I did not read that about the minister getting 10 years for raping kids, you see I do not get the newspager and I do not watch the news either, but if I want to know what is going on around me I will go online and read it. I would not even know about this if I did not go to my Doctor on Wed morning, I have heard it from lady who was there and she was talking about it

    • Law

      “ALL of you animal loving morons can kiss my white irish backside.”

      I think that particular maneuver is reserved for people who want to have a say in the priorities of strangers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/beckystoll.mihalak Becky Stoll Mihalak

    I will agree wholeheartedly with that as well. I am sure if he would have spent a few minutes trying to find homes for these kittens he would have. But not one ouce of effort was expended by this homeowner or the “humane officer” for these poor little creatures. I think if he would have posted on any social media “2 hours for someone to pick up these kittens or they will be shot” for sure someone would have stepped forward. there is not one thing that he did correctly – very irresponsible for the communities safety. I wonder where the mother cat is – I would take her and have her spayed on my dime.

  • Danelle of Ridgeville

    Oh Bob, u obviously work 4 the city of Ridgeville or u know deputy humane officer (I use that word lightly) Accorti or u urself r him due 2 ur stance of argument w/any and all opinions that anyone has here. We fight a DAILY battle due 2 the lax laws in Ohio 2 speak 4 the ones who have no voice and in that process we try 2 educate the voices of the future 2 show them how we TRY 2 save lives, again referring 2 the lack of spay/neuter laws in Ohio. This woman called the office looking 4 help and in the process rec’d an agent representing the city 2 help with her situation but instead she rec’d a rouge deputy who OBVIOUSLY has jiz own issues, took a weapon out in a development in daylight no less and showed the children/neighbors and the city how we handle these problems! Its very disheartened that there r more people out there like u who have voices to keep knocking down the steps we build 2 make change..I can only hope that u PLEASE set the bar higher in teaching ur children better standards than what is “acceptable” 2 u…

  • scooter

    Outsider adding input. Did anyone read the statement about fleas in the house. I’m an animal owner and lover. When fleas are mentioned it threw up a red flag. Either the kids are near the wood pile playing or a cat has been in the house. Until all the facts come available it is hard to say if the cat that had the kittens belonged to the family or not. It is possible that the mom cat was a family pet of someone in the neighborhood and had kittens. Either way, the shooting of kittens in town was wrong. I have trapped farel kittens before and usually end up with two in the trap. This could have easily been done (depending on manpower) and removed from city limits for the chore. I don’t like what happened but sometimes it has to be done. I have had 2 farel cats attack me on my own front porch while trying to help them. Lucky for me they didn’t have rabies. The officer should be reprimanded for doing it in town.

  • scooter

    my other question is: why were the cops called in the first place? on my block we help each other. I have loaned my animal trap to neighbors and visa-versa. We help each other ,and why didn’t anyone help this woman and kids with the big ferocious kittens? were they too big for the traps, were their teeth too big? Kittens are ruled by their bellies, set out soft food in a trap and they will be there in the morning. As for the birds: they can carry disease’s also. Humans can’t police the entire ecosystem, the earth takes care of itself.

    • TheDon Corleone

      We should help each other get rid of filthy annoying animals, by whatever means necessary.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000088269868 David C Johnson

    Wow!!!,Thats all I can say,I think some people are missing the point of what happened-I for one do believe in euthanizing of fural cats ,but only in a correct manner,it is quite clear that regardless of this officers past accomplishments in law enforcement,he is not cut out for this job-regardless of the police chiefs stance on this-the humane officer, shooting 5 little kittens in someones yard in front of a bunch of kids is dead wrong on all counts.I do not know much about being a humane officer but i would have had enough common sense to gather the kittens and remove them from the area and take them to the pound/shelter

    • Debbie Zsigray

      Way to go David you said the truth, That what we are trying across to Don, Bob, Zen and those who think that we need to get rid of filthy annoying animals, by whatever means necessary.

  • SweetScarlet

    Just for the record, Roseann Johnson is AWESOME. Way to go, Ms. Johnson! Dennis Boose is another one who has always been for the people. He helped us out before on another issue and was one of the nicest, most professional people ever. Here’s hoping that these two vouch for the citizens on this one!

  • Laura W

    Richard Jaenke, the city’s 3rd Ward Republican councilman—keep this man’s comments in mind at your next election. He , the Humane Officer Barry Accorti and the police chief are of like minds it appears. Their actions/responses are just as dangerous as Barry Accorti’s. Well gentlemen, the world is watching…..and in case you didn’t get my email here it is—-

    this
    is a copy of a letter I have sent to the Mayor and City council members—-North
    Ridgeville is warm and neighborly…these are your words yet after hearing,
    seeing and reading about the recent actions of your so called Humane officer I
    find this hard to believe. To fire a gun in a residential neighborhood is bad
    enough but to murder defenseless kittens in front of children is inexcusable.
    What a way to educate your children on the morals and humanity of man. Don’t be
    surprised if the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder you have endeared on each child
    that has witnessed and / or heard of this cowardly action comes back to haunt
    you one day. In a society already inundated with gun violence, you have single
    handedly displayed first-hand how it is done and taught those children all
    about it. Shame on you all….