November 24, 2014


C-T straw poll respondents favor punishment for officer who shot kittens

NORTH RIDGEVILLE — By an overwhelming 4-to-1 margin, people responding to an unscientific Chronicle-Telegram poll asking whether North Ridgeville Humane Officer Barry Accorti should be disciplined for shooting five feral kittens to death said he should face disciplinary measures or be fired.

Of the approximately 577 readers who answered the Chronicle poll in print or at the newspaper’s website, 442 said Accorti should be dismissed or face other action for killing the kittens last week.

Another 135 supported the humane officer’s actions, which have sparked a torrent of opinion, mostly negative, via hundreds of emails from across the country and other nations.

Robert J. McCarrick, of Grafton, was among those who criticized Police Chief Michael Freeman for his open support of Accorti, who was quickly exonerated of any wrongdoing in the June 10 incident.

“Remove him,” McCarrick said. “A chief who supports this action is a problem.”

Some, like one anonymous North Ridgeville resident, used the straw poll to vent their feelings against Accorti. “Accorti was always a bully, known to push people around who could defend themselves the least.”

Among those opposed to Accorti’s shooting of the kittens was Alice Layne, of Grafton, who said “terrible judgment in front of children. Seeing this, why would a child trust a policeman?”

The fiery emotions and anger ignited by the shootings colored many comments such as this: “He should be rewarded. The only good cat is a dead cat.”

“Give him a raise for all the flak he’s taken from the bleeding hearts,” wrote another. “Ask them how they would have handled those filthy cats.”

Some who backed Accorti tinged their strong remarks with humor.

“He should be awarded a medal,” said one. “Cats are like Democrats. There’s way too many.”

“The only good thing (about feral cats) is that coyotes think they are delicious,” said Kenneth E. Phillips, of Wakeman.

About 68 online respondents including Patti Lafollette-Stoker, supported the humane officer.

“It has nothing to do with being heartless,” Lafollette-Stoker said. “The homeowner did not want to pack them up and drop them at a vet so she called for help. This officer was left with one choice and that was to kill them.”

“The fact that they were put down in a backyard is the only thing wrong with this story,” Jeffrey Hansen said.

“The mother wanted the situation resolved and when it was, she didn’t like the resolution,” wrote another.

Many expressed support for trap-neuter-release programs as viable alternatives to killing feral or stray animals.

“It is a compassionate and effective long-term solution,” said one. “No bullets or sick sense of humor required.”

This view was countered by responses such as: “There will never be enough money to shelter all stray cats, and never enough people willing to adopt. As long as there is no torture involved, shooting is humane.”

“I would like to see this much outrage and compassion for humans,” said Rod Horn.

Still others turned their anger on protesters who have held rallies calling for Accorti’s dismissal.

“They need to get a life,” wrote one.

“Those people up in arms never dealt with a feral cat,” Margaret Wilson, of LaGrange, said. “It’s like a tiger caught by the tail.”

A response was offered by John Westfall, who supported disciplinary steps against Accorti while at the same time pointing out his actions may well have been sanctioned by existing policies.

“If policy okays it, unfortunately it clears the officer of any wrongdoing. Seems the police department should have a much better means to euthanize nuisance or dangerous animals,” Westfall said.

According to the department’s policy for handling stray, injured or lost animals, police and humane officers are to proceed “in a humane manner.”

“If the animal is vicious and cannot be captured without injury to the responding unit (officer), or presents a danger to the public, or is suffering from a serious sickness or injury, the officer may use a weapon to destroy the animal,” the policy states.

The bad light in which the entire situation has cast the city was on the mind of one respondent. “Let this stop. The whole country is laughing at us for our carrying on.”

Others took issue with news coverage of the kitten shootings.

“Find some real news,” said one.

“Your coverage was biased and outrageous.” Elyria’s Eileen Weber said. “Shame on you.”

Contact Steve Fogarty at 329-7146 or

  • hottamomma

    did it say his actions might have been sanctioned by existing POLICIES!. so he did follow policy? well he shouldnt be fired and the people complaining should try and get policy changed instead of getting him fired for doing his job.

    • eslaporte

      He should be fired just for his conduct. Police are trained to use deadly force against humans where the humans are an imminent threat to the lives of other humans!
      What threat do kittens pose to the public or anyone else that they had to be shot? And around children?

      Why not call a local animal rescue or work to get the kittens homes. Shooting them was outrageous and this cop is a threat to public safety!

      • heterodox

        Feral cats spread parasites and disease, and kill many indigenous birds. The birds belong there, naturally. The cats do not.

  • Larry Crnobrnja

    “If the animal is vicious and cannot be captured without injury to the
    responding unit (officer), or presents a danger to the public, or is
    suffering from a serious sickness or injury, the officer may use a
    weapon to destroy the animal,” the policy states.

    1) Live catch traps are simple to use and extremely effective. And there is no risk of injury to animals, human or feline.

    2) Unless you’re concerned about being killed by cuteness, there is no danger to the public.

    3) I have not read any account of this story where anyone claimed the kittens were sick or injured.

    So with that being said, how does anyone defend a position that he followed policy?

  • Becky Stoll Mihalak

    I am pretty sure that policy does not dictate that he use his fire arm for the purpose of shooting kitties……in a neighborhood……..full of children.

  • Tamra Tury

    How about you take another poll? Lets ask your readers if they are tired of hearing about this story… I know I am!

  • Bob Sweatt

    We on this crap again.

    Is this story ever going to be like those kittens and die????

  • Bob Sweatt

    You know. No matter what happens. All these radical animal lovers won’t be happy until this officer loses his job. Which isn’t going to happen.

    Now all you are doing nothing more then BULLYING to get what you want. The officer should be fined and places on leave without paid. End of story.

  • Woodsman001

    Ooops, one small problem with your “poll”. Cat-lickers post those things on their web-sites, blogs, email-chains, etc., then within 1 hour of the news over 50,000 of them from all over the world will descend on any site that is about some controversial cat issue, start up at least 3 international petitions, and then fire off addresses, phone numbers, and names of everyone involved so they can then net-bully everyone into submission.

    You clearly don’t know how these demented cat-licking psychopaths and sociopaths work, do you.

    Want proof?


    Another replay of what these cat-licking sociopaths do, Google for: CATS VENICE COMPLEX REPRIEVE

    A $150 million renovation project for low-income housing, put on hold, jobs lost, money lost, homeless still homeless, court costs and lawyers, just to save a few of their feral vermin cRats. And the saddest part of all, the vast majority of these TNR’ed cats had already died heinous inhumane deaths from TNR-practitioners’ “death by attrition”. (Road-kill, diseases, parasites, injuries, environmental poisons, cat & animal attacks, exposure, etc.)

    Similar scenarios can be found by Googling for feral cats and churches, universities, hospitals, shopping centers, malls, apartment complexes, etc. Cat-lickers delusionally believe that any land on which a cat has stepped-foot is their own property and they can manipulate and control the owners and all laws on it.

    This is precisely why everyone is learning to destroy all cats on their properties as quickly and quietly as possible. Telling nobody beforehand about any cats even being there. Long before these psychotic cat-licker sociopaths and psychopaths get wind of the cats. Shoot cats first — tell no-one later. The only thing worse than feral cats are feral cat-lickers. You can legally shoot the former, not the latter. You need to pay lawyers and courts to get rid of the latter. THEN you can get rid of their cats. And the sad part is, that’s EXACTLY what happens, each and every time.

    People are wising-up. If ANY cats are around they destroy every last one of them first, before they make any other move.

    In support of this officer people are now shooting AT LEAST 1 cat per day to start to put a dent in the ecological-disaster and disease-outbreaks that these net-bullying cat-lickers have caused and are hellbent on perpetuating worldwide.

    That’s the new chain of events that they have to stop. Let’s see them try.

    • Bob Sweatt

      My thoughts exactly.

      • Woodsman001

        Spread the word! :-)

        I got 5000 rounds of .22′s on a closeout sale. That comes to only $0.003 per cat. Three invasive species cats PER PENNY. Each and every one permanently vaccinated (against diseases they spread for which there are not even vaccines), instantly sterilized, and permanently stopped from destroying any more valuable native wildlife for only 1/3rd of a cent EACH. (Guaranteed with a good scope and a laser sight. I’ve not wasted even one bullet on a cat yet. Each shot counted.) Each one also getting a permanent and loving “forever home” 2 feet under. Just like cat-lickers want for all their cats!

      • Woodsman001

        I found a way to turn my home and lands into a 100% fatal cat-trap which I now share with everyone who has been plagued by moron cat-lickers who are trying to hijack your homes, lands, and lives with their vermin cats. I had already had an IR wildlife surveillance system in place, so I put it to better use. Using IR surveillance cameras and baiting trails of fish-oils along all the roadsides to a cat-feeding dish within range of my laser-sighted rifle. This can totally clean-out ANY stray cats for miles around. VERY EFFECTIVE if you have idiot cat-licking problem-neighbors by you.

        You can now get VERY NICE IR surveillance cameras on ebay for only $15 [search ebay with the string: "CCTV (IR, infra-red)" (do not include the quotes) -- the 48 IR LED ones are best], and $15 rifle laser-sights as well. For only a $30 investment and the drained oils from tuna or sardine tins, or a bottle of fish-oil-fertilizer from your garden center, to drizzle trails on all your roadsides; you can get rid of EVERY LAST ONE OF THEIR CATS in only a couple seasons!

        Further Help: These cats are skittish as all get out. Illuminate your yard with red-floods dimmed low on dimmers (they also put out tons of IR illumination). Once you spot one of their vermin cRats on your surveillance monitor, turn off all your indoor lights, and then SLOWLY, VERY SLOWLY, open the door so as not to scare them out of your yard. The dimmed-low outdoor floods also helping to shield your presence from their view and provide enough light to help aim by. Use the laser-sight to aim for a precision chest-shot. They die in under 3 seconds, often less than 1 second, not even enough time to make a sound. This is FAR FAR FAR more humane than the days of terror and torment that even TNR (trap, neuter, release) advocates put their cats through. And then of course, their blinders-on slow INHUMANE “death by attrition” that they spew and embrace. Contrary to popular opinion, do not use a head-shot. I tried that once, it took much longer for it to die. I now suspect that cats survive more by their reptilian brain-stem than any unused gray-matter that might be above it (just like cat-lovers do). And is probably the origin of the 9-lives myth.

        p.s. If you are still forced to use traps and cats have already learned to evade all trapping methods, then inexpensive generic 1-adult-strength acetaminophen (overseas a.k.a. paracetamol) pain-relievers are a more species specific vermin poison, available everywhere for pennies. MUCH safer for the environment and all other animals than the antifreeze and rat-poisons that cat-lickers have forced everyone into using. But you really do need to retrieve and dispose of that carcass safely so that native wildlife won’t die from the many diseases cats spread even after their death. I fed a shot-dead cat to some starving opossum once, starving from cats having destroyed all their foods. (2 adults and 3 offspring they had while under my care.) Those opossum then died from some disease in that cat. Leaving ANY cat, alive OR dead, out in nature is no better than intentionally poisoning your native wildlife to death. Cats truly are complete wastes of flesh, they can’t even be used to feed wild animals safely.)

        I don’t see anyone dumping cats where I live anymore. They don’t even adopt more than can be kept under lock & key 24/7. When driving through the area I don’t see even one cat on anyone’s doorsteps anymore. I always keep an eye out to see if there are more free-roaming cats that will have to be shot one day. And if I’ll have to leave fish-oil trails on all the roadsides again, leading right to my IR surveillance system and laser-sighted rifle.

        I haven’t seen even ONE cat in nearly FOUR YEARS now!

        Leaving ANY of their invasive species cats outside in my area means certain death for that cat, their further existence can be counted in hours. You’d think everyone else could learn from this simple lesson. The quickest way to solve an unwanted animal and irresponsible pet-owner problem is to let everyone know that you will quickly and humanely destroy every last one of their unwanted, uncared-for, or unsupervised animals for them. They either grow up fast or, far more plausible, dump their animals elsewhere to become someone else’s problem.

        You just can’t be an enabler of criminally irresponsible spineless and heartless idiots — or they remain that way. (At least where you live, anyway.)

        • Woodsman001

          A few more of my tips and methods whereby I managed to get rid of every last one of hundreds of these vermin cats in only two seasons, can be found (in Reader’s Digest form) at

          For nighttime the scented trails and IR cams worked best, for daytime the help of learning the predator-alert calls of native wildlife was best. They always alerted me to the presence of, and led me directly to some of the most wary cats of all.

          You must take direct relentless action against stray cats, you can’t just wait for them all to show up one day or they just keep coming and coming. It’s the only way to stay ahead of their breeding rates and the rates at which MORON cat-lickers and cat-dumpers keep letting more being born and dumped outdoors.

          Good luck!

    • heterodox

      Yes. The cat-loving idiots create the problem by allowing their stupid, worse-than-useless animals to wander freely, and then they demonize the people who are simply trying to deal with the problems they created. I guess everyone is supposed to be happy picking up cat crap, dead birds, and contracting giardia in their own gardens.

  • hottamomma

    most people that thought accorti was right didnt vote cause they were tired of the story and didnt even click back on it. i didnt even c it.

    • Woodsman001

      Most who thought he was right didn’t even know about it. They’re not some house-bound cat-licking psychopath whose only view of reality is their cat and keyboard, firing off letters and petitions about every cat-killing case in the world 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

      The people who thought he was right have actual lives.

      • hottamomma

        Perfectly put!

  • hottamomma

    there was danger to the public, a kid couldve picked up the kittens and got a disease and spread it at school or in a park or anywhere, so they did present a danger. its the officers call it they present a danger of not, its not the public call.

    • Woodsman001

      Google for: rabid cat adopted wake county
      Another example (of thousands), Google for: rabid kitten jamestown exposure

      Adopting or approaching any unknown cat that’s been outdoors is just playing Russian Roulette.

      The net is flooded with similar examples every week. THOUSANDS of people must endure, pay for (out of their own pocket) the painful and expensive (more than $3000) rabies shots if they get scratched or bitten by any stray or feral cat, especially if that cat cannot be trapped again to destroy it and test it for rabies. Stray-cat feeders are guaranteeing this, by training and teaching these cats to approach humans for food. These wild animals then lashing out by biting or scratching at any hands that try to touch or pet the now seemingly-friendly “cute kitty”. Two cases even report where rabid cats entered a home-owner’s unlocked pet door, and another where the cat even came right through their ceiling in search of human-supplied foods. One attack so bad that the family required hospitalization.

      Even vaccinating your cat against rabies won’t prevent it from finding the nearest rabid bat dying on the ground to rip it to shreds for its daily cat’s play-toy. Then bringing back a mouthful or claws full of fresh rabies virus to you, your family, neighbors, other pets, or other animals. ANY cat, due to their need to sink their teeth into anything that moves, if allowed outdoors can transmit rabies to others, vaccinated or not.

      These are just the diseases cats have been spreading to humans, not counting the ones they spread to all wildlife. THERE ARE NO VACCINES against many of these, and are in-fact listed as bio-terrorism agents. They include: Afipia felis, Anthrax, Bartonella (Rochalimaea) henselae, Bergeyella (Weeksella) zoohelcum, Campylobacter Infection, Cat Scratch Disease, Chlamydia psittaci (feline strain), Cowpox, Coxiella burnetti Infection (Q fever), Cryptosporidium Infection, Cutaneous larva migrans, Dermatophytosis, Dipylidium Infection (tapeworm), Hookworm Infection, Leptospira Infection, Giardia, Neisseria canis, Pasteurella multocida, Plague, Poxvirus, Rabies, Rickettsia felis, Ringworm, Salmonella Infection, Scabies, Sporothrix schenckii, Toxocara Infection, Toxoplasmosis, Trichinosis, Visceral larva migrans, Yersinia pseudotuberculosis. [Centers for Disease Control, July 2010] Sarcosporidiosis, Flea-borne Typhus, Tularemia, and Rat-Bite Fever can now also be added to that list.

      A FEW examples (of thousands):

      Cat-Transmitted PLAGUE:

      Totally disproving that oft-spewed myth that cats in Europe could have prevented the plague. No rats nor fleas even required. Cats themselves carry and transmit the plague all on their own.


      Flea-borne Typhus:

      Hookworm — ruined Miami Businesses:

      Cats’ most insidious disease of all, their Toxoplasma gondii parasite they spread through their excrement into all other animals. This is how humans get it in their dinner-meats, cats roaming around stockyards and farms. This is why cats are routinely destroyed around gestating livestock or important wildlife by shooting or drowning them. So those animals won’t suffer from the same things that can happen to the unborn fetus of any pregnant woman. (Miscarriages, still-births, hydrocephaly, and microcephaly.) It can make you blind or even kill you at any time during your life once you’ve been infected. It becomes a permanent lifetime parasite in your mind, killing you when your immune system becomes compromised by disease or chemo and immunosuppressive therapies. It can last over a year in any soils or waters and not even washing your hands or garden vegetables in bleach will destroy the oocysts. Contrary to cat-lickers’ self-deceptive myths, a cat can become reinfected many times during its life and spread millions of oocysts each time. It’s now linked to the cause of autism, schizophrenia, and brain cancers. This parasite is also killing off rare and endangered marine-mammals along all coastlines from cats’ T. gondii oocysts in run-off from the land, the oocysts surviving even in saltwater.

      Its strange life cycle is meant to infect rodents. Any rodents infected with it lose their fear of cats and are attracted to cat urine.

      Cats attract rodents to your home with their whole slew of diseases. If you want rodents in your home keep cats outside of it to attract diseased rodents to your area. I experienced this phenomenon (as have many others), and all rodent problems disappeared after I shot and buried every last one of hundreds of cats on my lands.

      The time has come to destroy them all whenever spotted away from supervised confinement. There’s no other solution. We have nobody but cat-lickers to thank for this health and ecological disaster. Stray-cats, the very source of all feral-cats, need to be euthanized too or you’ll never be rid of the feral-cat problem.

      • hottamomma

        now thats deep schooling right there. thanks for that, i didnt know all that.

      • Larry Crnobrnja


        And I’m laughing at you, not with you.

        • Woodsman001

          And the rest of the world is laughing at you for you showing and succinctly proving to the world just how extremely ignorant and self-deceptive you are.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            According to the CT’s poll, you’re fooling yourself. So I guess that means you’re projecting?

          • Woodsman001

            According to CT’s self-deceptive poll, you are still deceiving yourself.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            I guess you showed me. (snicker, snicker)

          • Woodsman001

            What’s the matter? Is the only thing that can even stand to be near you in life is your cat, and that’s what makes you so desperate for attention from humans online? That’s the usual problem with cat-licker trolls.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            I don’t post anonymously, so it wouldn’t be hard for anybody to find out what kind of person I am.

          • Woodsman001

            In cases of cat-lickers like you, ANYONE need only Google for Loews Hotels Feral Cats (for but one of thousands of examples). Ask Officer Accorti if he would have much rather euthanized those cats anonymously now. :-)

            Hence, the worldwide explosion of two very popular cat management programs. The SSS and TDSS Cat Management Programs. “Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-Up”; and “Trap, Drown, Shovel, & Shut-Up”. No local ordinances nor policies are violated if nothing ever happened! Perfectly legal on every square foot of this earth. SSS and TDSS are you two very best friends if you live near criminally-irresponsible and criminally-negligent cat-licking neighbors. (Are you one of them? Most likely, or you wouldn’t be so worried about someone shooting your disease-infested vermin cats for you.) Many a raccoon, dog, fox, coyote, car, cat-napper, hawk, eagle, etc. has been blamed for a neighbor’s cat that is now missing for too long. It’s true what they say though, that if your cat goes missing it can usually be found within 1 block of your home. Trouble is, most cat-lickers who are missing a cat would have to bring a shovel with them to find where their cat’s new “forever home” is at.

            NO sane person in the world wants to get a bunch of psychotic and demented cat-lickers like you invading their lives. Google for: Oda Lawmakers Shun Security Threats, for yet another example of how cat-licking cretins like you fire-off death threats to Congressmen, their families, and fellow lawmakers.

            You’re in fine company. You look just as bad as the cat-licking sociopaths, psychopaths, and psychotics that you defend.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Oh, so you’re a tough guy? EXCUUUUSE me.

          • Bob Sweatt

            Woodsman. Stop wasting your time. Larry the cat lover is set in his way. He wouldn’t hear anything negative about cats.

            better for you to just move one. Because all these radical animal lovers are just going to keep this up until the humane officer loses his job.

          • Woodsman001

            Oh, I already knew that. I’m 20 steps ahead. :-)

            After 15 years of trying to reason with criminally negligent cat-lickers, I learned my lesson (at the loss of nearly all the native wildlife on my lands that were tortured to death or starved to death by their invasive species vermin pestilent cats). You can’t train a cat to stay home; but I found that, in time; you CAN train a disrespectful, inconsiderate, and criminally irresponsible neighbor into being a responsible, considerate, and respectable adult. One who finally takes care of their animals like any responsible grown-up would.

            I only use cat-lickers now as my online show-’n-tell puppets. To prove to everyone in the world, beyond any doubt in the universe, that no matter how much you try to educate them, reason with them, beg with them, plead with them, argue with them; that it will solve NOTHING for the problem that THEY created and are hellbent on perpetuating. The ONLY thing that works is ignoring every last thing that morons like him might spew to the world — giving back the EXACT SAME amount of respect to them as they show to all other lives on the planet — and then just destroy every last one of their unsupervised cats. Then and only then will the problem that they created be solved.

            You have to ignore every last thing these deranged invasive species cat-lickers are spewing to the world. That’s the most important part. Asking them for advice and help to solve the problem that they created and are hellbent on perpetuating is just as foolish as asking your local career thieves for their advice and help to hide your valuables from their daily motives, goals, and activities.

            It worked 100% where I live! May others learn to ignore them as much as I had, then your cat problem solves itself! 100% guaranteed!

            Larry? Dance my little show-’n-tell puppet, dance. :-) Prove to everyone again how you are the core to the problem, and never the solution. :-)

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            You are my superior in both intelligence and overall manliness. And you prove it with each and every post. I’m sure most of us mere mortals tremble with fear and excitement in your presence.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Please don’t run him off, I’m impressed with his wisdom and bravery. (And I almost have his IP address.)

          • Woodsman001

            Tsk tsk…. better psychotic net-stalkers than you have tried. LOL

            They now have whole pages of IP addresses that I’ve used. They still don’t even know what country I reside in.

            Ah, the joys of knowing how to use a proxy-train. LOL

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean people aren’t following you. LOL

          • Woodsman001

            Not paranoid at all. I know how you cat-lickers work. I investigated that before even starting on this venture to destroy your motives and goals in life. I even set up dozens of fake mail addresses in case you cat-lickers get them and want to mail-bomb them (which many of you psychotic cat-lickers already have, go for it, that’s what they’re for! LOL)

            I’m just not going to bring psychopathic and psychotic idiots like you to my door. That’s about as sane as sane can get!

            I have collected more death-threats from mentally-ill sociopaths like you than Carter has pills. The FBI is very interested in them all, but since I already know cat-lickers’ threats are as empty as their brains and lives, I could care less. Plus … should any of them ACCIDENTALLY make good on their threats, then they ALL go down during the investigation. LOL

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            I’m sure you meant to say “I couldn’t care less” or maybe it was a trap you set, to see how dumb I am?

            Troll on, master.

          • Woodsman001

            Thanks for the typo catch. I type over 130wpm, so I often even transpose whole worlds (instead of just letters); correctly spelled words, but the wrong ones or in the wrong order. A form of typo that most people aren’t aware of that can be made when you type that fast. The muscle-memory in the hands and arms pre-selecting a word for you that is similar to, but not the one intended (and surprisingly spelled correctly). Your hands don’t know context, and by the time they have selected a word that is similar to one you intended and your thoughts have gone onto the next sentence, it’s far too late to catch it.

            How’s that psychotic net-stalking working out for you? Did you deduce which hemisphere of the globe that I reside in yet? Cat-lickers can’t even get that right.

            But then, cat-lickers are always dumber than their cats. This is why so many of their cats can “outsmart” them and escape from their confinement. Dumber than their cats. Even their cats are showing them that they don’t want to be around anyone that astoundingly stupid. (The word “moron” comes to mind — someone too stupid to even realize they are that stupid.)


          • Larry Crnobrnja

            You are a legend in your own mind.

            I bet you’re a trip at family reunions.

          • TheDon Corleone

            Something is happening here, and I’m getting a little worried. One of the first facts we should face is that the time has arrived to make a choice between freedom and slavery, revolt and submission, liberty and subservience. We must choose wisely, knowing that if we speak up and speak out against Larry Crnobrnja, we can live as truly free and empowered human beings. If, however, we let Larry rifle, pillage, plunder, and loot, we become little more than fearful, broken dogs condemned to exist in a world of boisterous nepotism.

            The facts are in: Larry Crnobrnja is bereft of an intelligent view on pretty much any issue.

          • sueishere

            I’ll betcha by golly, he takes his guns to family reunions. Good ole’ shoot em’ up! YE HAW!!!!!

          • Woodsman001

            I had never even owned a rifle until I found out that shooting cats was the ONLY method that was effective. Then I realized I had to put firearms skills on my list of things-to-do.

            I now thank the criminally-irresponsible cat-licking neighbors for showing me that I had marksmanship skills I never knew I had. Of the hundreds that I shot I’ve not had to waste even one bullet, not one cat suffered. One I shot about 80 yards away in the dead of the night four winters ago as it took a full-run down a shoveled path. The only light was the laser-sight’s light bouncing off the snow. I went out to be sure I had got it but didn’t see it, thinking I had missed completely and it ran off. The next morning I found it behind a kick of snow, not 2 feet from where I had aimed into the pitch-dark, where I knew it was running to. It must have died in mid-bound and dropped there.

            If anyone wants to get their rifle or hunting skills up to snuff, I HIGHLY advise they use cats for lessons. It’s much more difficult than anyone would first think. And if you love animals as much as I do, and don’t want any of them to suffer,you’ll be damned sure you are an excellent shot.

            Just suck it up and DO WHAT MUST BE DONE.To this day that rifle has never shot at anything but targets (to check sight alignment) and cats. That’s all that it has ever been used for.

            But I keep it should a rabid or badly injured animal need to be put down. Or to scare a rather friendly bear in my woods that might challenge his welcome one day. Or if another pathetically stupid cat-licker lets their cat outsmart them to roam free onto my lands.

            If your cat can outsmart you to get outside, that only proves that you are far more stupid than a cat, and you shouldn’t be allowed to have ANY other life under your care.

            If you don’t want me or anyone else to shoot cats, don’t let them roam free. How simple is that? Is this logic beyond your comprehension? Must be.

          • sueishere

            Larry if you take your cursor and place it over Woodsy’s name, it will show 2093 comments he has made. Most of his comments are about how bad cats are, it is amazing. Talk about being obsessed. He must try and find every article about cats and comment on them. Please, if you get time, read some of them. Then, thank the Good Lord you don’t live next to this gun licker….

          • Woodsman001

            You can look at it this way …. it took me 15+ years of dealing with cat-lickers who did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop their cats from annihilating all the wildlife on my lands, and 2 seasons of shooting cats to get rid of every last stray cat on my lands; feral, pet, it mattered not.

            This was accomplished through relentless vigilance and accuracy. I realized afterward that the ONLY way to prevent this from ever happening again was to apply the very same techniques now to those that had caused this local ecological disaster in the first place. To stop them, for all native wildlife, for myself, and everyone else that has been tormented in life by people just as much of a mindless moron as you.

            I’m not going away until every last person that advocates the release of invasive-species cats has been stopped from practicing their criminally-irresponsible behavior.

            You can count on that.

            Payback’s a b!tch, B!tch!


          • mel

            It’s best to ignore and flag his comments as inappropriate. You can’t reason with someone who’s insane. He actually DOES find every cat article and comment on it. If you google the name and his other aliases, you realize the true level of his depravity. This is a fetish for him. As long as he’s on here doing this, he’s not outside shooting any animals (or people).

          • sueishere

            You’re right Mel. Little person with little gun.

          • Woodsman001

            I quite like seeing when fringe lunatic cat-lickers try to censor my posts.

            Simple reason being:

            CENSORSHIP –The very last bastion of the blind-followers of any wholly proved false and completely failed religion.

            Just like TNR (Trap, Neuter, Re-abandon) is a now a 100% disproved religion; a religion based on nothing but wishful thinking, self-centered and self-aggrandized feel-good imaginings, and psychotic conjecture. AND ZERO FACTS.

            Whenever these cat-licking fanatics get my posts deleted they have publicly admitted to the whole world that their beliefs are 100% false.

            They’ve got NO other way to defend their psychoses.

            But then, like I’ve always said, cat-lickers are always dumber than their cats. Why do you think their cats can outsmart them so often to get away from them? That alone PROVES that their cats are smarter than they are. Then too, it even proves that their cats are smart enough to not even want to be around them.

          • sueishere

            This guy is a hoot!! Talk about paranoid.

          • TheDon Corleone

            With friends like Larry, who needs enemies? I mean, I’ve heard numerous complaints about his behavior. Many people I’ve talked to have complained that Larry comports himself like a filthy pig, heedless of all needs but his own. Among these needs the paramount one seems to be the need to put increased disruptive powers in the hands of raving fast-buck artists. This backs up my point that he keeps telling everyone within earshot that the media should “create” news rather than report it. I’m guessing that Larry read that on some Web site of dubious validity. More reliable sources generally indicate that if he bites me I will bite back. The final thing I want to bring up in this letter is that I’ll do what I can to reinforce notions of positive self-esteem, and each of you reading this letter should do the same. Let’s be there for each other. Let’s help each other. And let’s shed a little light on some of the ignorant prejudices that reside within Larry Crnobrnja’s pea-sized brain.

          • sueishere

            At least he’s not afraid to show his real picture and use his real name. My name is Sue Lawson by the way. Yours????

          • Woodsman001

            Good for you! I’ll remember that name the next time some cat needs to be shot and buried. :-)

          • sueishere

            Little person with a little gun.

          • TheDon Corleone

            Hoe’s don’t call me by my name, they call me daddy.

          • TheDon Corleone


          • TheDon Corleone

            You simply cannot ”obtain” someones IP address Larry.

            Only the internet service provider can give you that, and it would have to be with a warrant from the police. ( Not a reject like you)

            Everytime you say something, you let the rest of us know just how stupid you are…

            **** Source- Me. I work in the IT field.

            Thanks Larry!

          • Woodsman001

            While this is generally true across the board, I also post this valuable information to cat-licker sites owned all over the world to let them know just how very wrong they are. Some of the more unscrupulous ones have gone against basic net-provider rules and garnered IPs from all my posts, then posted them publicly in their attempts to “hunt him down and kill him”. LOL!

            (I could have all their sites shut down for that and have them lose their net-access completely, but that’s no fun. :-) )

            See, I know what I’m up against, and why I took precautions before even starting. It’s now been 3 years of letting people know how to solve their invasive species cat problems throughout the world, and they STILL can’t find out where or who I am. I’ve been accused of being every last one of their known enemies — known researchers, heads of environmental agencies, them comparing my words with guest-speaker presentations at conferences, etc., they’ve guessed them all and tried to make people believe it with their net-stalking bullying. They’re STILL wrong.

            You’ve no idea the lengths these psychotic cat-licking sociopaths will go to to protect their diseased vermin pet pests. Nowadays I just tell them my name is Rumpelstiltskin and type a lot of “LOL”s. :-)

            But it is true, that Larry don’t know his IP (nor anyone else’s) from his a**hole.

            Want some more fun?

            Long ago I started telling people that,

            “The ONLY difference between rats and cats these days is that people who own and love pet-rats aren’t severely mentally unbalanced and trying to hoard feral-rat populations on other people’s public and private properties — while also relentlessly petitioning all their lawmakers to do so. Pet-rat owners, and all other types of pet owners, at least have THEIR sh** together. If only the same were true of all these mentally-ill cat-hoarders. (I still think it’s their cats’ Toxoplasma gondii parasites in the cat-lovers’ brains that make them so unfalteringly blind to their own stupidity, hypocrisy, and absolute absurdity.)”

            Someone ran with the idea.

            Are you ready for the A.R.A.?


            (An Alley-Cat-AllLies parody.)

            Too effin’ funny. I wonder if the cat-lickers will “get it” now.

            Of course not! They’re JUST that astoundingly stupid.

          • TheDon Corleone

            Spot on.


          • sueishere

            Do you shoot disease carrying dogs too Woodsy?? Just wondering….

          • Woodsman001

            To address the dog-lover/cat-hater accusation from the arm-chair, mommy’s-basement-dwelling, cat-licking “psychologist”:

            It is mandatory by law in nearly every, if not every, state of the USA to shoot any dog on sight that is seen harassing wildlife. This is why feral dog-packs are a rarity in most rural areas. They are SHOT before things get that bad.

            Where I live stray dogs get a red paint-ball gun. Stings enough to teach a teachable dog, and leaves a nice signal on their coat to teach the owner what could have really, and legally, happened to their dog. Though if it happens too often …. nobody is learning anything, so it has to end. Sadly.

            This is why you rarely hear of feral dog packs in rural areas. Everyone knows to do their civic and moral duty.

            Cats aren’t so easily forgiven. From past experience of 15 years of trying to reason with useless and demented cat-lickers (JUST LIKE YOU) it has been proved to me, beyond any doubt in the universe, that it does absolutely no good whatsoever (read the comments from all cat-lickers like you for similar proof), so out comes the rifle on the first sighting of ANY cat.

            People who actually care about their animals in rural areas keep them supervised and confined. We also take full responsibility for the lives of our animals. If they die, by ANY means, then that is our faults and our faults alone. Like any respectable adult would. If someone would shoot a dog of mine because they had to I would even apologize to them for putting them in that difficult situation, THEN grieve the loss of a loved pet, for it being MY fault.

            You can tell who actually loves their pets in rural areas — their pets are still alive.

            Do you love your cat(s)? If someone is in a situation where they feel the need to shoot it, then clearly you don’t give one damn about that pet of yours. And your cat DESERVES to die.

          • sueishere

            Little person, my cats don’t go out.

          • Woodsman001

            Well, then you’ve got nothing to worry about do you. So you’ve just been shooting off your big mouth just for attention then. I get it.

            NO real man wants a cat-licking woman. So this is all you have to get attention from men for the rest of your sorry life.

            Pity that.


          • sueishere

            I do declare, little person said no real man would want me. What am I to do??? Little person, you wouldn’t know a real man if he slapped you in the face. So go put on your little camouflage out fit, camouflage your face, put on skunk pee, get your little gun and go do what you do best. Aren’t those voices in your little brain telling you another website may be talking about cats, my goodness get over there and comment. YOU BORE ME!!! I WON’T ANSWER YOU AGAIN!!!! Go ahead call me nasty names, I can take it. A little person like you will never get to me. (Please sound like Scarlett O’hara when reading the first two lines.)

          • sueishere

            I love how this serial animal killer is calling YOU ignorant. Wow, just wow.

          • sueishere

            Is this guy for real???

  • Woodsman001

    In case anyone is curious — the term that I use of “cat licker” is justifiably and accurately gleaned from the growing fad of people who are obsessed with cats and want to do everything possible to make their cats feel good, as naturally as possible, at the expense of all that is reasonable and sane.

    They are now licking their cats clean.

    Since they see a cat fighting back from being washed in water as animal abuse, but the cat not fighting if they use their tongues, they use their tongues instead to wash their cats.

    It’s just another one of the many aberrant and mentally-ill behaviors of “cat lickers”.

    I cannot, in all honesty, EVER use the term “cat lover” again to describe these heartless and spineless cretins. People who love cats do not throw them under the wheels of moving cars, let them lap-up antifreeze in a gutter, force them to attack one another to fight for territory (no different than people who run dog-fight rings and are just as criminal of animal abuse), or let them be attacked by other animals by letting them roam free. “Cat Lover” is an extremely oxymoronic label. “Cat Licker” is the only one that accurately works today!

    • JayBee57

      Why are you anonymous? I don’t understand. You have conviction of your beliefs but you won’t stamp them with who you are?
      People are people. Some like dogs, some like cats, some like lizards, birds and whatever. I don’t get the cat hate. And I don’t get the hate + the anonymous. Your convictions, okay, they are yours, but you won’t own them because you are anonymous. Why? Just wondering.

      • Woodsman001

        Why are you even posting? Clearly you don’t even read the posts that you reply to.

        Troll for attention much? What’s the matter? Is that cat not enough attention for you?

        ‘Tis a pity, indeed. LOL

      • Woodsman001

        Destroying cats is neither hating cats nor a fear of cats.

        Why do mentally-unbalanced and psychotic cat-advocates always presume that if someone is removing a highly destructive, deadly disease spreading, human-engineered invasive-species from the native habitat to restore it back into natural balance that they must hate that organism? Does someone who destroys Zebra Mussels, Kudzu, African Cichlids, Burmese Pythons, Brown Tree Snakes, or any of the other myriad destructive invasive-species have some personal problem with that species? (Many of which are escaped PETS that don’t even spread any harmful diseases, unlike cats.) Your ignorance and blatant biases are revealed in your declaring that people who destroy cats must somehow hate or fear cats. Nothing could be further from the truth.

        It is people who let a destructive invasive-species roam free that tortures-to-death all other wildlife, wasted for their cats’ play-toys, that have zero respect for ALL life. They don’t even care about their cats dying a slow torturous death from exposure, animal attacks, diseases, starvation, dehydration, becoming road-kill, environmental poisons, etc., the way that ALL stray cats suffer to death. They don’t even respect their fellow human being. This speaks more than volumes about your disgusting character. People like you should be locked up in prison for life for your cruelty to all animals, cruelty to your own cats as well as all the native wildlife that you let your cats skin alive or disembowel alive for their and your entertainment. If you let cats roam free you are violating every animal-abandonment, animal-neglect, animal-endangerment, and invasive-species law in existence.

        If people do hate cats today, have LEARNED to hate cats today, you have nobody but yourself and everyone just like you to blame. YOU are the reason people are now realizing that all excess cats must be destroyed on-site and on-sight. You’ve done so much to make people care about cats, haven’t you. If you want to do something about it, direct your sadly and sorely misplaced energies at those that are causing the problem, not at those who are actually solving it AND HAVE SOLVED IT 100%.

        THIS IS YOUR FAULT and THE FAULT OF EVERYONE JUST LIKE YOU. You have NOBODY but yourselves to blame.

        You can take that all the way to the very last shot-dead cat’s grave.

    • sueishere

      I didn’t watch your stupid video but here’s one for you, A DOG LICKING THE INSIDE OF A MAN’S MOUTH!!!!!! – YouTube ;)

  • Woodsman001

    Since you have people like Larry Crnobrnja in your community, I thought you might need even more help. Here’s some valuable information, posted just in Larry’s honor. (He’s so helpful, isn’t he? If not for his goading I wouldn’t have posted this. :-) ) …

    I also found a perfectly 100% natural solution for those who don’t want to take more direct and more effective measures against free-roaming invasive species cats. Anyone who has criminally irresponsible cat-lickers in their area need only plant lilies on their properties. (Must be from the Lilium species, not just with “Lily” in the common name, see notes.) Cat-lickers always want their more responsible neighbors to grow plants around the perimeter of their properties that will repel their cats for them (from the cat-owners’ own criminally negligent and criminally irresponsible behaviors and values). Well now you can brighten up your yard AND repel cats naturally! — PERMANENTLY

    (WARNING: If these plants are not native to your region don’t plant these if they cannot be contained, or risk introducing yet another potentially harmful invasive species!)

    Google for: lily toxicity cats

    It has been reported that a cat even licking a little bit of Lily pollen from their fur will be fatal in short order. A cat even drinking some of the water in which a bunch of lilies has been kept is also fatal to them.

    Everyone happy! You get to have the kinds of plants that you want, they get to have the kind of pets that they want — if they take care of it like any responsible grown-up would. Or are cat-lickers now going to demand that you can’t plant flowers on your own property? That would be their next and usual move, wouldn’t it.

    A perfectly natural solution to an invasive species animal that didn’t evolve with Lilium species around. Plus it’s a good incentive plan for cat-lickers to finally educate themselves all about ecology, native species, and evolution. :-)

    Doing a little research on ASPCA’s toxic plants lists (Family: Liliaceae).

    Lilies (Lilium species) that are deadly toxic to cats ONLY, in even small quantities (even the pollen will do):

    Asian Lily (Asiatic Lily) | Scientific Name: Lilium asiatica

    Easter Lily | Scientific Name: Lilium longiflorum

    Red Lily | Scientific Name: Lilium umbellatum

    Rubrum Lily ** | Scientific Name: Lilium speciosum cultivar

    Stargazer Lily ** | Scientific Name: Lilium orientalis

    Tiger Lily ** | Scientific Name: Lilium tigrinum

    Wood Lily | Scientific Name: Lilium umbellatum

    (not of the Lilium species)

    Orange Day Lily | Scientific Name: Hemerocallis graminea

    ( ** see notes below)

    Lilies (Lilium species) that may be toxic to dogs if the dog ingests enough:


    Be sure they are from the Liliacea Family, has “Lilium” on the plant label or are common N. American Day Lilies. Some plant with the word “Lily” in the common name are not true Lilium species and may be toxic to other species of animals, always double-check. On further investigation I found out that all plant-parts, the blossoms and pollen being the most toxic, if harvested and dried (for year-round use) are just as deadly toxic to cats (if not more-so because of the unknown toxin being concentrated), and the drying makes them even more palatable to cats. What a great mulch for gardens! (Or powdered spice for a special outdoor can of tuna.)

    ** There have been some anecdotal reports of some free-roaming cats that have spent many years around some of these particular species of plants and still survived. So it is best to harvest, dry, and grind-up the plants and mix them into any appropriate bait-foods to be most effective.

    • Woodsman001

      Huh … where’d Larry go? The least he could do is thank me for posting this information in his honor. The cat-licking ingrate! :-)

  • No Anchovies

    1. The fact that this drew national & international news media attention, in-and-of-itself, demonstratively establishes that this was not an accepted act within the “range of options” throughout the municipalities which have humane officers.

    Otherwise, similar kitten killings would be occurring monthly or bi-monthly and not making the news OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE, no longer making the news.

    So the people griping about the protesters saying they need to get a life are thoroughly propagandized by the FOX NEWS talking heads who do their thinking for them and who lack the cognitive wherewithal to do the thinking for themselves.

    Start a discussion about something that FOX NEWS itself flees from and these same sarcastic individuals look stunned when they see their FOX NEWS heros dodging the issues.

    2. This then leads to the inadequate responses by Mayor Gillock, Police Chief Freeman and third-ward councilman Jaenke.

    3)Chief Freeman was disciplined by Gillock for blowing up at the Avon Police Chief because Freeman’s wife was NOT GIVEN special treatment that no other shoplifters receive when they are booked.

    Gillock placed a disciplinary letter in his file and that served to bury the situation.

    INADEQUATE: Mayor Gillock intentionally avoids the larger issue — which is– why is a Police Chief feeling that he is entitled to SPECIAL TREATMENT that no other booking suspects receive.

    Give Freeman a disciplinary letter for the outburst

    Terminate Freeman’s employment for the “character flaw” which resulted in the outburst. A leopard cannot change his spots; this guy thinks he, his family and whoever else he includes in his umbrella of courtesy-card bearing friends deserve FREE PASSES where other similarly-situated individuals must be punished in the courts.

    This is the second time that someone has mentioned Accorti being a bully in the Chronicle.

    ..and Accorti did not roll over and play dead on the police cruiser damage disciplinary report.

    If true about the bully aspect, then Accorti could easily throw Police Chief Freeman’s wife and her shoplifting into the mix AS WELL AS “your wife get special treatment… you better by darn sure that I get that same special treatment… you just better be sure you be real nice to me from now on, Chief and henceforth you can start calling me MISTER Accorti.

    Police Chief Freeman will next be blackmailed by the Pizza Delivery Industry which is engaged in “racketeering” activities and will have his:

    a) wife’s shoplifting and

    b) feeling of entitlement to special treatment

    ..thrown into his face by the racketeers.

    We already had a North Ridgeville rape of an underage girl at the East of Chicago Pizza on Center Ridge Road.

    Newschannel 5 I-Team busted the owner when he sent the rapist to manage the Macedonia, OH East of Chicago Pizza Store.

    Police Chief Freeman will probably let another girl get raped, either at the store or when one of these drivers finds out that a girl has been left home alone by their parents who assume that these delivery drivers don’t have criminal records.

    Google “ex-con contractors” for the ABC NEWS 20/20 or go to this link:

    In Canton, OH the Papa Johns stores there protect their potentially rapist drivers by ILLEGALLY giving the Police & Fire Department a 50% discount that no other people in the community receive.

    The White Castle/Church’s Fried Chicken at W. 117th and Triskett ILLEGALLY provide free lunches to the W 130th Street Precinct.

    Police Chief Freeman may feel he and his officers deserve that 50% discount and that North Ridgeville…. now, more than ever… needs to get itself a White Castle restaurant

    Police Chief Freeman needs to go … there were plenty of other good candidates for Police Chief; they’re still there.

    North Ridgeville parents cannot allow their daughters’ safety to be placed in the hands of a Police Chief who has allowed himself to be put in the position of being blackmailed.

    Peyton Manning of the Denver Broncos has been unwittingly involved in racketeering activities by Papa John Schnatter, yet Herman Cain of Godfather’s Pizza, geppetto’s pizza, Marco’s Pizza, Dominos Pizza and Pizza Hut are all involved in the same racketeering with their insurers regarding the non-owned auto provision/rider to their stores’ general liability policies.

    Mayor Gillock was made aware of this years ago and buried his head in the sand YET STILL ALLOWED others to be cited for traffic violations in Mayors Court.

    Mayor Gillock’s phone number is: (440) 327-0451

    Willie Mahaffey stated in one of the CT’s Crystal Springs comments that Gillock’s family has gotten SPECIAL TREATMENT from the Police and Courts .

    Maybe that was why Police Chief Freeman thinks he’s entitled to SPECIAL TREATMENT and maybe Police Chief Freeman and Barry Accorti blackmailed Mayor Gillock into the letter of reprimand.

    “Hey, Mayor… we know you protected the Pizza Delivery industry from racketeering a few years back… you make DARN SURE that we don’t face anything more than a slap on the wrist… tell the news media and public that you are in contact with the SPCA and that you are analyzing procedures/policies and maybe those SPCA nuts will die down and not start talking about a North Ridgeville Parent leaving a girl at home alone to get raped by a North Ridgeville Pizza Delivery Driver… oh, and YOU TOO, Mister Mayor can start referring to Barry as MISTER Accorti

    Again… another underage North Ridgeville girl is in danger of being raped/murdered and IF IT HAPPENS Mayor Gillock will say that he is reviewing policy with rape crisis officials and maybe even the SPCA but that MISTER Accorti told him personally that the raped/murdered girl is in “kitty heaven” taking care of those 5 cats.

    Bookmark/Favorite this article tomorrow and look in the comments to read the response to Councilman Jaenke and find out about how the North Ridgeville City Officials are protecting a bank from a HUGE tax bill

    See you all tomorrow

    Same bat time

    Same bat channel

    Bookmark/Favorite this page especially if you love cats and feel the town officials all gave you the okie-doke, a pat on the head and told you to scram.

    Like cartoon character Natasha Fatale said to Boris Badenov: “Eeez time to make beeg trouble for moose & squirrel”

    You cat lovers can do some REAL DAMAGE to the careers of these town officials by forcing them to bite the hand that feeds them.

    Tomorrow…tune in tomorrow

    • Woodsman001

      And now …. back on topic:

      Red-Herring, the most favorite canned-food of demented cat-lickers
      everywhere. Go post your complaints on pages that are related to your
      distractions from the cat-licker-perpetuated cat problem. It’s not going to stop people like me from shooting and burying every last one of your unsupervised disease-infested cats.

      I think we should now up the ante.

      Instead of shooting just one unsupervised cat per day in support of Accorti, we should all shoot two per day.

      One in support, & one against — you.



  • Bob Pardee

    This officer should not be fired for what he did. He followed policy. This man has a family to support, so you think that firing him is the answer, get a life . There are those who think catch, neuter and release is the answer. How about you coughing up the money to pay for the program. The problem starts when people that drop off their pets on the side of the road. If this didn’t happen there would not be such a big feral cat, or stray dog problem. This shows how callus people have become today.

    • Woodsman001

      All true (except for one thing). They don’t care about any other living thing on earth, no other animals, no other humans. And when it boils right down to it, not even the lives of cats. That’s why they have no problems letting them roam free to get flattened by cars or die in any other manner. They only use cats to try to control and manipulate everyone around them — little animal sacrifices for their own purposes.

      Their cats are never enough attention in life so they use them to get what they can’t get from cats. Indoor cat-hoarders being a good example, amassing so many cats until they get the attention of their WHOLE community. An attention-deficit of maximum proportions to the point of their “loving” cats that are now dessicated under piles of their other dead cats. Think “Munchhausen by Proxy” but using cats for this instead of children.

      You can learn more about another aspect of this by Googling for (include quotes): Cats “Human Territorial Behavior By Expendable Proxy”

      The part you had wrong is about TNR (Trap, Neuter, Re-abandon). Following in my standard-issue prepared reply anytime someone suggests TNR as any kind of a solution anywhere.

      • Woodsman001

        Here’s how these delusional, self-serving, and uneducated TNR-advocates are destroying all life on the planet.

        The TNR CON-GAME

        FACT: Trap & Kill failed because cats cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control.

        FACT: Trap, Neuter, & Re-Abandon (TNR) is an even bigger abject failure because these man-made ecological disasters cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control, and they also continue to cruelly annihilate all native wildlife (from the smallest of prey up to the top predators that are starved to death), and the cats continue to spread many deadly diseases that they carry today — FOR WHICH THERE ARE NO VACCINES AGAINST THEM. Many of which are even listed as bioterrorism agents. (Such as Tularemia and The Plague — Yes, people have already died from cat-transmitted plague in the USA. No fleas nor rats even required. The cats themselves carry and transmit the plague all on their own.)

        FACT: THERE IS ABSOLUTELY _NOTHING_ HUMANE ABOUT TNR. Nearly every last TNR’ed cat dies an inhumane death by road-kill, from cat and animal attacks, environmental poisons, starvation, dehydration, freezing to death, infections, parasites, etc. And if very very lucky humanely shot to death or re-trapped and drowned (the two most common methods employed on all farms and ranches to protect their gestating livestock’s offspring and valuable native wildlife dying from cats’ Toxoplasmosis parasites). This doesn’t begin to count the thousands of defenseless native animals that cats skin alive and disembowel alive for their daily and hourly play-toys. The only difference in destroying cats immediately and humanely instead of trapping, sterilizing, then releasing them to an inhumane death; is that money isn’t going into an HSUS or SPCA board-member’s pocket, veterinarian’s pocket, cat-food company CEO’s pocket, or a drug-company CEO’s pocket. And that’s the ONLY difference!

        FACT: These manipulative, deceptive, and deceitful TNR proponents are now clipping cats ears ONLY. WITHOUT vaccinations nor sterilizing them. They do this to save money and protect their outdoor hoarded cat colonies from being trapped and euthanized by the state because the clipped-ear shows officials that they have been sterilized and vaccinated. Why pay $140 for each cat and all that time when just a trap and a simple snip of scissors on each one can also protect their cats from being destroyed? (I have absolute proof of this.)

        FACT: Cats are a man-made (through selective breeding) invasive species. And as such, are no less of a man-made environmental disaster than any other caused by man. Cats are even worse than an oil-spill of continent-sized proportions. They not only kill off rare and endangered marine-mammals along all coastlines from run-off carrying cats’ Toxoplasma gondii parasites, they destroy the complete food-chain in every ecosystem where cats are found. From smallest of prey gutted and skinned alive for cats’ tortured play-toys, up to the top predators that are starved to death from cats destroying their ONLY food sources. (Precisely what cats caused on my own lands not long ago.)

        FACT: Hunted To Extinction (or in this case, extirpation of all outdoor cats) is the ONLY method that is faster than a species like cats can exponentially out-breed and out-adapt to. Especially a man-made invasive species like these cats that can breed 2X-4X’s faster than any naturally occurring cat-species.

        FACT: In _FOURTEEN_YEARS_ Alley Cat ALL-LIES of NYC have only reduced feral cats in their own city by 0.08% to 0.024% (as the months go on that percentage becomes more insignificant), allowing more than 99.92% to 99.976% to exponentially breed out of control. Here’s how Alley-Cat-ALL-LIES’ deceptive math works: If you TNR 4 cats and 3 get flattened by cars this translates to 75% fewer feral-cats everywhere. Alley Cat ALL-LIES can’t even reduce cats in their own city, yet they promote it as a worldwide solution. Then even bigger fools fall for it and promote it.

        FACT: When researching over 100 of the most “successful” TNR programs worldwide, JUST ONE trapped more than 0.4%. Oregon’s 50,000 TNR’ed cats (the highest rate I found) is 4.9% of all ferals in their state. Yet, by applying population growth calculus on the unsterilized 95.1% they will have trapped only 0.35% of all cats in their state sometime this year. Less than 0.4% is a far cry from the required 75%-85% to be the least bit effective.

        FACT: Their mythical “vacuum effect” is a 100% LIE. A study done by the Texas A&M University proved that any perceived “vacuum” is just the simple case that CATS ATTRACT CATS. Get rid of them all and there’s no cats there to attract more. I proved this myself by shooting and burying hundreds of them on my own lands. ZERO cats replaced them FOR OVER 3 YEARS NOW. If you want more cats, keep even one of them around, more will find you. That university study also found that sterilized cats very poorly defend any territory. Non-sterilized cats, being more aggressive, take over the sterilized cats’ resources (shelter & food if any). If there is any kind of “vacuum effect” at all, it is that sterilizing cats cause non-sterilized cats to restore the reproductive void.

        FACT: During all this investigation I have discovered something that is unfaltering without fail. Something that you can bet your very life on and win every last time. That being — IF A TNR CAT-HOARDER IS TALKING THEN THEY ARE LYING. 100% guaranteed!

  • Angela Fuller

    liker or licker?

  • Angela Fuller

    First i do not own a cat,nor do I want to-but isn’t this story really about a guy discharging a fire arm into 5 little kittens and it was witnessed by children?Not to mention that the mother cat escaped.This isnt about cat-likers or cat-lickers wanting to get that guy fired or woodsman001 wasting way too much energy on this subject which i see as nothing more than attention seeking.This is an old story that got bigger than it needed to be.I’m not a humane officer,but if i was I would have gotten a box,loaded the kittens in their,lied to the kids about finding them all a home(not sending them to kitty-heaven)taken them to the pound or a shelter-end of problem..But remember Woodsman001 the momma cat who might be “America’s most wanted”by now is probably pregnant and could be head your way,i do hope that your surveillance system is working and you might need all 5000 rounds to take her out-good luck

  • Angela Fuller

    It makes me think of that old movie “police academy” Where an old lady said to Officer Tackleberry “my cat is stuck in a tree”whereas Tackleberry pulls out a .45 caliber side arm and says”Don’t worry maa’m I’ll get him out”

  • Joe Smith

    If he didn’t do anything against policy then fine, the policy should be changed but the issue is shooting them around the houses and children, if a rock was just under the ground under those kittens the bullet could ricochet off and killed someone, he should be disciplined for not using his head with the firearm. Just plain stupid of him.