October 31, 2014

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Elyria woman ensnared by cat conundrum

ELYRIA — Annie Hallman walked to the Salvation Army on Saturday afternoon in a slow determined gait with her shoulders hunched slightly.

The non-profit organization is where the 70-year-old frail woman frequents when she wants to get a hot meal she doesn’t have to pay for out of her meager Social Security. But unbeknownst to many others in the food line, Hallman is often seeking something else when she walks in the door of the Broad Street facility — respite from her home that has been overrun with cats.

Hallman knows her home is not perfect. It smells horribly like cat urine. The carpet on the first floor is tattered and stained. There is no heat or hot water. The front screen door is missing a window. But to Hallman, the blue two-story house on Floral Court is her home.

“I moved in this place in March 1997, and I got 16 years of payments here,” she said proudly as she smoked a cigarette, just the one she pulled out of a plastic bag she carries around as a wallet with some loose change and a cell phone.

“I don’t want to leave my house,” she said, her stringy ash-colored hair hanging past her shoulders. “Leaving it would be the last thing I would want to do.”

As Hallman spoke, six cats — young playful kittens and older, more sedentary felines — walked, ran and stretched out on her porch. As soon as she opened the broken front door, a few more scrambled from the hot living room. Another two were escaping the heat of the near 90-degree day in the overgrown grass of her backyard.

“But these cats have got to go,” she said.

No room

It seems like a problem that should have a simple answer.

Hallman no longer wants the 15 cats — or maybe the number is closer to 20, no one has managed to count the entire litter — that has taken over her home. She can’t take care of them. Many of them are strays that take advantage of the broken door and hop right into her house. Yet she has been turned away repeatedly, she said, by animal groups who all say the same thing. They, too, have more cats than they can handle.

However, until Hallman can get the cats out of her home, the improvements she desperately needs to bring the house up to code and keep the city from condemning it as uninhabitable can’t happen.

A plan headed by Holly Huff, coordinator of the Furnace Cascade Block Watch is in place, but everything is contingent on getting rid of the cats.

“We have people who are willing to do what they can to keep this woman in her house. All we need to do is get rid of the cats,” Huff said.

City help could also come Hallman’s way. Kevin Brubaker, a city official with the Building Department, said the woman has submitted an application to the Community Development Department’s emergency home repair program for a new furnace and hot water tank.

“We’ve been monitoring the situation and are working with her,” he said. “She’s a nice lady who gotten overburdened with cats and didn’t know what to do.”

Brubaker said the city has made some calls on how to remove the cats and likewise has been unsuccessful. He said the cats are her biggest obstacle at this point.

Huff, who is a self-proclaimed dog lover, said she has even hit a brick wall.

“I have called every cat person I know, and there is no place to take cats at this time,” she said.

A call to Greg Willey, executive director of the Friendship APL of Lorain County, was not returned. The Friendship APL is the largest animal shelter in Lorain County and operates under a no-kill policy. Currently, they list more than 90 cats and kittens available for adoption on their website compared with just under 50 listed dogs and puppies available for adoption.

Huff said it’s ironic that days after Hallman showed up on her front step desperate for help with a cat problem the North Ridgeville community erupted in outrage over the shooting of five kittens by the city’s humane officer. Most people in the near-downtown neighborhood know well that Huff can make things happen. She can provide a hot meal or offer a warm place to stay with the only requirement being a sincere request from her neighbors. So seeing Hallman was no surprise to Huff.

But the woman’s dilemma has even this seasoned community activist shaking her head.

“I’m not saying someone should come in and shoot the cats, but what are you supposed to do with a bunch of cats that no one wants?” she said. “I mean, I really wish someone would give me an answer because I would like to know what to tell a woman who could lose her house because she can’t get rid of a bunch of cats.”

Too many kitties

So, just how did the cat problem at Hallman’s house get so out of control?

If you ask Hallman, who was described to the world in late October as the woman going through the trash in downtown Elyria in search of cans to supplement her income in the New York Time’s This Land piece, her cat problem started with her now-deceased son. He had three cats and would often feed them on the front porch. That habit attracted more cats to the house, and he would just put more food out as the horde grew.

When he died, Hallman took over feeding the cats.

“She is not incapable of taking care of herself,” Huff said. “It’s just that when her son passed, he left her in a terrible position, and I’m going to say some of it was a heart tug for her, too, because her son loved those cats.”

Huff said people moving out of the neighborhood would also leave cats in Hallman’s yard in the middle of the night. They probably thought the old woman could take care of them all, she said. They were not neutered, and kittens were soon born.

The cats went from the front porch to the house as her home fell in disrepair. Someone tried to break in through a dining room window, leaving the cats a way in. And, then there was the broken front door.

“She was putting food out for her cats, and it’s attracting every cat in the neighborhood,” said Hallman’s neighbor of more than 12 years David Williams. “I’m worried about her health as well. It can’t be good for her with stray cats jumping in and out of her home.”

Williams said he has done much of the work on his home with sweat equity, including the flower bed he planted in memory of his wife who died of cancer several years ago. He has had to shoo away cats from using the bathroom in the mulch.

“I love you to death and would do anything for you,” he said to Hallman as she lingered near a chain-link fence that separated the two homes. “But something has to change. In the past six months, it’s just totally gotten out of control.”
As Hallman walked away, Williams quietly talked of the smell coming from her home. It’s often strong enough to turn his stomach as he sits down for dinner.

“That poor woman needs to get rid of every single one of those cats.” He said.

A city of cats

In a lot of Elyria neighborhoods, the problem of too many cats is not isolated to one person or family that has taken on more than they can handle.

Dozens of cats simply have no home and instead roam the neighborhood from one house to another trying to scrounge up a meal or shelter.

“They don’t belong to anyone,” said 29-year-old Corinne Jaenke of Cornell Avenue. “Not feeding them does not make them go away because once they start a colony, they don’t leave. It’s home to them.”

Jaenke, who moved to the Eastern Heights area from Berea roughly a year and a half ago to be closer to her job and in a neighborhood with better property taxes, estimates there are about 15 to 20 feral and stray cats living in a six- to eight-house radius around her home.

“Some of them are so nasty and sickly,” she said. “There was just one cat that was not fixed and someone let it out. Another cat came and impregnated it, and the cats just started to multiply from there.”

It’s not surprising considering pet population statistics. The ASPCA estimates one female can have on average about 12 kittens each year if not spayed.

With those numbers in mind, Jaenke said she would like the city to fund a trap, neuter/spay and return program in the city.

“To fix all the cats we have now would cost someone like $600, which is too expensive for just one person,” she said. “It wouldn’t be that much of a burden to fix one or two.”

Huff said such programs work.

Four years ago, her street, Phillip Court, had a major cat problem with nearly two dozen cats living between there and Glendale Court. A trap, neuter/spay and return program was instituted using city funds.

“Now, we have just four cats in this neighborhood. It’s great because I can have a nice front porch and come on my porch without having to get three and four cats off my furniture first,” she said.

In 2009. Mitch Witherell headed the city’s Animal Control Committee and was instrumental in convincing Elyria Council to fund the program. Trap, neuter/spay and release programs are the most humane way to control the population, he said at the time.

Stray cats are a healthy part of the ecosystem, he said, and do a great job of controlling the rodent population that would itself grow out of control. The key, though, is to have the right number of strays.

Hallman said she would never turn the cats out for the neighborhood to deal with them completely. It wouldn’t be fair to the rest of the residents, but she wonders what’s fair to her. She wants to enjoy her home, cat-free.

“They are days I just want to walk out of here and keep going,” she said. “Then, I say to myself, ‘Where would you go, Annie? The cats will have a home and you won’t.’ ”

Contact Lisa Roberson at 329-7121 or lroberson@chroniclet.com.


  • Brian_Reinhardt

    I hear the Accorti Kitten Control Consortium has a very effective and inexpensive method of ridding homeowners of those dangerous disease ridden wild animals.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1762437349 Melissa Merrill Snyder

      Once you have a ‘colony’, the only way to truly manage it is through Trap/neuter (Spay)/return programs. Simply moving a cat or cats out just allows more to move in. Feeding stray and feral cats without TNR is encouraging the cats to stay and reproduce.

      • TheDon Corleone

        Once you have a ‘colony’, the only true way to be rid of them is to exterminate them, like cockroaches.

        • guest

          Hey Woodslicker, Doesn’t it bother a Republican like you that the taxpayers are going to be footing the bill to fix up this woman’s house. She’s one of the 47%….

          • Nancy Mcdougal

            this womans house getting fixed up is not coming out of some “taxpayer fund”. a group of citizens volunteer to help people, everything that will be done is donated by these individuals.

          • guest

            Are they going to pay her utility bills too? That’s what I am talking about.

          • Nancy Mcdougal

            There are people out there that are willing to help people in need. Obviously this woman is in need, it had to be very difficult for her to ask for help. If she has utilities that she needs help catching up on then my guess would be that they will help her as much as they can. This amazing group of people will see to it that she gets the help and continuing emotional support that she needs.

    • Brian_Reinhardt

      Some of you need to see sarcasm when you read it…

    • Woodsman001

      There’s a new movement, in protest of how cat-lickers are treating Accorti with their standard-issue net-bullying tactics.

      To show support for Accorti everyone is now shooting at least 1 stray cat per day until this nonsense of cat-lickers hijacking the lives, homes, and lands of everyone else in the world with their invasive-species vermin cats comes to an end

      If everyone shot just one cat per day that should start to put a dent in the ecological disaster and human-health disaster that these cat-lickers have caused and perpetuate.

      Spread the word.

      • hottamomma

        i agree, i think im gonna go to that lady and take a cat or two and shot it, thanks for the great idea!!!

        • Woodsman001

          I was feeling bad. I thought I wouldn’t get to add any Accorti-Cats to the movement in support of him. Having been so successful at eradicating hundreds of cats 4 years ago. Not seeing one since. And what magically appears in my yard today?! An Accorti-Cat! (The squirrel-alarms started sounding loud and clear so I grabbed the rifle and headed outside.) One shot and it bolted about 10 feet and dropped dead.

          Before burying it I checked and it was a nursing mother. Every teat in use. So when the kittens in the woods somewhere start crying later; they’ll make a nice treat for any one of the mother raccoons, foxes, skunks, opossum, etc. that have been ambling through my yard every day, evening, and night. (They like to come by and show off their kits/cubs to me each whelping season, to get their yearly vitamin-fortified treat for a few days. I think they do it to show their kids where to come for an emergency if ever need be. Some of the mothers even taking a much needed snooze belly-up in the yard, using me as their free babysitter. I feel so used sometimes. :-) But since it’s only for a few days each year, I love it!)

          Anyway, since that cat was a full-on nursing mother, can I count that as at least a week’s worth of Accorti-Cats? I think so! :-)

          Better those kittens should starve to death or become some other animal’s snack; than all the dozens and dozens and dozens of infant raccoons, opossum, skunks, foxes, birds, snakes, etc. that would have starved to death from just that ONE cat.

          A VERY successful day. My lands are back to 100% cat-free again, and I also got to do something in honor of a persecuted saint — Officer Accorti.

          • hottamomma

            thats wonderful! great job!

      • guest

        Hey I see you have a couple of Woods-licker followers.

        • Woodsman001

          Here’s yet another good example of why cat-lickers are WAY dumber than their cats. They’re trying to insult the people who are holding guns against the heads of their cats. Like we need any MORE encouragement!?!? LOL

          Such a smart move!

          There’d be a good cartoon-strip in that. :-) Cat with a gun being held to its head while the cat’s lover is on the phone hurling insults and daring that their cat be shot. LOL

          (Aside: Though I must admit, I was having such a good success with instant deaths by using fatal chest-shots (always less than 3 seconds, 1 second common) that I just kept using that method. Plus, due to the field-conditions they were all shot in, it is easier for a cat to turn its head at the last moment than it’s whole body. So the chest is always a more sure target. Then I read in the “U of N”‘s study how a head-shot would be better and tried it one day. A perfect shot between the eyes, the cat wasn’t more than about 25 ft. away, an easy shot, laser-dot offset about 1/2 inch to be certain, a dead-on shot — and it wouldn’t die! Took 5 more shots to the brain at point-blank range and still it wouldn’t die. Gave up wasting bullets on its head and gave it a chest shot — instant death. This is why I believe that cats survive now more by their reptilian brain-stem than any unused gray-matter that is above it (probably the same way cat-lickers survive). I now surmise that this too is the origin of the 9-lives myth. People trying to kill them with head-traumas. There isn’t anything in a cat’s head that is vital to their survival! (Not unlike cat-lickers.) )

  • Roxanne

    start putting ads on craigs list the kittens would be easy to place the adults might be harder. See if a local vet can put down the elderly and sick ones free or at cost. See about getting them fixed and contacting some farm owners who would like a barn cat or two. Its a heartbreaking situation that I was in many years ago. I would personally take a kitten if I could afford it.

    • Ginnie Hahne Thorburn

      Kittens on Craigslist should ONLY be put on there if you charge a small fee to adopt them. Otherwise it is too easy for them to become BAIT for Pit Bull fighting…..

      • TheDon Corleone

        They also make great catfish bait as well.

        You just need to put them in a plastic bag to rot a bit in the hot sun.

        • Ginnie Hahne Thorburn

          You are a sick man. Not funny at all.

    • Woodsman001

      People who run those criminally negligent “barn cat programs” for feral and stray cats and then go dump them off on unsuspecting people in the country are only adding to the cat-shooting quotas of cats in rural areas. Don’t you think that people in rural areas have enough problems with trying to keep their OWN invasive-species vermin cat populations under control without idiots like you sending out MORE of them? This is precisely why I had to shoot and bury HUNDREDS of these mangy invasive-species vermin, from cat-lickers who moved to the country, thinking they could set up cute cat-retirement sanctuaries. Well, their cats are all permanently retired now, 2-3 feet under for each. And and every last one got a “loving forever home” just like you cat-lickers always want.

      Contrary to cat-lovers’ lies, feral and stray cats that are dumped in rural areas DO NOT STAY WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN DUMPED. That’s why they spend their lives trying to get back to their points of origin. And even if someone is lucky enough to train one or two to return to their roost in the morning, all night long they are out in the countryside annihilating all the valuable native wildlife. OR being attracted right to the sights of my rifle, as the last several hundred in my area were. (I found a way to turn my home and land into a 100% fatal cat-trap by using IR surveillance cameras and baiting trails of fish-oils along all the roadsides to a feeding dish within range of my laser-sighted rifle. This can totally clean-out ANY stray cats for miles around. VERY EFFECTIVE if you have a cat-licking, ecology-destroying, idiot problem-neighbors by you too.)

      For ANY ONE OF YOU to suggest that you trap feral and stray cats and then go dump them off on some unsuspecting fool in the country makes you NO LESS CRIMINALLY IRRESPONSIBLE than ANYONE who does the same, no matter if the cats are sterilized or not!

  • Guest

    But wait….People were coming out of the woodwork saying they would have taken the kittens in Ridgeville. Where are all of these people? I’m confused. You mean…..they won’t really take cats into their own homes or shelters?? Gasp.

    • Ginnie Hahne Thorburn

      It’s a shame that this woman waited this long to ask for help. WHERE was SHE when she only had THREE? She did not do her part by getting her cats fixed, as ANY RESPONSIBLE pet owner should do.

      • TheDon Corleone

        Don’t worry, help is on the way soon.

      • brazen

        i have a colony of feral cats living under my deck. I didn’t ask for them to be there, and it should not be MY responsibility to get them spayed, neutered, and released somewhere else. But there they are, and I have called all over Lorain County asking for help with them but NO ONE here wants to help. I am finally getting some hope from the Cleveland TNR program. My point is this…… you don’t know that she did not ask for help before this. No one in Lorain County wants to help. They are full, they do not have a TNR program, the reasons go on and on.

        • Ginnie Hahne Thorburn

          She didn’t have to ASK for help, she should be able to handle the situation on her own. These were HER cats, her sons cats….HER pets to take care of…….and she allowed the situation to get our of control ON HER OWN. So, yet, it was her responsibility. I do feel for you with the problem under your deck, and I am sorry that you were unable to get help.

        • Woodsman001

          Uh, it seems they didn’t quite explain TNR to you. You’re not getting rid of the cats, you get them right back and get to feed them, take care of them, and pay for any required vet-bills until they die. Since they are on YOUR property, they are now legally YOUR responsibility once a TNR program returns them to you. If you DON’T take care of them, then you can be charged with animal-neglect and animal-abuse.

          This is how it’s been working across the whole nation.

          You should have read my “The TNR CON-GAME” list. (Google for it if you haven’t.)

          What part of the word “return” in Trap, Neuter, RETURN did you fail to comprehend?

          Tsk tsk.

          • Liane T

            In the TNR (Trap, Neuter, ReLEASE) program, they tip the ear of the cats they fix to identify them as stray and they are free to live as a wild animal without any further intervention from humans-ie no further responsibility to the animals.

          • Woodsman001

            WRONG. The ONLY way that TNR can be allowed legally is if the cats are given food, shelter, and water (albeit outdoors now). Otherwise TNR is illegal under ALL pre-existing animal welfare laws in every state.

            Why do you TNR cat-c_nt-lickers lie all the time? Don’t you think we already know all about you and how you operate?

            Or are you claiming that ALL TNR programs are operating outside of the law where you live? Is that the case? Then EVERY TNR colony of yours needs to be destroyed — today!

          • Woodsman001

            Here’s another fun aspect of TNR that TNR LIARS never bother to tell anyone, except for telling fellow TNR liars.

            Not long ago I learned that TNR cat-hoarders practice a form of “TNR-On-A-Budget” (my name for it). TNR cat-hoarders who want to keep feeding their cats but can’t afford all that tedious mucking-about and getting them sterilized or vaccinated just trap the cats and clip the cats’ ears themselves. Then release them again right after clipping their ears. Doing their best to hide all evidence of where they keep these colonies and telling few about them. This way the cat if trapped again just gets released right there so the cat-hoarder can continue to dote-over and feed their unsterilized and unvaccinated cats. Plus everyone else who might happen on their secret cat-hoarding locations thinks those cats are sterilized and vaccinated so they have fewer concerns about them still overbreeding or spreading deadly diseases. The TNR cat-hoarder feeder just tells them, “Oh, don’t worry. See that clipped ear? They are sterilized and vaccinated. Perfectly fine and legal!”

            Thanks to these “TNR-On-A-Budget” psychotics, clipped-eared cats must be trapped and euthanized or destroyed on-site — the only affordable and sane solution for everyone.

            Here’s proof, post taken from (Google for: “chris cook” “story_fbid=295067530554567″ (include quotes))

            “Chris Cook
            We had a culling of the neighborhood cats 2 years ago when there were only 10 or so (I lost 4 under my care in the same week). Now there’s over 25 – that I know about (about half fixed)… it’s just a matter of time before someone decides they have the ‘solution’ to the cat ‘problem’. All I can do is get them tipped (in case Animal Services gets them, there’s a small chance they’ll release them back to the area they caught them) and hope for the best by making my own yard a hidden sanctuary of sorts. At least my HOA knows I’m TNRing them and not just feeding them so they (for now) look the other way while slamming the feeders-and-breeders who contributed to the problem getting out of hand and refusing any and all offers of assistance.”

            Not only is this criminally irresponsible TNR practitioner hoarding and feeding unsterilized cats, they even attracted MORE cats to keep reproducing — which again disproves their oft-spewed “vacuum effect” LIE. While also lying to their HOA to boot. They even believe that what they are doing _is_ TNR, that’s just how demented these people are. I’d say this person reflects the norm rather than the exception, since TNR advocates relentlessly lie about so much and so often.

            Hint: for those permanently solving cat-hoarder’s ILLEGAL TNR invasive-species colonies by stepping up their rate of “attrition” (i.e. death by any means necessary); look around for any game/field/trail-cameras that might be hidden from immediate view, then collect them as a souvenir and payment for your well-deserved efforts. As we all know, the only thing worse than having a feral cat colony around, is drawing TNR psychotics right to your home. Google: Loews Hotels Feral Cats, if you don’t believe me, and see what these whack-jobs did to them.

            Here’s another recent replay of the same thing that these cat-lover-sociopaths did to Loews Hotels: (Google for: cats venice complex reprieve )

            A $150 million renovation project for low-income housing, put on hold, jobs lost, money lost, homeless still homeless, court costs and lawyers, just to save a few of their feral vermin cRats. And the saddest part of all, the vast majority of these TNR’ed cats had already died heinous inhuman deaths from TNR-practitioners’ “death by attrition” re-abandonment philosophy. (Road-kill, diseases, parasites, injuries, environmental poisons, cat & animal attacks, exposure, etc. etc. Their all-encompassing feel-good blinders-on term of “death by attrition”.)

            This is precisely why everyone is learning to destroy all cats on their properties as quickly and quietly as possible. Telling nobody beforehand about the cats even being there. Long before these cat-lover psychotics get wind of the cats. Shoot cats first, tell no-one later. The only thing worse than feral cats, are feral cat-lovers. You can legally shoot the former, not the latter. You need to pay lawyers and courts to get rid of the latter. THEN you can get rid of their cats. And the sad part is, that’s EXACTLY what happens, each and every time. People are wising-up. If ANY cats are around they destroy every last one of them first, before they make any other move.

    • Guest

      Maybe because people aren’t mind readers and have just found out about it.

  • Tamra Tury

    Finally! Some reality instead of the boo hoo poor little kitty stories we’ve been reading here repeatedly!
    Now lets see how many people who complained step up to help. I’m not holding my breath..lol
    Thank You Lisa Roberson!

    • Ginnie Hahne Thorburn

      Obviously, Tamara….you are not a cat lover……

      • Zen Grouch

        Being a true cat lover…

        …exactly how many cats have you signed up to take off poor Mother Hubbard’s hands?

        **…does NONE sound about right?**

    • critterkid

      I agree! Don’t whine about poor little kitty cats (with diseases and fleas) if you are not willing to take them into your home! Feral cats are not “pets”,
      they are a nuisance! Good luck catching them without getting scatched and bitten!

    • Joe Smith

      Is this the same Tamra who boo hoos over people keeping wild animals?
      Practice what you preach

  • Ginnie Hahne Thorburn

    THREE cats could have been JUST THAT…..three….if this woman would have taken advantage of the MANY low cost spaying/neutering programs that are available right in this area. The amount she would have spent for that is far less than she is spending on cat food now. I have no patience or sympathy for this mentality. And now she wants to make is someone else’s problem. The time to have gotten this under control was when she had THREE.

    • are you really humane?

      to all of you who cried your outrage over killing 5 feral kittens and are trying to get an officer who broke no laws fired, and to all of you who organized to clear out Ohio pet placements animals when Ms. Luli never asked for your help… WHERE ARE YOU NOW? not in Elyria where an elderly woman needs help. with cats. cats that will make good pets. SHAME ON YOU,SHAME ON ALL OF YOU! come out of your politically correct, sanitized for your protection, let somebody else do the dirty work world and actually do some good on behalf of cats and help an old woman keep her home!

    • learn to read

      you apparently missed the part where she is super poor and cant afford anything. also, the cats arent hers to begin with…..but you must have missed that part too.

      • guest

        She can still afford cigarettes…

        • hottamomma

          cigarettes is obviously more important then cats

          • Woodsman001

            They most CERTAINLY ARE where I live! I’d walk a mile to shoot a cat for a Camel ®. :-) HeII, I’d walk a mile to shoot a cat (and have done so many times in eradicating them from my lands) even if it weren’t for a Camel ®. Just because a cat exists. That’s all the reason I need. That’s why I don’t have any cat problems in my world today … too bad everyone else can’t say the same. You think they’d learn from this simple lesson. :-)

            (aside: Actually I’ve been hand-rollin’ my own all my life, but a Camel-straight ® is a nice treat. :-) )

    • guest

      She did to tnr on her sons 3 cats, but others left their cats behind in the neighborhood when they moved, and they became the problem. The low cost spay program still cost and when you live on SSI, $300 is alot to spend on others animals. She tried getting the cats left behind into shelters but no one would take them. Shelters or full.

      • Ginnie Hahne Thorburn

        TNR is $25.00 at the facility I have dealt with.

        • Zen Grouch

          Yeah… and I remember paying 32 cents for a gallon of gas.

    • hottamomma

      thats the problem, most (not all) cat owners dont take responsibility for there cats

  • TheDon Corleone

    I shall pay her a visit, all you cat lickers can count on that.

    And if she wants to give the cats away, I shall take them to my home
    and give them just what they need.

    I can’t wait to help this poor old woman.

    • Ginnie Hahne Thorburn

      You should be reported for offering to abuse and exterminate. I am hping that the Chronicle reads all of your snarky postings and has a little talk with you. YOU are to be feared.

    • guest

      You learned cat lickers from the bird licker, Jim Stevenson . Are you the same person?

    • TRB SR

      Mr. godfather wannabee; if your bad self can make it in and out of that neighborhood in one piece ‘paying her a visit’ then do your dirty deed. You apparently don’t know Elyria or Annie. I used to take her to work at a nursing home for years at 5:30 AM. She is getting old and has lost two sons w/in the past 10 yrs. She worked until she could barely walk. She just needs a little help. I don’t know about you.

      • guest

        She sounds like a great lady that got in over her head. TheDon has grabbed onto to Jim Stevenson’s shirt tails because TheDon can’t think for himself. Jim Stevenson is also Woodsman. Seems he shot into his house and tried to blame it on the cat people. The police asked him to be tested for gun residue on his hands. Well what do you know, the coward refused.

        • Woodsman001

          So far these net-stalking cat-licking psychotics have tried to convince everyone that I am any of 5 to 8 different people that cat-lickers have always hated. They’ve been wrong on all counts, and are still wrong on all counts. They don’t even know what continent I reside in let alone anything else about me. (Ah, the joys of knowing proxy-trains.) I keep telling them my name is Rumpelstiltskin, but they won’t believe that either. LOL

          It’s been fun. They always reveal themselves to be the net-stalking psychotics that they truly are. I don’t even have to tell anyone that, they are more than happy to prove it to the world all by themselves. (Cat-lickers are never too bright. That’s why even a cat can outsmart them to escape their confinement. Dumber than a cat.)

          Here’s the funny part … every time they threaten to do something about me, I wonder why they are wasting so many empty threats on someone they can’t even find and don’t even know who I am. (I guess it’s safe, then they can keep using the pitiful excuse that they can’t find me.) When today, this very hour, they can go after an even more famous cat-killer and find out right where he lives, this very moment, to stop him, his family, and all his friends from shooting thousands of more cats than I’ve ever shot and buried. Let’s see them put some action behind those empty words of theirs.

          http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/dec/3/the-time-for-kitty-killing-has-come/

          Cat-lickers’ threats are as empty and meaningless as their lives and minds. It’s fun to call them out on it. LOL

      • Michele From Ohio

        Thank you for your kindness.

    • hottamomma

      you would do this world a favor if you do that, everyone that is against u, i dont c them taking a step to help. im with you, lights out cats!!!!

      • TheDon Corleone

        Thanks momma. I have a busy day planned for today.

  • Danyel Hite Bailey

    All the animal lovers hanging outside protesting at north ridge ville city hall needs to go get all of them instead of complaining about the officer killing some dangerous cats ,go help this lady.

    • guest

      If people help with the cats are you going to help her get her house fixed up? Pay to get her gas and water turned back on?

      • Nancy Mcdougal

        Once all of the cats are gone there is already a plan in place to help this woman get her house fixed up and to assist in her utilities.

        • guest

          Assist yes but she will need help down the line.

          • Nancy Mcdougal

            If and when that time comes then she knows who to contact for help. Everybody falls on bad times, lets give this woman some credit. Once she gets back on her feet she will be just fine.

    • TheDon Corleone

      They do not want to help. Just moan and cry.

      • Woodsman001

        It goes with being a cat-licker. I don’t know of one cat-licker on earth that doesn’t wail and cry and blame the world when their cat gets flattened by a car. NEVER ONCE realizing that the death of their cat was THEIR OWN DAMN FAULTS. I laugh every time a cat-licker cries about their road-killed or poisoned or shot-dead cat. Wouldn’t have happened if they actually cared about that animal! (They use their cats like animal-sacrifices to manipulate and control others, no lie!)

        It’s called “self-victimization”. Quite a popular manipulation tactic that was invented in the Middle-East to manipulate and control all those and the world-around them. But it’s so last-century by today’s standards. And it often doesn’t work anymore now that everyone knows what kind of person uses it and how and why it works. When they try, just say, “Sucks to be you!” and walk away laughing. LOL

  • Zen Grouch

    We need to bring back the ‘poor houses’ and orphanages from a bygone era.

    If someone is so unable to take care of themselves that they need city assistance in keeping a working furnace and water heater in their home, along with glass in the win’ders, they would be a perfect candidate for the ‘poor house.’

    Notice she’s mooching off everyone, yet has the cash to keep a few smokes stashed away in a baggie along with her CELL PHONE!

    Anyway, I’ve eaten cat in Mexico and it wasn’t bad at all. I’m sure a half way decent cook at a poor house could kill two birds with one stone if given the chance.

    **…btw, well constructed story Lisa Roberson**

    • Nancy Mcdougal

      Would you feel the same way if it was you in this situation? Water heaters, furnaces and glass break. It is easy to judge other people when you have what they dont. I really hope you never have anything break on you, wouldnt want judgmental people to jump to conclusion about you and want to send you to a “poor house”.

      • Zen Grouch

        Apparently what this woman doesn’t have, are any friends or family who care enough to look in on her and take note of her filthy and dangerous living conditions.

        If one day I’d find myself up to my elbows in cats and up to my ankles in eye watering, nose stinging feces I would hope someone would toss a net over me and drag my wrinkled keester off to the poor house, or a reasonable facsimile.

  • Greg White

    I am wondering how many of the cat people that are protesting in North Ridgeville will step up and adopt any of these cats? It will be interesting to see if the animal nuts truly love animals or just want to protest and get a man fired

  • Liane T

    Who said people aren’t reaching out to this lady’s cat situation- after all, the story only posted YESTERDAY??? Even the Cleveland TNR program has a waiting list for appointments. Unless they are able to create extra time in their day, these animals will have to wait their turn.

  • hottamomma

    larry crnobrnva will take them call him

    • Diane

      Just amazing how many psychologically disturbed frustrated serial killers come crawling out of the woodwork whenever there is a story like this.Just an observation.

      • hottamomma

        feral cat killers not serial killers. but i bet since u r a cat licker u r psychologically disturbed and would think they r the same

        • Diane

          Yawn, snore.

          • hottamomma

            ha ha ha aha aha aha. thats exactly what i said when they killed the 3 kittens

      • guest

        Right and they’re proud of it. Just being cruel is all they know. Probably the way they were raised.

    • Bob Sweatt

      Yeah it’s funny. I don’t see that D. Bag Larry or the dumba$$ Debbie on this page talking about taking these cats. Kind of funny. I guess they are all talk about dead kittens but want nothing to do with live ones that they can help out.

      Funny how all that works.

      Debbie and Larry. Put up or shut up.

      • Debbie Zsigray

        I am here A$$ wipe. if you think you know it all, then you come and help this lady if you know where she Nobody knew that she needed help , Oh yes I believe if she knew that you want kill those cats she will tell you to leave. And if I was you, (BETTER YET) I am glad that I am not you. If you think you can do better OK, OK Then you go and help her if you think you know where she lives!!BETTER YET PUT UP OR SHUT UP. You need to take your own advice.

        • Bob Sweatt

          Why me. I am not a cat lover.

          And funny I didn’t see you saying anything about helping. Just excuses about not knowing where she lives. I knew you were all talk.

          Don’t turn this on me. You were the one saying how they should have handled the north ridgeville cat thing. Now here is your chance and all I read is excuses.

          All talk, just like I thought.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            Why me. I am not a cat lover. Yes We Gather that, You been saying since The story of the killing of 5 BABY KITTEHS.

            And funny I didn’t see you saying anything about helping. Bob, I will if I can, I am disable that gives me excuse, Just excuses about not knowing where she lives. I DO NOT KNOW WHERE SHE LIVES AT ALL.. I knew you were all talk. I am not all talk,, YOU ARE ALL TALK AND NO ACTION

            Don’t turn this on me. I AM NOT TURNING ANYTHING ON BOB….You were the one saying how they should have handled the north ridgeville cat thing. YES I HAVE SAYING HE NEEDS TO ANSWER THE FACT HE KILLED 5 BABY KITTENS WITHOUT IF THEY DID OR DID NOT HAVE ANY HERTH PROBLEM BEFORE HE KILLED THEM ,HE ALSO NEED TO ANSWER TO FACT HE SHUT A GUN WHERE ARE PEOPLE AND CHILDREN SAFETLY AT RISK. Now here is your chance and all I read is excuses.

            All talk, just like I thought. LIKE I SAID I AM NOT ALL TALK AND FOR YOUR 411 BOB.ALL I DO READ FROM YOU AND THOSE WHO IS SAYING NASTY THINGS ABOUT US WHO LOVE CATS,OH DO NOT GET ME WRONG I LOVE DOGS…I HAS DOGS GROWING UP ALL MY LIFE. AND I HAVE A CAT. I KNOW THAT YOU LOVE DOGS (AM I RIGHT) BOB?

          • Bob Sweatt

            Your out of your ever-loving mind. Did you not read my comment about “If anyone on here knows this woman to hit me up on Facebook.” THAT DOING SOMETHING you mental midget. Again you are only reading what you want to read.

            Again. you used you status as a cat lover. Like everyone else did to try and get sympathy for your cause against the humane officer.

            Ok you are disabled. I get that. But I still don’t see a comment on here saying you would take one of the cats. Just a sentence saying, If you can you will. Nice commitment.

            Like I said. I don’t see anyone who was complaining about what happen in N.R. on this page offering their help. Like you they all just want to complain about the problems in society. But when it comes down to doing anything to fix the problem. All I hear are crickets.

            It’s like this. Do something to fix the problems or shut the “F” up.

          • Bob Sweatt

            What does it matter what kind of animal I like. That has nothing to do with the fact that you wont help the problem.

          • Guest

            Here is the my comment you must have missed yesterday. Pretty funny how you did see it but 6 people liked it.

            “That’s your excuse. I know you were all talk.

            Anyone who knows this woman and needs my help after all the vermon are gone. Hit me up with a message on Facebook and I will come help on anyway I can.”

          • Bob Sweatt

            Here’s an excuse for you. I am a single father of two kids. One of which is developmently disabled. And I will probably have to pay a babysitter when I go to help this lady out.

            Quick being the problem and be the solution.

        • Bob Sweatt

          I don’t lnow where she live.

          That’s your excuse. I know you were all talk.

          Anyone who knows this woman and needs my help after all the vermon are gone. Hit me up with a message on Facebook and I will come help on anyway I can.

          • Bob Sweatt

            Well Debbie. We are all waiting. Where’s you request for information about this woman?

            Like I said. You are all talk and no action.

        • Bob Sweatt

          Just what I figured. Dead silence from you and Larry.

          Guess you are all talk and no action.

          Like I said below. You were only complaining about what was done in North Ridgeville. You won’t do anything to help out these living cats.

          Go ahead and try to turn this one me again. Everyone knows your true colors now.

          Told you, you wouldn’t win.
          I know you saw my post offering to help this poor woman. But almost a day later and still nothing from you.

          All talk. Guess the only thing you can do is complain about everything. But never do anything to fix the problem.

  • Phil Blank

    The neighbor was feeding wild cats and she ended-up with skunks!

    • Zen Grouch

      The food & water I give the feral colony established in my back yard attracts night critters, like raccoons, ‘possums and skunks.

      The cats just had to be sprayed once over a decade ago, to quickly learn, the skunks should be given plenty of space. Through the years they’ve retained that one lesson, learned the hard way.

      The next door neighbor’s dogs are another story. They are some really dumb animals that become enraged every time the skunks show up and stand there at the fence barking like maniacs, just to be hosed with a healthy stream of skunk juice square in their stupid faces, over and over again like they enjoy temporary blindness and respiratory distress.

  • Humane Friend

    People from the local humane community started working on this situation last week when they first learned about the problem. People have already visited this house and are taking the cats to the veterinarian Tuesday. It takes some time to arrange capture, transportation, and treatment for 15 cats.

    • Woodsman001

      We gladly await to see photos of all the online cat-lickers, who complain about people shooting feral cats, with one of these cats in their arms and heading home to take care of it in a “forever home” and not just dumped back out on the streets (as they do with TNR cats). Because if they do dump them on the streets? You might as well euthanize them now before I or someone else shoots them and you’ve only ended-up wasting all that time and money for nothing.

    • Zen Grouch

      I’m looking forward to a follow up story…

  • Ann Onnie Moose

    Let’s see all the people who are so angered at the NR officer come forward and take a cat or two. C’mon people, speak up and step forward to be part of the “cure”! *dead silence* Yep, just as I thought.

    • Bob Sweatt

      I saw this story and was monitoring these comments. So far all I see from the cat lovers is NOTHING. Not one post from any of them about offering to take even one of these cats.

      It looks like I and several other people were right. They were only complaining about what was done in North Ridgeville and using their status as a cat lover to get sympathy for their cause.