July 28, 2014

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North Ridgeville Council sets policy on feral cats

NORTH RIDGEVILLE — Renewed calls for the firing of Humane Officer Barry Accorti and changes in the way the city deals with feral cats were partially answered at Monday night’s City Council meeting.

After hearing from approximately a dozen people, most opposing Accorti’s fatal shooting of five feral kittens June 10, Mayor David Gillock announced the city will no longer respond to calls for help in dealing with cats with police or city humane officers.

Instead, the city will provide traps for residents who wish to try to take care of feral cats themselves, or provide assistance through local animal shelters and animal rescue groups.

“We have met two times with the Friendship Animal Protective League to work with them on reviewing and revising our policies relating to unwanted animals,” Gillock told a number of residents and others who remained after a 30-minute public comment session.

Gillock also told the audience that the APL would be made available to assist residents requesting help with large numbers of cats.

“The city will no longer take the action of killing cats,” Gillock said.

His remarks were met with the same loud applause that earlier met remarks by those demanding Accorti’s firing or answers as to why city officials — including Gillock — had not responded to calls from angry residents and others upset over the incident.

Between 15 and 20 protestors, some carrying signs, quietly stood along state Route 83 outside City Hall during the meeting.

Light rain fell before, during and after the meeting, which some felt may have contributed to keeping down the number of people who turned out.

The scene was a far cry from that of two weeks ago when City Council and officials heard from approximately 30 people for 90 minutes during an emotional public comment session.

Shellie Kearsey, a North Ridgeville resident, asked why the city was continuing to defend “this monster you employ” with public funds.

Accorti shot the kittens in response to a homeowner’s request for help in getting rid of the animals that lived in a backyard wood pile and were causing problems with fleas and odors.

Others, including Pat Fogo of the Lorain Pooch Patrol, again offered to help the city begin a trap-neuter-release program that works to eventually reduce number of feral cats by removing them from areas where they are plentiful, neutering them and returning them to the same areas where they can no longer reproduce.

Carrie Graham, of Pet Rescue of Lorain County, argued the kittens Accorti shot were partially domesticated.

“Feral animals are wild, like raccoons and others, and wouldn’t have let him get that close,” Graham said in pressing for Accorti’s dismissal.

“Why not use the (salary) for Accorti and create a TNR program,” Graham said.

Patti Harris, a Cleveland woman and veteran of animal rescues, said she felt empathy for Accorti.

“I come from a family of law enforcement officers,” Harris said.

Chris Swenk, a North Ridgeville man, offered strongly-worded support for Accorti, and condemnation of those opposing him.

“It is tragic that one incident should mar the stellar career of this officer because outside activists who don’t even live here have an agenda,” Swenk said.

Swenk also blasted those who have protested the shootings.

“People are out of touch with reality,” Swenk said. “They should care about real problems” including drugs and kids, overcrowded schools, traffic and flooding.

Gillock also announced that a community action committee would be formed to assist residents with problems with feral animals and to provide city officials with information to help them better deal with such situations in the future.

The Ohio Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals had threatened to sue the city unless it agreed to change its policies regarding feral cats and fired Accorti.

Police Chief Michael Freeman cleared Accorti of any wrongdoing shortly after the incident, saying he acting according to regulations.

Contact Steve Fogarty at 329-7146 or sfogarty@chroiclet.com.

  • TheDon Corleone

    Good. Let the cat licking morons catch them. I promise you every one that falls into one of my traps will be destroyed on the spot.

  • hottamomma

    dont worry we citizens will help get rid of the feral cat population!!!

    • Bob Sweatt

      That’s what I am saying. All this does is turn normal people into humane officers. And I hate tell all your cat/animal lovers. The normal citizen wouldn’t waste their time calling for traps. They will take care of the problem the easiest way they can come up with.

      I am going to put the Like and Dislike buttons to use.

      Like: if you will call for traps.

      Dislike: if you will take care of it yourself.

      • hottamomma

        good one bob!!!!!!:)

  • Spec440

    I can’t wait to watch all these homeowners that are stuck with cats in a trap try to give them to shelters. Haha. All they are going to do is take them to a different neighborhood and let them go, making it someone else’s problem. Accorti should be given a raise for dealing with all of these idiots.

  • Larry Crnobrnja

    It’s good to see NR came up with a reasonable and humane solution. Of course it wouldn’t have happened if THE PEOPLE didn’t voice their displeasure in Accorti, Freeman and Gillock.

    The question still remains, why did Andy let Barney carry more than one bullet?

    • Woodsman001

      Hey Larry! There you are! Were you busy adopting all those cats that nobody can find homes for and are suffering to death? We await your photo with dozens of newly adopted cats in your arms. LOL

  • woodpile5member97

    obviously all of the negative comments regarding the new city policy on cat issues come from the uneducated.

    • Spec440

      Anyone with “Woodpile5″ in their name instantly loses credibility with me.

    • Spec440

      Also, obviously the complete lack of capitalization and punctuation come from the uneducated. Be careful throwing those big heavy stones. I wouldn’t want you to hurt yourself.

  • deramani

    As “agendas” go, humane treatment of animals (which the recently passed Nitro Law indicates a shift in our society towards) and the responsible use of firearms in the domestic sector by law enforcement officers are ones that we should all care about, regardless of who brings them up or where they are from. If the speaker’s address is the only thing that can be found as wrong, perhaps they have a more valid argument than you are willing to admit.

  • Joe Smith

    Petty of them but thats what you can expect from a politician

  • Bob Sweatt

    Dear god here we go again. You all have fun debating this nonsense.

    • Debbie Zsigray

      What is the matter Bob Sweatt, You can not take the truth? You can not handle it? I knew it, You full of BS and Stream.

      • Bob Sweatt

        I figured you would be happy. You all got what you wanted. Reform of the animal laws in NR.

        Why are you attacking me?? And what truth are you referring to??

        • Debbie Zsigray

          It is not we got what we wanted, it is the way he did it not take the kittens to someone who can help them to get a good home. and I am not trying to attack you.truth that I am talking about is the fact that you all know the cats that will be safe. That the truth that I am talking bout Bob. Here is the thing I am not going to get in to it with you all today.

          • Bob Sweatt

            It’s funny how you are naive enough to think that cats are now safe.

          • Woodsman001

            Does anyone need me to repost the myriad ways that ANYONE can LEGALLY destroy every last cat in their area for miles around? Let me know. :-)

          • hottamomma

            the cats r in more harm now, cause the people that calls the humane officer to get him, they cant do it anymore, so they will take matter into their own hands and kill them their self. so really u guys made it worse for the feral cats!!

          • Joe Smith

            How are they less dead if the so called humane officer shoots them or the landowner does?

        • Spec440

          The funniest part of this whole thing is nothing really changes. NRPD never handled cat calls before. Accorti said he wasn’t supposed to handle the call but did her a favor. I called them for a single feral cat that kept peeing in my garage. They said they don’t handle them and apologized to me. It was a real shame what happened to that cat.

      • Bob Sweatt

        Truth is and this is funny. You actually think that people will call for trap to take care of the cats. I would be willing to bet, that 85% of the people in NR will just put out a bowl of anti-freeze to take care of the cat problem.

        • hottamomma

          bowl of anti freeze is what i will do.

          • Woodsman001

            Nope. Not safe for all other species of animals. There are dozens of better (and even less expensive) options that are much more species-specific. I believe I posted them all in your other discussions on this issue. One of them is probably sitting in a large bottle of generic pain-reliever in your kitchen or bathroom cupboard at this very moment. :-) Acetaminophen (paracetamol overseas), a method even endorsed by The National Geographic Society and Audubon Society. Average cost to permanently get rid of any cat: $0.05. Why pay for or rent a trap with prices that cheap? Not to mention schlepping that unwanted cat all over heII and highwater to only have it end up dead anyway. And there’s no guarantee that some TNR lunatic won’t release that cat right back on your very own street again. Whereas a 5-cent pill can solve the problem permanently!

          • hottamomma

            thanks for that! that was some wonderful advice and cheaper.

          • guest

            I wonder if that would work in a birdbath too. The mosquitoes are going to be BAD and the birds carry the deadly west neural virus.

          • guest2

            Don’t you already have your cats to kill all your birds for you? And it’s a method that you know already works. How many animals have you tortured to death with your cats? Killing one cat means saving thousands and thousand of other animals and their offspring, not just birds. Out of all pet-owners on earth people who own cats kill more animals than any other type of pet-owner that has ever existed. If not killing animals for their own food, then killing animals for their cats’ food, and if they allow their cats outdoors their cats kill billions of more animals yearly. Cat-owners are some of the must vile, inhumane, and destructive humans to have ever existed.

          • guest2

            must vile = most vile

          • guest

            If you’re asking me, no I don’t have cats.

          • guest

            http://news.discovery.com/human/health/west-nile-virus-facts-120819.htm

            Funny you’re more concerned about birds than people. People want to get rid of cats, but a lot people also get rid of ground hogs, chipmunks, squirrels, raccoons, etc. Trust me, around here most people aren’t like you. We get rid of ALL the animals that are a nuisance. Quite a few actually.

          • guest3

            If you want to live on an island inhabited by no other species but humans and their pets go for it! I’m sure your kind would be quite happy there. Feeling just as safe and cozy as living back in your mommy’s womb.

            Your right to torture other animals with cats for cats’ play-toys ends at your property line.

          • guest

            Perhaps you can’t read, or interpret very well. Let me re-post slowly, just for you. “but a lot of people also get rid of groundhogs, chipmunks, squirrels, raccoons, etc.” You must know cops and humane officers shoot many raccoons and groundhogs. I guess they should just have the complainers move to an island. Right guest1,2,3, and now 4.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            ,
            hottamomma just like I wrote Bob,Go ahead and do it and what will happen, I know what will happen if you do. JAIL TIME

          • hottamomma

            you have to remember this way u cat lickers wont know who did it.ha aha hah ha ha hahahah hahah. by by cats!!

          • Debbie Zsigray

            YOU JUST CAN NOT TAKE THE LAW INTO YOUR OWN HANDS LADY AND YOU KNOW TO.
            I will know and if and when the ASPCA will get wind of it and they will read what you, Bob, Woodman and the others who is planning to kill all cats that is including house cats that is on their own land…You just can not kill someone else cats just because you think you can…YOU JUST CAN NOT TAKE THE LAW INTO YOUR OWN HANDS…

          • Woodsman001

            Cat-lickers take the law into their own hands every time they release an invasive species predator into non-native habitat.

            Didn’t anyone tell you what can happen if one of your cats kills ANY animal on an endangered or protected species list? YOU can be fined up to $20,000 for each occurrence.

            Didn’t anyone tell you what can happen if one of your cats transmits a deadly disease to a human, their livestock, or their other animals? YOU can be sued for $millions.

            How’s your liability insurance? Do you have enough to cover these costs?

          • Debbie Zsigray

            I have news for you sucker, my cat has all she shuts and that she does not have no deadly diseases as you all put it. My cat is a indoor house cat,That not for you to know is it?

          • Guest4

            Oh, I get it. Nobody is there to lick your cat for you, so you now use any cat issue to get your attention licked by humans. There’s about a dozen reasons that no man will ever go near any cat licking woman. Guess what they are.

            #1) They are subconsciously perceived as barren and useless for procreating the male’s own genetics. This is why cat licking women have cats for surrogate children. They are incapable of siring anyone’s offspring, and most certainly won’t be responsible about it even if they can.

            Bet you didn’t guess that one. Can you guess the other dozen or so reasons? Bet you can’t. Otherwise you wouldn’t be licking your monitor-screen for attention instead of your cat.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            I have news for you right now, there are a lot of man who have cats also. And as for(This is why cat licking women have cats for surrogate children.They are incapable of siring anyone’s offspring, and most certainly won’t be responsible about it even if they can.) that is a lie. AND I AM NOT A CATLICKER EITHER,CATS ARE THE ONLY AMINALS THAT I LOVE,I LOVE DOGS,HORSES ,COWS, DUCKS, AND OTHER AMINALS ALSO. Bet you didn’t guess that one.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            P.S AS FOR THIS SO CALL LAW .HAT YOU STATED,
            Didn’t anyone tell you what can happen if one of your cats kills ANY animal on an endangered or protected species list? YOU can be fined up to $20,000 for each occurrence.
            Didn’t anyone tell you what can happen if one of your cats transmits a deadly disease to a human, their livestock, or their other animals? YOU can be sued for $millions . WHAT I DO KNNOW THIS LAW THAT HAVE STATED IS ON DOGS AD THE PEOPLE WHO TRAIN THEM TO FIGHT.OK OK THEN WHERE IN THIS SO CALL LAW STATES THAT CAT OWNERS ARE RESPONIBLE what can happen if one of your cats kills ANY animal on an endangered or protected species list? YOU can be fined up to $20,000 for each occurrence.
            Didn’t anyone tell you what can happen if one of your cats transmits a deadly disease to a human, their livestock, or their other animals? YOU can be sued for $millions? WHERE? WHERE?

          • hottamomma

            blah blah. the fera has no right on my property. so by by feral cat!!!!. hahahahahahahah

          • hottamomma

            no jail time, just kitty heaven. i can put a bowl of whatever i want on my property. i can even put a bowl of whatever i want in the forest and you would never no who did it. cat licker

        • Debbie Zsigray

          Go ahead and do it and what will happen, I know what will happen if you do. JAIL TIME

          • Bob Sweatt

            YAWN!!!!! They will have to know it was me. And I don’t see any city spending even a dollar to investigate a few dead stray cats.

            You are beginning to bore with me with droning on about your agenda. I have realized that you think have to be right. So here you go. YOUR RIGHT the rest of us are ignorant cat haters.

            There you happy will you?? Now Shut the Hell up.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            Come over to where I live and say that to my face you SOB.OBTW IF YOY ARE A MAN ENOUGH TO MAKE ME THEN COME AND TRY TO MAKE AND WE SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU.

          • Woodsman001

            Huh ….

            You’d think that cat-lickers would have more sense than to argue with and threaten the very people who are holding their cats’ lives in their hands.

            Oh wait … that’s right …. dumber than their cats.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            I GOT ONE WORD FOR YOU AND THAT IS CAT HATER,, OH WAIT THAT IS TWO WORD…I HAVE A CAT AND I DO NOT GO AROUND AND THREATEN PEOPLE,,THAT IS NOT ME……AND DO NOT SAY THAT I HAVE THREATEN ANY OF YOU,THAT WILL BE A LIE THAT YOU ALL WILL SAY.

          • Woodsman001

            Destroying cats is neither hating cats nor a fear of cats.

            Why do mentally-unbalanced and psychotic cat-advocates always presume that if someone is removing a highly destructive, deadly disease spreading, human-engineered invasive-species from the native habitat to restore it back into natural balance that they must hate that organism? Does someone who destroys Zebra Mussels, Kudzu, African Cichlids, Burmese Pythons, Brown Tree Snakes, or any of the other myriad destructive invasive-species have some personal problem with that species? (Many of which are escaped PETS that don’t even spread any harmful diseases, unlike cats.) Your ignorance and blatant biases are revealed in your declaring that people who destroy cats must somehow hate or fear cats. Nothing could be further from the truth.

            It is people who let a destructive invasive-species roam free that tortures-to-death all other wildlife, wasted for their cats’ play-toys, that have zero respect for ALL life. They don’t even care about their cats dying a slow torturous death from exposure, animal attacks, diseases, starvation, dehydration, becoming road-kill, environmental poisons, etc., the way that ALL stray cats suffer to death. They don’t even respect their fellow human being. This speaks more than volumes about your disgusting character. People like you should be locked up in prison for life for your cruelty to all animals, cruelty to your own cats as well as all the native wildlife that you let your cats skin alive or disembowel alive for their and your entertainment. If you let cats roam free you are violating every animal-abandonment, animal-neglect, animal-endangerment, and invasive-species law in existence.

            If people do hate cats today, have LEARNED to hate cats today, you have nobody but yourself and everyone just like you to blame. YOU are the reason people are now realizing that all excess cats must be destroyed on-site and on-sight. You’ve done so much to make people care about cats, haven’t you. If you want to do something about it, direct your sadly and sorely misplaced energies at those that are causing the problem, not at those who are actually solving it AND HAVE SOLVED IT 100%.

            THIS IS YOUR FAULT and THE FAULT OF EVERYONE JUST LIKE YOU. You have NOBODY but yourselves to blame.

            You can take that all the way to the very last shot-dead cat’s grave.

          • Bob Sweatt

            YAWN!!!!!

          • Bob Sweatt

            Yeah i know what would happen. I would probably vomit from the stench of cat urine coming off of you.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            THERE IS NO URINE AROUND MY HOME

          • Woodsman001

            That’s another aspect of any brain that has been hijacked by cats’ Toxoplasma gondii parasites. Just like it hijacks the minds of rodents to make rodents attracted to the smell of cat-urine ( http://scitizen.com/neuroscience/parasite-hijacks-the-mind-of-its-host_a-23-509.html ), the same thing happens to humans. This is why cat-hoarders cannot smell the stench in their homes. A stench so bad that the whole neighborhood knows where the smell is coming from, and the animal rescuers even have to wear gas-masks to enter the cat-hoarder’s home and the home later destroyed because there’s no way to remove that smell. But the cat-hoarder can’t even smell it.

            Have a lot of cats, do you?

            An interesting side-study of this parasite hijacking human minds: Another study theorizes that the reason for the success of Chanel No. 5 perfume in France was due to the high incidence of T. gondii in the general population there, specifically among men. They put cat pheromones in Chanel No. 5, and the T. gondii parasites in the men’s minds might be what made them attracted to that perfume and its historical success.

          • Angie

            Due to their love of uncooked steak, it’s suggested that over 80% of people in france are infected with the parasite. most of France’s population. I wonder just how many people infected with toxo know that without cats roaming around they would not have picked up the parasite. Comes across to me that not many people are properly educated on this with their “just practice good hygiene, wear gloves and you’ll be fine!” talk. I have also wondered in fascination if every single person who picks up the parasite starts to like cats, whereas before they didnt like them or were not fussed for example. That would make an interesting survey

          • Guest4

            Where do you think your steaks get it from? Directly from cat-feces. Herbivores like cattle, sheep, goats, etc, cannot contract this parasite in any other way. Whether it comes from your meats or garden vegetables it was first shat-out by a cat.

          • Angie

            I know that already, but i was addressing the fact that it seems so many people out there are not properly educated about it and dont know that cats are the source of the parasite and infection.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            LIER THAT IS NOT TURE

          • Woodsman001

            Another interesting experiment. They wanted to find out if dogs could possibly transmit the cat-shed oocysts. (A dog infected with T. gondii from a source-cat cannot; that stage of the parasite’s life-cycle is 100% dependent on cat-physiology; but if they eat oocyst-laden cat-feces, they can).

            ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9477489?dopt=Abstract&holding=f1000,f1000m,isrctn

            It is interesting to note: That these Toxoplasma gondii oocysts shed by cats can even survive the hydrochloric stomach acids for the duration that they remain in a mammal’s digestive tract. And then they doubt my words when I tell them of the studies where they found that this parasite’s oocysts (seeds) can even survive washing your hands in bleach. You could wash your hands and garden vegetables in hydrochloric acid and digestive enzymes for the same duration that food remains in an animal’s digestive tract and even that won’t destroy it. Your hands would be dissolved into a digestible pulp long before you could kill the Toxoplasma gondii oocysts.

            Yeah, “basic hygiene” is going to keep your kids safe from going blind sometime during their life, becoming autistic, or die if they ever require any immunosuppressive therapies during their lifetime if they had ever played in a sandbox that a neighbor’s cat has defecated in.

            And contrary to cat-lickers self-deceptive myths and lies, a cat can become reinfected many times during its life. Each time shedding MILLIONS of oocysts that survive for over a year in any water or soils where it is spread by cats.

            Dream on, fools! Drink the cat-lickers’ Kool-Aid!

          • Angie

            Ah perhaps i had worded it not so well, so it ended up confusing you. I will remove it now

          • NightOwl

            By the way woodsman just to let you know, i changed my username to NightOwl. Angie is not my real name, it was just a name i chose for disqus

          • Debbie Zsigray

            FOR YOUR 411,I HAVE JUST ONE CAT AND MY HOME DOES NOT SMELL OF CAT URINE. AND I AM NOT A CAT HOARDER EITHER.

          • Bob Sweatt

            I probably wont have a heard time finding your house. I will just follow the stink of cats. I am sure that will lead me right to your house.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            WELL TRY FIND WHERE I LIVE.. IF YOU DARE.

          • Woodsman001

            Just be sure to look around for any field/trail/game cameras that they might hide from immediate view. They won’t claim they own those cats for legal reasons, but will raise holy hell of how someone killed THEIR cats when they’re all gone. Many of these TNR psychotics who hoard cats on public lands then monitor them so they can tell who’s been there. Keep the camera(s) as payment and souvenir for your well deserved efforts. I know some people that have boxes of them and re-gift them to friends.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            LIKE I SAID BEFORE BOB, I AM NOT GOING FIGHT WITH YOU,,,BUT I AM STATING AND STANDING ON WHAT THE ANIMAL LAW SAID ABOUT WHAT WE CAN AND CAN NOT DO
            YOU JUST CAN NOT TAKE THE LAW INTO YOUR OWN HANDS LADY AND YOU KNOW TO.
            I will know and if and when the ASPCA will get wind of it and they will read what you, Bob, Woodman and the others who is planning to kill all cats that is including house cats that is on their own land…You just can not kill someone else cats just because you think you can…YOU JUST CAN NOT TAKE THE LAW INTO YOUR OWN HANDS…

          • Woodsman001

            The law in the USA is that it is perfectly legal to destroy any animal, someone’s pet or not, that is threatening the health, well-being, and safety of yourself, your family, your animals, or even your property. Also true even in most densely populated cities, firearms laws permitting, if not then 700-1200fps air-rifles with vermin-pellets are commonly used. The newer ones even come with a sound-suppressor design built right-in, being designed specifically for shooting vermin cats in urban areas, the demand is that great. The only animals exempt from you taking immediate action, legally, are those listed on endangered or threatened species lists, regulated game-animals (hunting season only, except for designated “small game” on your own lands which is year-’round no-license in most states), and any bird species under protection of MBTA (the Migratory Bird Treaty Act). Even then variances can be given should there be sufficient problem but this requires further study by authorities. Since cats are listed in the TOP 100 WORST invasive species of the world in the “Global Invasive Species Database” ( http://www.issg.org/database/species/ecology.asp?si=24&fr=1&sts=sss ), this means they have no protection whatsoever from being shot on sight, they are not on any protected species list anywhere in the world. Quite the opposite as a matter of fact. And if your area enforces and obeys invasive species laws — as they should — then it is against the law to NOT destroy any cat on sight, someone’s pet or not. It is your civic and moral responsibility to destroy any invasive species that is found away from supervised confinement and roaming freely in a non-native habitat.

            (This is precisely how I managed to clear out every last one of hundreds of these invasive species vermin cats from my own lands. On the sound advice of the sheriff. Even he found that trying to reason with and warn the cat-lickers did no good. But shooting every last cat finally worked! My lands have been 100% cat-free for nearly 4 years now, for less than the price of a couple cups of coffee for the ammo — on close-out sale, 5000 rounds for $15. That’s THREE cats sterilized, permanently vaccinated against ALL diseases, and also given a permanent “loving forever home” (2ft. under) so they can no longer destroy any more native wildlife — PER PENNY!)

            Shoot to maim is punishable under the laws that define animal-cruelty, and rightly so, (these are the ONLY cases that cat-lickers cite to try to manipulate and scare everyone from shooting their only favorite animal). But shoot to kill is a perfectly legal way to humanely destroy an animal. The same laws and principles that apply to methods of humanely hunting animals also applies to cats. (Hint: outfit your rifle with a good scope and laser-sight, inexpensive on ebay. This will ensure a totally humane, instant, and LEGAL kill each and every time. Though use a fatal chest-shot, a head-shot is not always a sure thing.) Unlike cat-lickers’ psychotic beliefs, the reality is that a cat is just another animal. It’s NOT their baby, their child, their offspring. Even if they do view their cats that way, letting them roam free is no less criminally irresponsible than them telling their child to go play in the freeway and then blaming the cars for their child’s death. If they let their cat roam free, NO MATTER HOW IT DIES, that is THEIR fault and they can be charged with all laws that clearly define animal-neglect, animal-abandonment, and animal-endangerment. Not to mention being in direct violation of all international invasive species laws in existence.

            In fact, here’s a publication from a study done by the University of Nebraska on the best ways to HUMANELY deal with a feral-cat problem wherever you live. This documentation INCLUDES the best firearms, ammo, and air-rifles required to HUMANELY destroy cats. deenawinter.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/ec1781.pdf

            Besides, what difference does it make if the cat gets shot or ran over by a car, attacked by another cat or animal, drowned, or poisoned by plants animals or chemicals (inexpensive 1-adult-strength generic acetaminophen pain-relievers gaining in popularity, for being so species specific, far far safer than antifreeze and rat-poisons that cat-lickers have forced everyone else into using lately). The result is the same. The cause is the same — the fault of the criminally irresponsible pet-owner that let their invasive species pet roam free. They’ve already proved that their animal is 100% expendable. You can either destroy their cat for them humanely, or let their lack of care cause it to inevitably die inhumanely. They don’t care one bit how their cat might cruelly suffer to death if they let it roam free. Humanely destroy their cat for them before that can happen. A well aimed bullet is the MOST humane death that ANY stray or feral cat can ever look forward to. Any other death that they WILL eventually face is all inhumanely downhill from there.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            YOU ARE JUST FULL BS AND YOU CAN JUST PUT THOSE WEBSITES UP ALL YOU WANT BUT I AM NOT BUYING WHER.HAT IT SAIDS OR WHAT YOU SAID EIT

          • Woodsman001

            Someone’s losing it. :-)

            There is one saving-grace that cats have given to all non-cat-lickers though.

            http://healthland.time.com/2012/07/03/are-cat-ladies-more-likely-to-attempt-suicide/

            “They found that women who were infected with T. gondii were one-and-a-half times more likely to attempt suicide than uninfected women. The higher the levels of T. gondii antibodies found, the higher the suicide risk. They were also more likely [1.8 times greater] to try to commit suicide violently, with a gun, sharp object or by jumping. When the researchers took into account women’s previous mental illness, they found that those who had toxoplasmosis were more likely to attempt suicide than those who had been mentally ill.”

            [the updated "violent suicide" ratio inserted in brackets are mine from other research sources]

            They are not only more likely to commit suicide (even though they have no previous bouts of mental or emotional illness), but when they do they choose more drastic means — like throwing themselves into heavy traffic, leaping to their deaths, or slitting their throats. No simple overdose and never waking-up from a deep sleep for these Toxo-brained women. No siree! It’s gotta be bold and gruesome! :-)

            Don’t let that little tidbit of information bother you too.

          • Debbie Zsigray

            NO I AM NOT LOSING IT, It is that You and all those cat haters are beginning to bore with me with droning on about your agenda in how you all are going to get rid of all FERAL and STRAY CATS WHERE YOU ALL LIVE. I AM GOING SAY THIS RIGHT NOW THAT IS I AM SO GLAD THAT YOU ALL DO NOT LIVE HERE IN ELYRIA. BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO LOVES CATS AS WELL AS DOGS.

          • hottamomma

            that right tell her as*!!!

          • Debbie Zsigray

            SHUT THE HELL UP.

          • hottamomma

            HA HA HA; HA HA ;HA ;HA!!!!!

          • Debbie Zsigray

            I AM DONE LISTENING TO YOU HOTTAMOMMA YOU THINK THAT YOU ARE BETTER THEN PEOPLE WHO LOVES CAT,YOU THINK YOU KNOW IT ALL.BUT I GOT NEWS FOR YOU,YOU DO NOT ANYTHING AT AL.

          • hottamomma

            NO U R THE ONE WHO THINK U KNOW IT ALL. I NEVER SAID I KNEW IT ALL. I DO KNOW THIS, THE KITTENS R DEAD! HA HA ;HA HA. I DONT CARE WHO LOVES CATS, JUST KEEP THEM IN THEIR OWN YARD. AND DONT LET THEM REPRODUCE AND THEN HAVE 500 CATS, THATS ALL

          • Debbie Zsigray

            I DO KNOW WHAT THE LAW SAID ABOUT KILLING CATS,THAT IS MORE THEN YOU KNOW,I DO KNOW IT IS AGAINST THE LAW FOR WHAT YOU ALL ARE PLANING ON DOING TO ALL FERAL AND STRAY CATS AND ALL HOUSE CATS IF YOU ALL SEES THAT THEY ARE NOT IN YOUR YAND.AND THAT IS NOT COOL.THINK BEFORE YOU DO ACT.

          • hottamomma

            the law says that u have to stop at a stop sign also, but most people just yield, why arent u yelling about that?. if they r pets keep them in the house. cause if i c them in my yard, i will feel threaten that they will give me and my and/dr my family a diease, and i will react the quickest way i can

          • Debbie Zsigray

            Ok then if you see a cat that has a tag on it’s neck that do say they have had all it’s shots will you kill that cat knowing that? or will you check and see if that cat has a owner first?
            Ok let say that you have a dog and there are some people who hates dogs and they see your dog outside in your yard or on the side of your yard just laying there and they killed your dog, what will you do? It is the same with cat owners.

          • Guest5

            These are just the diseases cats have been spreading to humans, not counting the ones they spread to all wildlife. THERE ARE NO VACCINES against many of these, and are in-fact listed as bio-terrorism agents. They include: Afipia felis, Anthrax, Bartonella (Rochalimaea) henselae, Bergeyella (Weeksella) zoohelcum, Campylobacter Infection, Cat Scratch Disease, Chlamydia psittaci (feline strain), Cowpox, Coxiella burnetti Infection (Q fever), Cryptosporidium Infection, Cutaneous larva migrans, Dermatophytosis, Dipylidium Infection (tapeworm), Hookworm Infection, Leptospira Infection, Giardia, Neisseria canis, Pasteurella multocida, Plague, Poxvirus, Rabies, Rickettsia felis, Ringworm, Salmonella Infection, Scabies, Sporothrix schenckii, Toxocara Infection, Toxoplasmosis, Trichinosis, Visceral larva migrans, Yersinia pseudotuberculosis. [Centers for Disease Control, July 2010] Bovine Tuberculosis, Flea-borne Typhus, Rat-Bite Fever, Sarcosporidiosis, and Tularemia, can now also be added to that list.

            Yes, The Plague is alive and well in the USA, and it is now being spread by CATS. Google for: Cat-Transmitted Fatal Pneumonic Plague, for a fun read. One of hundreds. Totally disproving that oft-spewed manipulation tactic by cat-lickers that more cats could have prevented The Plague in Europe — cats can CAUSE IT!

          • Debbie Zsigray

            I AM NOT GOING TO SHUT THE HELL UP.I HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK OUT IF I WANT TO.YOU CAN NOT TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME.IF YOU A MAN ENOUGH TO MAKE ME THERE COME OVER HERE AND MAKE ME,IF YOU THINK YOU A MAN ENOUGH TO DO SO. It is not the city that I am talking about, we all know that your city will not but the ASPCA that will and where I live is not the city but the ASPCA that will investigate. OH YES YOU THIN THAT ASPCA WILL NOT BUT THINK AGAIN THEY CAN AND THEY WILL……DO YOU GOT ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT? NOW You are beginning to bore with me with droning on about your agenda.

          • hottamomma

            blah blah blah. meow meow meow

          • Debbie Zsigray

            LADY, IAM BEGINNING TO HATE YOU.

          • hottamomma

            ITS NOT NICE TO HATE!. SO U HATE ME CAUSE I DONT AGREE WITH U? NOW THATS IMMATURE OF YOU. I DONT HATE U. maybe its that cat diease making you hate

          • Debbie Zsigray

            I DID NOT SAY I HATE YOU, I DID SAY I AM BEGINNING TO HATE YOU.HATE IS A STRONG WORD BUT I SHOULD HAVE SAID DISLIKE YOU.I AM GOING SAY THIS ONE MORE TIME CATS ARE NOT DIEASE MAKER.I AM GOING SAY THIS ONE MORE TIME ALSO,CATS ARE NOT THE DIEASE MAKER IFIT IS RATS AND MICE THAT ARE DIEASED AND THE CATS DOES KEEP THEM AWAY FROM PEOPLE HOMES.

          • hottamomma

            say it one more time!

    • Woodsman001

      Bob said, “Dear god here we go again. You all have fun debating this nonsense.”

      I don’t think you or others know how this works. I dealt with cat-lickers for FIFTEEN YEARS. I know EXACTLY what you are up against.

      I got rid of every last one of hundreds of cats where I live. Cat-lickers are no longer any problem at all where I live — going on nearly 4 years now. No stray cats, no cat-lickers causing any problems at all. Not ONE peep from them. Why is that? They have no outdoor cats to manipulate everyone with — all gone, shot dead and buried. And if they do try again to let more roam free, that cat gets shot as soon as it is spotted off of their lands. THEY KNOW THIS. It’s why they don’t even bother trying anymore.

      I only use cat-lickers now as my online show-’n-tell puppets. To prove to everyone in the world, beyond any doubt in the universe, that no matter how much you try to educate them, reason with them, beg with them, plead with them, argue with them; that it will solve NOTHING for the problem that THEY created and are hellbent on perpetuating. The ONLY thing that works is ignoring every last thing that morons like them might spew to others, and then giving back to them the EXACT SAME amount of respect and consideration as they show to all other life on earth.

      Just destroy every last one of their free-roaming cats. Then and only then will the problem that they created be solved.

      They only use their cats like animal sacrifices to try to control and manipulate everyone in the world around them. This is why they don’t give one damn if their cats get ran over by cars, attacked by other cats or animals, or die any other way. This really isn’t about cats at all!

      You only have to ignore every last thing these deranged invasive species lickers are spewing to the world. That’s the most important part. Asking them for advice and help to solve the problem that they created and are hellbent on perpetuating is just as foolish as asking your local career thieves for their advice and help to hide your valuables from their daily motives, goals, and activities.

      Once their furry little tools to manipulate everyone are no-more, they don’t have even 1 of 4 legs to stand on about anything. Nothing to complain about. Nothing to manipulate others with anymore.

      GAME OVER!

      It worked 100% where I live! May you learn to ignore them as much as I had and just start to destroy every last free-roaming cat you see, then your cat problem solves itself! 100% guaranteed! And if you live where they’ve already hijacked your lawmakers and removed your rights to your own property? Then …

      SSS — Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-Up
      TDSS — Trap, Drown, Shovel, & Shut-Up

      Those are your two very best friends when living next-door to a manipulative cat-licker. Legal on every square foot of this earth. No local laws were violated if it never happened! Many a raccoon, dog, car, coyote, hawk, cat-napper, etc, was blamed for a neighbor’s missing cat that is now acting as fertilizer for rose-bushes.

      Good luck! :-)

      • Zen Grouch

        A lot of effort went into that revealing post…

        …a lot of *scary* effort

        • Woodsman001

          Wasn’t one of my better posts. I was tired, it was late, bits & pieces garnered from other prepared text, but you get the general idea. I’ll repost my “The Mind of the Cat-Licker – Human Territorial Behavior by Expendable Proxy” that makes it more clear — if you’re hurting for reading material. :-) Found under the “Load more comments” section. Another one of my original discoveries about animal/human behavior of which I’m quite proud. The missing piece of the puzzle that explains why cat-lickers are like they are. It amounts to a reptilian brain-stem function and behavior of theirs. The more you understand the simplistic thought processes of cat-lickers, the better armed you are in knowing how to deal with them. Usually, this amounts to nothing more than the “ignoring a child in tantrum” method. LOL

          • Zen Grouch

            Don’t get me wrong…

            …there’s a LOT to be said for *scary* effort, starting with, it’s never boring.

          • Woodsman001

            Oh, okay, cool. :-) You should read my earliest posts about getting green and purple lasers from china suppliers (under $6 these days) then pot-modding them to put out over 100mw, using them to blind cats that are too difficult to shoot. (Instant and painless, even more humane than declawing them.) It’s easier to shoot them next time because they can’t see you. :-) But after I learned of all the diseases they spread, I realized that method of stopping them from hunting wasn’t good enough, so I stopped advising it. Though … it still comes in handy in urban areas where guns aren’t allowed. If blind in one eye they lose their depth-perception and can no longer hunt as effectively. If blind in both eyes they stay home by their food-dish where they damn-well belonged in the first place, and the cat-licker can still get all the attention (and even more now) that they want from that cat. Plus, it only blinds them in their fovea, so they still have peripheral vision to evade traffic. A high-tech win-win solution for some people living by criminally irresponsible cat-licking neighbors.

          • Angie

            Is there any risk to yourself by assembling and using the laser? And could it affect any other animals which are in a distance to the cat? (wildlife, etc) Just curious

          • Woodsman001

            Yes, it can blind any eye that it is pointed at. I would assume that anyone with the knowledge of how to modify a simple $6 pocket-laser-pointer would also be knowledgeable enough to know what precautions must be taken to ensure the safety of all other living things when it is put to use. But as always, “Never underestimate the stupidity of humanity. ” Thanks for bringing this up.

            I found that the green lasers are visible during the day, but the pot-modded violet lasers are very very difficult to see in daytime, even at that much power (mine puts out over 180mw). But the violet ones also put out much more IR radiation so they are more effective. Best to save those for dusk to dawn use.

            (Note: there are many reports that these inexpensive lasers have been modified in manufacturing so they can no longer be easily adjusted for higher output. You’re on your own then in finding a source. It might just be buying or borrowing one from a friend who bought one when they first started to become inexpensive and popular devices. I’m glad I bought all mine when I did.)

          • Angie

            Reading back it came across as a silly question, but i am on your side after all, remember that :)

          • Debbie Zsigray

            ANOTHER KNOW IT ALL

          • Woodsman001

            There’s lots of those around you, isn’t there. That’s probably because more than 99% of the population knows more than you do. Sucks to be you!

  • Jeffrey Frentzen

    Idiotic response from the officials. It shows that the dullards running this town cannot figure out what the “humane” part of “humane officer” really means. Leaving it to the population to take care of is regretful but just one more bad move on the part of the city.

    • Zen Grouch

      I think it’s more of washing their hands of a *Damned if you do/Damned if you don’t* situation…

      …not because they are “dullards” but in response to the dullards.

      • Jeffrey Frentzen

        Other towns have dealt with this problem by providing proper training, education to its animal control people.

        • Zen Grouch

          Really?!

          So what?

          Budget restraints are different from town to town.

          Let the good people of North Ridgeville vote in a levy to fund this proper training, since they seem to be incapable of, or unwilling to dealing with this problem on their own…

          …I mean unable to handle the problem without complaining here about it.

          • Jeffrey Frentzen

            Good point. Sounds like there has been some pressure placed on the town to make changes.

        • Debbie Zsigray

          Jeffrey, Please do not get ZEN started because he think him and those who hate cats are right and we are wrong.

  • Woodsman001

    After cat-lickers have hijacked your lives, homes, properties, and lawmakers (with their usual bullying and death-threats) to get their TNR con-game programs into your area (like forcing no-kill policies, etc.) the usual course of action that is spreading across the country is ….

    1. Wait until these cat-lickers have bankrupted themselves sterilizing all their c-rats (if they even bother to do what they claim, see below).

    2. Cull their TNR colonies by any means possible, stepping up their rate of attrition. (See “hint” below of how to do this so you don’t bring psychopathic cat-lickers into your own lives and turn your own lives into a living hell as well.) After-all, this is how cat-lickers want all their cats to die you know, by “attrition”. Their feel-good term for letting ALL their cats die gruesome inhumane deaths.

    3. Rinse & repeat.

    And here’s exactly why you HAVE TO do this:

    Not long ago I learned that TNR cat-hoarders practice a form of “TNR-On-A-Budget” (my name for it). TNR cat-hoarders who want to keep feeding their cats but can’t afford all that tedious mucking-about and getting them sterilized or vaccinated just trap the cats and clip the cats’ ears themselves. Then release them again right after clipping their ears. Doing their best to hide all evidence of where they keep these colonies and telling few about them. This way the cat if trapped again just gets released right there so the cat-hoarder can continue to dote-over and feed their unsterilized and unvaccinated cats. Plus everyone else who might happen on their secret cat-hoarding locations thinks those cats are sterilized and vaccinated so they have fewer concerns about them still overbreeding or spreading deadly diseases. The TNR cat-hoarder feeder just tells them, “Oh, don’t worry. See that clipped ear? They are sterilized and vaccinated. Perfectly fine and legal!”

    Thanks to these “TNR-On-A-Budget” psychotics, clipped-eared cats must be trapped and euthanized or destroyed on-site — the only affordable and sane solution for everyone.

    If you doubt what I claim about TNR-cat-hoarding addicts practicing “TNR-On-A-Budget”, then perhaps you might enjoy this post I found to again prove everything I say is 100% true. They don’t talk about this practice too openly, just like they like to hide their cat-hoarders’ colonies and how they attempt to do so (also revealed in the thread this post was taken from, verifiable link below).

    “Chris Cook

    We had a culling of the neighborhood cats 2 years ago when there were only 10 or so (I lost 4 under my care in the same week). Now there’s over 25 – that I know about (about half fixed)… it’s just a matter of time before someone decides they have the ‘solution’ to the cat ‘problem’. All I can do is get them tipped (in case Animal Services gets them, there’s a small chance they’ll release them back to the area they caught them) and hope for the best by making my own yard a hidden sanctuary of sorts. At least my HOA knows I’m TNRing them and not just feeding them so they (for now) look the other way while slamming the feeders-and-breeders who contributed to the problem getting out of hand and refusing any and all offers of assistance.”

    from: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=295067530554567&id=110911218963121

    Not only is this criminally irresponsible TNR practitioner hoarding and feeding unsterilized cats, they even attracted MORE cats to keep reproducing — which again disproves their oft-spewed “vacuum effect” LIE. While also lying to their HOA to boot. They even believe that what they are doing _is_ TNR, that’s just how demented these people are. I’d say this person reflects the norm rather than the exception, since TNR advocates relentlessly lie about so much and so often.

    Hint: for those permanently solving cat-hoarder’s ILLEGAL TNR invasive-species colonies by stepping up their rate of “attrition” (i.e. death by any means necessary); look around for any game/field/trail-cameras that might be hidden from immediate view, then collect them as a souvenir and payment for your well-deserved efforts. As we all know, the only thing worse than having a feral cat colony around, is drawing TNR psychotics right to your home.

    Google: Loews Hotels Feral Cats, if you don’t believe me and see what these whack-jobs did to them.

    Here’s another recent replay of the same thing that these cat-licker-sociopaths did to Loews Hotels:

    Google for: cats venice complex reprieve

    A $150 million renovation project for low-income housing, put on hold, jobs lost, money lost, homeless still homeless, court costs and lawyers, just to save a few of their feral vermin c-Rats. And the saddest part of all, the vast majority of these TNR’ed cats had already died heinous inhuman deaths from TNR-practitioners’ “death by attrition” re-abandonment philosophy. (Road-kill, diseases, parasites, injuries, environmental poisons, cat & animal attacks, exposure, etc. etc. Their all-encompassing feel-good blinders-on term of “death by attrition”.)

    Similar scenarios can be found by Googling for feral cats and churches, universities, hospitals, shopping centers, malls, apartment complexes, etc., etc. Cat-lickers delusionally believe that any land on which a cat has stepped-foot is their own property and they can manipulate and control the owners and all laws on it.

    This is precisely why everyone is learning to destroy all cats on their properties as quickly and quietly as possible. Telling nobody beforehand about the cats even being there. Long before these cat-licker psychotics get wind of the cats. Shoot cats first, tell no-one later. The only thing worse than feral cats, are feral cat-lickers. You can legally shoot the former, not the latter. You need to pay lawyers and courts to get rid of the latter. THEN you can get rid of their cats. And the sad part is, that’s EXACTLY what happens, each and every time.

    People are wising-up. If ANY cats are around they destroy every last one of them first, before they make any other move.

  • Forest Man 007

    Seditious cat-LICkers stole MY property, MY freedom and my GOLD with there man-MADe invasive species!!!!1111oneoneoneone There is a GLOBAl movement to deal with this MENAce to society and you cat-lickerS have only yourSELVES to bLAME!! Like NEVER-nudes there are literally DOZENS of us who have discovered the SADOTIPCOECRA method of feLInE pest control!! Its the Spend All Day On The Internet Posting Comments On Every Cat Related Article method and it is %100 percent LEGAL under the ENDANGERED species Act and other INTERNATIONAL treaties. It is the only PROVEn way to protect YOURself from CRAZY cat ladies and there armies of DISEASE ridden VERMIN who infect you with T. gondii paraSITES who turn you into a CAT-LICKER!!

    Even WORSe these TOXOplasmoSIS paraSiteS can infect your BRAIN without you REALIZING it making you a dormant SLEEPER-AGENT who seems normal until YOU wake up ONE day with the URGE to collect man-made INVASIVE species cats as a replacement for the children you NEVER had.

    Don’t believe me? See this SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_(2004_TV_series).

    This is why it IS important to HAVE yourSELF tested for T. gondii INFECTion even if you aren’t a cat-LICKER just be sure to test YOURself and not go to some doctor who could be a cat-LICKer who will INFECT you himSELF. The CAT_lickers will stop at NOTHING To get you infected from senDING disease-RIDDEN vermin onto your PROPERTY to injecting you with The parasite at the doctors office to assimilate you into their collective.

    Don’t believe me? See this SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg_(Star_Trek)

    Is It any wonder I think ALL cat-licKERs should go to PRISON for LIFE!?!?! TRuSt no-one not to be a CAT-licker and wear a tinfoil hat at ALL TIMES to protect yourSELF from this scourge!!!!11111oneoneone

    • Woodsman001

      Now now, you don’t have to prove that cats’ Toxoplasma gondii parasites have thoroughly eroded and hijacked your brain. We already know this about all cat-lickers. :-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/paul.lewis.568847 Paul Lewis

    Nothing is more amusing than seeing correspondence from “concerned citizens” who reside thousands of miles away from a problem urging the “mob” to “get a rope” chant to address the guy who handled the issue by using PROPER PROTOCOL.
    Now that the procedure has changed, just who do you think will be left to address the next litter of soft little balls of CLAWS?

    • Jeffrey Frentzen

      Take a breath. The story became a national news item. If the town had implemented a proper protocol then there would have been no news story.

      • Woodsman001

        (a poignant reprint)

        Cat-lickers post any and all anti-cat news events on their web-sites, blogs, email-chains, etc. (I keep track of these to watch how they operate), then within 1 hour of the news over 50,000 of them from all over the world will descend on any site that is about some controversial cat issue, start up at least 3 international petitions, and then fire off addresses (business and home), phone numbers (business and home), names, and even photos of everyone involved so they can then net-bully everyone into submission.

        Google for: LOEWS HOTELS FERAL CATS

        Another replay of what these cat-licking sociopaths do, Google for: CATS VENICE COMPLEX REPRIEVE

        A $150 million renovation project for low-income housing, put on hold, jobs lost, money lost, homeless still homeless, court costs and lawyers, just to save a few of their feral vermin cRats. And the saddest part of all, the vast majority of these TNR’ed cats had already died heinous inhumane deaths from TNR-practitioners’ “death by attrition”. (Road-kill, diseases, parasites, injuries, environmental poisons, cat & animal attacks, exposure, etc.)

        Similar scenarios can be found by Googling for feral cats and churches, universities, hospitals, shopping centers, malls, apartment complexes, etc. Cat-lickers delusionally believe that any land on which a cat has stepped-foot is their own property and they can manipulate and control the owners and all laws on it.

        This is precisely why everyone is learning to destroy all cats on their properties as quickly and quietly as possible. Telling nobody beforehand about any cats even being there. Long before these psychotic cat-licker sociopaths and psychopaths get wind of the cats. Shoot cats first — tell no-one later. The only thing worse than feral cats are feral cat-lickers. You can legally shoot the former, not the latter. You need to pay lawyers and courts to get rid of the latter. THEN you can get rid of their cats. And the sad part is, that’s EXACTLY what happens, each and every time.

        People are wising-up. If ANY cats are around they destroy every last one of them first, before they make any other move.

        In support of Officer Accorti people are now shooting AT LEAST 1 cat per day to start to put a dent in the ecological-disaster and disease-outbreaks that these net-bullying cat-lickers have caused and are hellbent on perpetuating worldwide. Did you get your Accorti-Cat today? :-)

        That’s the new chain of events that they have to stop. Let’s see them try. :-)

        • Woodsman001

          Important note: Why do they keep doing this year after year to every community on earth?

          Because, for them, it works! Simply because you allow them to manipulate you and control you. Simple as that.

        • Jeffrey Frentzen

          Hmmm… massive troll outbreak on this board.

          • Woodsman001

            “Hmmm… massive troll outbreak on this board.”

            That’s what every troll says when they’ve got no other way to get attention.

    • Debbie Zsigray

      Hi Paul, I do not live thousands miles away for your 411.you live NR right and I live Elyria so that makes you live Lorain County just like me and you are just about 15 mins away from me.

      • guest

        Debbie don’t respond to these demons. I have seen so much cruelty to all animals, they don’t even faze me. Everyday there is something on FaceBook about animal cruelty. Cats and dogs burned alive. Cats and dogs skinned alive. A donkey set on fire. Drowning cats, throwing puppies into lakes. A dog tied to a tree with a rope so tight around her neck it almost cut her head off. She lived for a little while. Dogs crammed into trucks being hauled to God only knows where. The only thing they have done on this page is make me heartless. I used to love the birds, now I recent them. I want to get rid of them, found it’s pretty easy. Oh and they also keep refreshing the page to give themselves likes under a guest name. So don’t get like me Debbie, or them, because they think it is funny to torture animals.

        • Guest4

          I do believe the torturing of animals started when cat-lickers let their cats to roam free to rip the skins off of animals while they are alive. People are humanely destroying your cats as fast as possible to stop all that senseless torture of animals that you promote and perpetuate with your pathological and criminally insane values.

          Destroying just one cat means you are saving the lives of thousands of innocent animals and all of their innocent offspring from being tortured to death from YOUR values and YOUR cats.

          • guest

            Your answers, under your many aliases, are getting even more stupid. Maybe they learned it from the dogs that rip apart animals. Refresh the page so you can give your answers more likes. I have done it, I know. I have a few dead birds to clean up…..

  • Woodsman001

    “Reptilian Brain-stem Functions of the Cat-Licker — Human Territorial Behavior by Expendable Proxy”

    I noticed that many many people keep asking the same questions over and over again. Why do they let their cats on others’ property? Why can’t they understand why this is totally wrong? Why can’t they be stopped?

    Here’s the answer to all those questions.

    Some important information to help you understand the behaviors of “cat-lovers” and their cats. Something I discovered when local “cat-lovers” (an oxymoronic label if there ever was one) were using cats to overtake my land and woods, eventually even by moving my property markers when using their cats had failed — failed because I got the legal go-ahead to shoot all cats on my land. (An expensive many $1000s lesson for these property thieves, surveyors are not cheap.) I often wondered why they kept releasing new cats onto my lands even long AFTER they already knew that all their cats were being shot to death, they were told this is what was going to happen, and WAS happening. They didn’t care about cats AT ALL! Clearly something else was motivating them. How many so-called “cat-lovers” do you know that release cats and let them roam free even after seeing many of them become road-kill, harmed by cat and animal attacks, die of diseases, killed by poisonous plants or animals they encounter outdoors, etc.? (Like every last TNR-advocate for starters.) They don’t care about cats, not in the least!

    Now you’ll know exactly why cat-lickers do what they do. It really has nothing at all to do with their concern for cats, nor even the lives of anything nor anyone else, quite the opposite.

    Human Territorial Behavior By Expendable Proxy

    I have come to the inexorable conclusion that the vast majority of “cat-lovers” and cat-owners that let their destructive invasive-species roam free, and especially those that defend the rights of feral cats to overtake private and public property and wildlife areas, are only (cowardly) using cats as a proxy for their OWN territorial behavior. Not unlike uneducated inner-city youth that will disrespectfully and inconsiderately use loud music to stake-out a territory for themselves. Whether this behavior is done consciously or subconsciously, the underlying motive is the same. As long as they can have one of their cats defecate in another’s yard or destroy their property, animals, and wildlife; and the land-owner not have any recourse; the cat-owner/caretaker owns that territory. It’s time to put a stop to them using their “cute kitty” excuse for usurping and stealing others’ property. If they want territory they can damn well buy it just like anyone else. Instead they’re using underhanded, disrespectful, and manipulative means. By putting (and sacrificing) live animals in the path of their envy and greed. “Cat-lovers” only really want your yard, garden, or forest while making all others and all other animals suffer for what they can’t have nor own. Bottom line–they want to control you and your property. That’s _ALL_ that “cat-lovers” are really after. It’s why they don’t care at all if their cat nor any other animals, nor even other humans, get harmed by their goals and (lack of) values in life.

    (In fact they prefer that all other humans and all other life on earth gets harmed by their sociopathic and psychopathic values and behavior. Read any blog online where people are removing cats from their land and property and count how many death-threats and threats of torture against humans are posted by cat-lickers. Comments like those from cat-lickers are a penny a dozen. I alone have collected hundreds of death-threats from them just for posting these comments. They even send death-threats to Congressmen, their families, and fellow lawmakers. Don’t believe me? Google for: Oda lawmakers shun security threats )

    There’s was even an interesting news report about a community in Florida where cat-lickers were trying to get a court to allow them to use a local shopping-center where they can keep their cats (to act as speed-bumps, car-accidents, and health-violation-lawsuits waiting to happen I presume).

    Or this more internationally known case, Google: Loews Hotels Feral Cats

    Here’s another replay of the same thing that these cat-licker-sociopaths did to Loews Hotels, Google for: Cats Venice Complex Reprieve

    A $150 million renovation project for low-income housing, put on hold, jobs lost, money lost, homeless still homeless, court costs and lawyers, just to save a few of their feral vermin c-Rats. And the saddest part of all, the vast majority of these TNR’ed cats had already died heinous inhuman deaths from TNR-practitioners’ “death by attrition” re-abandonment philosophy. (Road-kill, diseases, parasites, injuries, environmental poisons, cat & animal attacks, exposure, etc. etc. Their all-encompassing feel-good blinders-on term of “death by attrition”.)

    Similar scenarios can be found by Googling for feral cats and churches, universities, hospitals, shopping centers, malls, apartment complexes, etc., etc. Cat-lickers delusionally believe that any land on which a cat has stepped-foot is their own property and they can manipulate and control the owners and all laws on it.

    They can’t be stopped from their behavior. They psychotically believe they are doing “god’s work” for themselves. So you must destroy their MAN-MADE INVASIVE-SPECIES cats for them. It’s the ONLY solution.

  • FeralCatsNeedToDie

    Feed them antifreeze, I have know it works.

    • Woodsman001

      Where cats have already learned to evade all trapping methods, then inexpensive generic 1-adult-strength acetaminophen (overseas a.k.a. paracetamol) pain-relievers are a more species specific vermin poison, available everywhere for pennies. MUCH safer for the environment and all other animals than the antifreeze and rat-poisons that cat-lickers have forced everyone into using, which go on to kill more species once they are released into the environment. But you really do need to retrieve and dispose of that carcass safely so that native wildlife won’t die from the many diseases cats spread even after their death. I fed a shot-dead cat to some starving opossum once, starving from cats having destroyed all their foods. (2 adults and 3 offspring they had while under my care.) Those opossum then died from some disease in that cat. Leaving ANY cat, alive OR dead, out in nature is no better than intentionally poisoning your native wildlife to death. Cats truly are complete wastes of flesh, they can’t even be used to feed wild animals safely.

      PLEASE dispose of them safely, responsibly, and hygienically as possible (i.e. no disease-filled shotgun splatter, the tool of choice in the past, cleanly with a rifle is best). Wear gloves while doing so to protect yourself as well. After the last cat is gone incinerate or bury those gloves too.

      These are just the diseases that these invasive species cats have been spreading to humans, not counting the ones they spread to all wildlife. THERE ARE NO VACCINES against many of these, and are in-fact listed as bio-terrorism agents. They include: Afipia felis, Anthrax, Bartonella (Rochalimaea) henselae, Bergeyella (Weeksella) zoohelcum, Campylobacter Infection, Cat Scratch Disease, Chlamydia psittaci (feline strain), Cowpox, Coxiella burnetti Infection (Q fever), Cryptosporidium Infection, Cutaneous larva migrans, Dermatophytosis, Dipylidium Infection (tapeworm), Hookworm Infection, Leptospira Infection, Giardia, Neisseria canis, Pasteurella multocida, Plague, Poxvirus, Rabies, Rickettsia felis, Ringworm, Salmonella Infection, Scabies, Sporothrix schenckii, Toxocara Infection, Toxoplasmosis, Trichinosis, Visceral larva migrans, Yersinia pseudotuberculosis. [Centers for Disease Control, July 2010] Bovine Tuberculosis, Flea-borne Typhus, Rat-Bite Fever, Sarcosporidiosis, and Tularemia can now also be added to that list.

    • Woodsman001

      I also found a perfectly 100% natural solution for those who don’t want to take more direct, more humane, and more effective measures (firearms and air-rifles) against free-roaming invasive species cats. Anyone who has criminally irresponsible cat-lickers in their area need only plant lilies on their properties. (Must be from the Lilium species, not just with “Lily” in the common name, see notes.) Cat-lickers always want their more responsible neighbors to grow plants around the perimeter of their properties that will repel their cats for them (from the cat-owners’ own criminally negligent and criminally irresponsible behaviors and values). Well now you can brighten up your yard AND repel cats naturally! — PERMANENTLY

      (WARNING: If these plants are not native to your region don’t plant these if they cannot be contained, or risk introducing yet another potentially harmful invasive species!)

      Google for: lily toxicity cats

      It has been reported that a cat even licking a little bit of Lily pollen from their fur will be fatal in short order. A cat even drinking some of the water in which a bunch of lilies has been kept is also fatal to them.

      Everyone happy! You get to have the kinds of plants that you want, they get to have the kind of pets that they want — if they take care of it like any responsible grown-up would. Or are cat-lickers now going to demand that you can’t plant flowers on your own property? That would be their next and usual move, wouldn’t it.

      A perfectly natural solution to an invasive species animal that didn’t evolve with Lilium species around. Plus it’s a good incentive plan for cat-lickers to finally educate themselves all about ecology, native species, and evolution. :-)

      Doing a little research on ASPCA’s toxic plants lists (Family: Liliaceae).

      Lilies (Lilium species) that are deadly toxic to cats ONLY, in even small quantities (even the pollen will do):

      Asian Lily (Asiatic Lily) | Scientific Name: Lilium asiatica

      Easter Lily | Scientific Name: Lilium longiflorum

      Red Lily | Scientific Name: Lilium umbellatum

      Rubrum Lily ** | Scientific Name: Lilium speciosum cultivar

      Stargazer Lily ** | Scientific Name: Lilium orientalis

      Tiger Lily ** | Scientific Name: Lilium tigrinum

      Wood Lily | Scientific Name: Lilium umbellatum

      (not of the Lilium species)

      Orange Day Lily | Scientific Name: Hemerocallis graminea

      ( ** see notes below)

      Lilies (Lilium species) that may be toxic to dogs if the dog ingests enough:

      NONE!

      Be sure they are from the Liliacea Family, has “Lilium” on the plant label or are common N. American Day Lilies. Some plants with the word “Lily” in the common name are not true Lilium species and may be toxic to other species of animals, always double-check. On further investigation I found out that all plant-parts, the blossoms and pollen being the most toxic, if harvested and dried (for year-round use) are just as deadly toxic to cats (if not more-so because of the unknown toxin being concentrated), and the drying makes them even more palatable to cats. What a great mulch for gardens! (Or powdered spice for a special outdoor can of tuna.)

      ** There have been some anecdotal reports of some free-roaming cats that have spent many years around some of these particular species of plants and still survived. So it is best to harvest, dry, and grind-up the plants and mix them into any appropriate bait-foods to be most effective.

  • Deacon

    These protesters have too much time on their hands. Their priorities are all mixed up.

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