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‘Creature’ discomfort: Facebook page draws chuckles, jeers

It’s called “The Creatures of Lorain County.”

A screenshot of the “Creatures of Lorain County” Facebook page.

A screenshot of the “Creatures of Lorain County” Facebook page.

The Facebook page features a vast array of photos of local residents — many of whom don’t know they are being photographed and have their faces blurred — wearing unusual outfits or parked in haphazard ways. It’s the brainchild of Amy Clark of Elyria, and despite critics that call it online bullying, Clark said it’s just a fun way of drawing attention to the eccentricities of her hometown.

“To me, Lorain County is a different kind of place,” she said.

And, if you ask her, the page is here to stay.

“People love this page,” the 32-year-old Elyria resident said. “It has just blown up overnight.”

David Stewart of Elyria is not a fan.

The 32-year-old father of three would rather see the page disappear. With images of ill-dressed men and women plastered on the page for people to comment on at will, Stewart said the page encourages people to laugh at others’ misfortunes.

“I became aware of the page when it was featured on Fox 8 News about a week ago and as soon as I saw it I thought it was disgusting,” Stewart said. “It’s in poor taste. I would call it flat out bullying.”

In hopes of ridding Facebook of the page — Stewart said his direct pleas to the social media giant have gone ignored — he has created a petition on Change.org calling for the page and all similar pages to be taken down. In addition, Stewart has created The Creatures of the Creatures of Lorain County Facebook page to counteract Clark.

“It’s me acting as a voice to stand up to the online bullying that is represented on that page,” he said. “What I’m seeing — I don’t go on the page or post on the page, but I see what is going on. They have disabled veterans and mentally ill people — making fun of them. A lot of the pictures are of obese, white women wearing unflattering clothing.”

Stewart’s page has garnered 155 likes in the few days it has been up and there are 49 signatures on the petition.

Clark’s page has more of a following — more than 24,000 people at last count.

“We have more people who like the page than don’t like the page,” she said. “People who don’t like the page shouldn’t look at it. I don’t like porn, so I don’t go looking for it, nor do I look at it.”

But even those who don’t go looking for Clark’s brand of humor seem to easily find it.

Aja Romano, a writer for the Daily Dot, which bills itself as the Internet’s community newspaper, was turned onto Clark’s page with a Tumblr link. The link not only referenced Clark’s page, but another page — Sluts of Lorain County — that went up earlier this month, but has been taken down.

Based on many of the photos posted by Clark and others, Romano subsequently wrote an online article, “Is Facebook turning a blind eye to fat shaming?”

“It seemed to me that these two pages existed side-by-side,” said Romano of Bloomsfield, Ind. “But one was taken down in a day and the other was not. Does it surprise me? Yes and no. It surprises me that there has not been more public outrage. One of the quickest ways to get Facebook to react to pages like this is to cause a public outrage.”

Clark said the Sluts of Lorain County page did not belong to her.

“I actually reported that page because there was a 14-year-old child on that page,” she said. “I have no other affiliation but with the Creatures of Lorain County.”

Still, Romano said the page’s existence exposes a double standard within Facebook’s culture and highlights how pervasive ridiculing overweight people has become. At the very least it’s a form of bullying, she said.

“The takeaway from this incident seems to be that it’s totally OK to fat-shame, particularly if you focus on fat-shaming women, but it’s not OK to slut-shame,” Romano wrote earlier this month.

Nonetheless, followers of the Creatures’ page have given Clark praise every step of the way since its inception in April.

“This is a great website for those of us who need a good laugh during the day,” one poster said.

Adds another, “My car is on here and I think it’s the funniest ever! I have people beeping and waving at me now. I love it! Lol”

Still, others let Clark know how they feel once they see an offensive photo.

“This “creature,” as she may be called, probably doesn’t have Internet access thus has no idea that she is posing for people to make fun of her,” said one commenter under a photo of a woman sitting on a brick flowerbed. “Having said that she is probably also mentally ill or handicapped and you should be ashamed for calling her a creature or posting her picture for the enjoyment of others.”

Clark said she came up with the idea for the page because she would take pictures of people and things she thought were funny and posted them to her personal Facebook page. The response was huge.

“People loved them,” she said of the photos. “They thought it was hilarious. Like people walking down the street in footed pajamas — you don’t see that every day.’’

And, she is careful to stay within Facebook’s Community Standards against offensive language or hate speech, which is why she said the page has never been taken down.

“We don’t even have to blur out the faces, but we do it to be nice because it’s local,” she said. “The only time there is a name is when people tag themselves or their friends. They should get mad at their friends about that.’’

Clark said a lot of the photos are submissions. She gets at least 200 a day from people who see something they want on the page or who want to be featured as one of the creatures.

“We weed through them,” she said. “We pick and choose what can go on there and what can’t. We would never post a picture just because it makes fun of someone. It’s more about funny outfits, cars with duct tape or misspelled highway signs. There is one woman who has pink hair and we love her. She is a repeat creature.”

But even the notion of someone being called a creature rubs Stewart the wrong way.

“I’ve lived in Lorain County my entire life and basically I’m trying to fight it,” he said. “Every city has homeless people, disabled veterans or people down on their luck. Putting up a webpage is not going to create any change. We are not going to see a change until we get out there and help people. When was the last time the people who like this page stopped to offer them someone some clothing or something to eat?”

For those who don’t like Creatures of Lorain County, Clark has an alternative.

There is also a Facebook page called Beauties of Lorain County — also not a Clark page, but she is a fan.

“It’s perfect. If you think you are beautiful and want to celebrate your beauty, just send her a picture and the administrator will put it up,’’ Clark said.

That page’s administrator, Rachel Grasso, was once a fan of Clark’s page. In the beginning it was funny, but as the comments turned increasingly meaner, she said she stopped following the page daily.

“But I kept an eye on it to see if I made it up there like some of my friends,” she said.

She started the Beauties of Lorain County to give a platform to a more positive voice.

“Looking at that page, day after day, seeing the negativity — it was so sickening,” she said. “My page has people from all over the county. They are sisters, friends, wives, mothers and grandmothers. Basically, people nominate their friends to be on my page as a way of saying ‘I think you’re beautiful and I appreciate you.’ ”

Not actually friends with Clark, but more of the Facebook-only variety, Grasso, 26, of Lorain, said she understands why the “Creatures” page was started but also doesn’t like what it has become.

“It has just gotten out of hand and too aggressive,” she said.

Contact Lisa Roberson at 329-7121 or lroberson@chroniclet.com.

  • Bob Owens

    If it’s so innocent then get the people to sign a release.

  • Beth

    I love this page. I don’t always dress my best either, now its a joke in my family: Are we going to end up on the creature page?
    This is the internet, sometimes people post things you don’t like. Go look at pictures of kittens and calm down.

  • K Gi

    It’s adult bullying, plain and simple. Grow up and delete the page.

  • bret959

    You know bravo amy for making that page. If you dress or act like the things posted you should be made fun of .people wake up that’s why no new businesses want to come here look at the people . If you can’t take pride in your apperaance then what makes you think somone is going to hire you.thays why lorain county is in the shape it is look at the people in it. Take some pride people

    • Melody

      What about autistic people? Who may sometimes make wardrobe mistakes and fit the so-called “creature” profile for this page by being dressed funny but looking like a completely normal person at the same time.

      Besides it’s not all about how people dress. They make fun of disabled people, overweight people dressed completely normal. They take photos of people in places that should NEVER be made public. It’s harassing people, slander/libel, breaking privacy laws, and the new cyber laws.

      • bret959

        just so happens i have a autistic friend and asked him your question . and i quoat ” dude i would hope you wouldnt let me go out looking bad . i said nope never your my friend that what friends do .

        • Melody

          That’s great! Glad you you support him and help him out when he needs it. Not everyone has someone like you to lean on. (Note: I’m not saying ALL or limited to autistic individuals, that was just one example.)

  • larry rant

    I don’t see the difference between this page and The People of Walmart page….ohhh is it because you might get on this page and not the other??

    • David Stewart

      The difference is, the disclaimer for people of walmart, they have to get the consent of the people they want to take pics of, and you have to be over 18, unlike the creatures page!

      • hottamomma

        well the courts should have to get my release to take a red light camera pic of me!

        • David Stewart

          are you serious, you are running a red light that can cause an accident, and you feel that the courts need consent. LOL really! I have more to say but I rather not say it, I would like to not stoop to that level.Oh yea and btw, those cam pics are not being put on a public page for people’s entertainment!! food for thought !!

          • hottamomma

            dont hate cause i have my own opinion, thats stupid. anybody that dont agree with u go into rage, geesh. most people who run red lights look both ways before doing so there is no accident. just people running from the law or drunk dont look both ways. u must have a lot to hide, so i wont say what really want to say. ha ha

          • David Stewart

            There is not hate in the “opinion” I have stated, and calling it stupid is a form of discrimination stating that I must be stupid because I hate your opinion. Either way running a red light is breaking the law, red lights are for safety, so those camera’s are not invading your privacy, nor are the pic’s taken from those cam’s being posted to an audience to be ridiculed. as for me to have something to hide, that will just be left as your opinion, I am allowed to show anger towards things, but instead of going off on “you” and making a huge fool of myself, I chose the latter and did not do so.

          • hottamomma

            whatever, laws r made to be broken, if they wasnt then we wouldnt need policeman and judges. its not against the law to take pics of people either so the page isnt breaking the law. the chronicle does it all the time as well as artist and photographers like google, plus its to late u already made a HUGE fool of urself. ha ha ha

          • David Stewart

            Your defense is invalid, Nobody was stating it is against the law to take pictures and post them, but as taking these pictures, and pretty much making fun of, slashing or bashing them, and in some cases making “verbal Threats” can make it against the law. A police officer man or woman is sworn to serve and protect. And as far as making a HUGE fool of myself, well being a humble passionate person standing up for the right things makes me proud. I am helping others that may have been hurt with no voice to stand up against hate and bullies, as you are promoting the “immature” behavior.

            “Any fool can turn a blind eye but who knows what the ostrich sees in the sand.”
            ― Samuel Beckett, Murphy

          • hottamomma

            im standing up for the comedians, and the right to post whatever you want on your own facebook page. the enquirer does it all the time, do you have a protest against them?? we r adults remember sticks and stones may break my bones. ― Charles Martin, The Mountain Between Us.

          • David Stewart

            My protest is for Lorain county, Its against hate and bullying, so once again your defense is invalid. Look at the freedom of speech amendment, read all of it, and see how what I am doing protects me. Understand that if somebody had there picture posted to that page, and stood up for themselves, that not only are they allowed to, but the followers are in return bashing them once again in which is taking their freedom of speech away. The word hypocrite has been thrown around a lot, and directed towards me, a lot, but I guess not everybody can be mature. And as for the comedians, there is a stage for that!!

          • hottamomma

            facebook is a digital stage. what about the people that r charged with a crime and they put there pics in the paper or 19 action news facebook page. are you protesting against that also?? remember u r innocent until proven guilty so there is no reason for ur pic and what they r accusing u of the be in the paper. right?. if not then ur defense is invalid, u cant protest on facebook page and not protest the chronicles page also. thats discrimination agaisnt other facebook pages

          • David Stewart

            WOw!! so you are telling me that 19 action news, is posting these pictures to “hurt” these criminals? Or that the Chronicle is posting pictures to bash people? I got a real good laugh at this last comment from you. Give me a law that says that I am not “allowed” to protest a digital media right, give me a law that it is “discrimination” against a virtual page! What I am doing has been done and is still being done today my bigger non profit organizations. I don’t see you sticking up for your so-called “comedians” to them. Show me proof of these so-called laws you are stating, and then maybe then I will view you as a credible person. Until then good luck trolling!!

          • hottamomma

            u r not a criminal until proven guilty, but maybe u r not smart enough to know that tsk tsk! people bash people on this chronicle page all the time even u on here bullying! so i guess one of those pics on the creatures of lorain county is of you. which r u the tampon bandit? u r more of a bully than that facebook page! so u r definitely not credible! until next time keep prostituting!

          • David Stewart

            Its obvious I am acting a such a bully that I am pathetically making untrue statement of other’s by bashing them, being hateful. Lets see here, you have called me stupid, then you imply I have been on the page as the “tampon” bandit. How mature of you. I have yet to bully anyone, I have yet to stoop to the moron level. I have yet to even make the page. There is the freedom of speech and the freedom of press in which protects such company’s like the chronicle and 19 action news. Guess what, I am not going away, I will keep fighting, and I will keep teaching my kids that being a bully, and being disrespectful is wrong. You need to get over yourself.

          • hottamomma

            the freedom of the creatures of lorain county press!. we r grown adults, we cant be bullied. people r to soft these days. ive been on one of my friends facebook page and was ridiculed by people, but i have pride and i dont care what othes say about me im grown it dont hurt, some of it was even funny ( like u). alot of these adults these days r acting like a bunch of preschoolers. oh he or she said this or that about my picture. so what is it gonna kill you, are u that weak. its just fun and games, but some people are just stiffs. u r saying its alright for the press to ridicule someone but not non press people, thats not fair.

          • David Stewart

            Good for you for not being hurt, we should all be like you!! congrats on being more superior than the rest. I don’t get my feelings hurt, nor do I care what people think of me. This is why I am giving my voice for other people who may have problems like autism, or any other social problem in which they can’t protect themselves. The people acting as preschoolers are the one’s making fun of others due to there misfortunes. Its all fun and games until somebody is hurt, and then what. If you have such a problem with the “press” to ridicule people then do something about it, that is your problem not mine.

          • hottamomma

            i dont have a problem with the press, i was saying u are against someone who is dos the press. u r picking and choosing. everybody is suppose to be treated equal that includes people in wheelchairs and everything else. no wif they dont want to be treated equal we can do that to. but most of them want to be treated equal, so they can be joked about too. but i know u have ur opinion that is what make us unique. we r a country that is separated so we wont be standing much longer

          • hottamomma

            also just like someone else said if u dont like it dont look at it. if u dont like horror then y would u look at one? if dont like sears y would u go there. same goes for the facebook page if u dont like it then why in the world would u go there? i know y, to keep stuff stirred

          • David Stewart

            no you are wrong, I go to that page because I have a son with autism who has been bullied. I stand up and fight for him, and you know what, I go to that page to make sure he don’t make that page. No need to disclose his age, but believe me, if his picture is posted I will start a lawsuit immediately. If you have such a problem with me standing up for stuff like that, then turn the other cheek, and mind your own!!

    • Melody

      True. People of walmart gets permission to post photos.

    • Melody

      This site does not get permission unlike people of walmart. Even with blurred faces its still does not protect the person in the photos.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=681535604 Tish Palos

    So if it is bullying what about the people of walmart page that is from Wal-Mart? They do it all the time I don’t hear people complaining about that….. IJS

    • Melody

      Its call consent from the subject. Something “People of walmart” gets before posting pics of someone!

  • seanmacnair

    Jeez, if you call “bullying” on everything then the word loses meaning. Just wait for the next buzzword and get in on that one ahead of everyone else.

    • Melody

      Harassing and hate. Call it what you want, It is what it is!

  • jamie bryner

    this amy clark is a liar….she reprted a page for having a 14 year old on it but yet she posted a picture OF my 14 year old???? and its not the first time ive seen kids on there and it IS illegal to take someomes picture n post it without their.consent..noone knew her name til now…so now they know who to.go after….and all the sociL.media is doing is publicisizing her online.bullying……what about the mother whc was charged for pretending to b a boy and bullied the girl into killong herself alot of adults are victimss to sucide also..it is bullying

    • Carol Jones

      she also “stole” a pic from my page and out it on there stating someone sent it to her which is a lie…..When i message her she called me a “b***” and told me i was too old to be getting this upset……so don’t believe that all these pics get sent to her because they do not.

      • Melody

        I think she is too old to be bullying people.

    • hottamomma

      the enquirer take pics of people kids all the time

      • Melody

        I guess they can afford the lawsuits or the families were paid to allow it.

        • hottamomma

          its not against the law to take pics of someone kids, halle berry is trying to get that changed now. but until she gets it changed its not against the law

  • Amber Weekman

    This post contradicts what she said to The Chronicle: “We pick and choose what can go on there and what can’t. We would never post a picture just because it makes fun of someone.” Read the heading she put up!

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=482175005210384&set=a.438567629571122.1073741827.438560816238470&type=1&theater

    • Melody

      opps looks like they decided that one needed to go. The whole site should go too!

  • Chipper

    it’s so hysterical that this page is getting so much publicity. if you don’t like it, don’t like or follow it. just like a particular radio DJ or tv commentator, if you don’t like what they have to say or how they say it, don’t listen/watch. nobody makes you like/follow FB pages.
    There aren’t just pics of obese people. There are also pics of people being caught in unflattering acts, folks driving around with “loads” in/on their vehicle. There aren’t pics of mentally ill people or disabled veterans. If there are, then prove it.
    It is just downright hilarious how some people dress, drive and act. This page just allows for what most of us think in “private” to have a forum to say it “publicly”.
    Seriously, tell me that if you see an overweight woman in skin tight scretch pants, an overloaded, beatup pickup truck driving around or someone passed out in an “unflattering” position that you aren’t going to think or say something “negative” or funny about it. if you say no, you’re a liar. everyone does.
    Plain and simple, get over it.

    • Melody

      Give people an option to NOT be on the page. Not every disabled person is in a wheelchair. Other people have “hidden” disabilities that make them a target to this kind of bullying. Teach people to accept these people not laugh at them and make it worse. If the page was having fun WITH the person in the photo it would not be a problem. But they are not they are doing it at their expense. Its one thing to go into a store to be made fun of… its another to have someone take a photo and upload it to a site to have 25 thousand people put you down and harass you.

  • Tomahawk903

    America isn’t easy. America is advanced citizenship. You gotta want it bad, ’cause it’s gonna put up a fight. It’s gonna say “You want free speech? Let’s see you acknowledge a man or woman whose words make your blood boil, who’s standing center stage and advocating at the top of his or her lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can’t just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his or her right to burn that flag in protest. Show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then, you can stand up and sing about the “land of the free”.-Michael Douglas

  • William Mitchell

    Good to know that bullying doesn’t stop after high school.

  • Andrea Colella-Myers

    I’m from Lorain born and raised and i have alot of family still there and i think its a great page, people just need to pull the sticks from the rear and stop taking it so seriously we all have bad wardrobe choices and or do lil dumb things we dont expect to be caught but the truth is there are cameras everywhere and if these ladies dont take your pic trust me someone else is. Like i tell them keep up the good work, keep Lorain County on their toes. :)

    • David Stewart

      we all also don’t need to be put on blast either. This page is doing nothing for the city of lorain but showing how divided we are. There is a time right after highschool were we grow up, well some of us anyway!

  • David Stewart

    I am overall not too happy with the outcome of this story, yes I am fighting for it, and there are many untruths here. If you scroll through the comments of many of the pictures, you will see nasty comments, you will see hurtful comments, and in 1 of the comments were a lawn tech van was parked a certain way, a follower stated if he was there he would have flattened all the tires. You can’t tell me this page is only for entertainment. Basically all this story did was get more and more people to follow that page, and silence the people who are being a target. If you want to help out start here, https://www.change.org/petitions/remove-the-creatures-of-lorain-county-facebook-page-and-delete-others-like-them-immediately

  • lacy

    I love how the faces are blurred out yet u just put this girls info all out there making her a target to harassment….I think u may be a hypocrite. you should learn to practice what u preach

    • Melody

      She can say she’s not doing this or that. No matter how many times she is quoted on TV or the paper…. it simply does not make it true because she says it.

  • Phil Blank

    No big deal here, she stole the idea from the web site “Peopleofwalmart”

  • Phil Blank

    On the other hand, its bad for the county. After outsiders see this page, no one will bother to come to the area.

    • David Stewart

      Phil you hit the head on the nail!! How is our community supposed to grow? If businesses that considered moving here see this page, they probably will decide to go somewhere else. Lorain needs more business to help us grow and become a better place to live, not more negativity!!

      • Chipper

        are you kidding?? have you not seen downtown Lorain?? all outsiders have to do is drive into the city and realize what a pit it is. Look at all of the vacant buildings and the crime rate. Lorain is almost as bad as Detroit. It’s up to the people who live in Lorain, Elyria, etc to step up and get their “stuff” together. Don’t blame a Facebook page.

        • David Stewart

          Hey chipper, Yes you are right, with broadway like that, but the city is actually tearing down abandoned buildings or Scars to the city in which I applaud. And the total blame is not on a facebook page, but by that facebook exposing even more, it helps make lorain look even worse. I also agree we as the people need to step up, but not to be ridiculed in front of an audience.

    • Melody

      Or worse our enemy’s will enjoy it and/or take this as a sign of weakness.

  • Phil Blank

    Google “The Creatures of Lorain County”
    You’ll find some interesting YouTube and news videos.

  • Andrea Colella-Myers

    I thought this was an open forum but at last its Lorain County so yeah i’m sure certain things won’t get posted lol. Maybe we should all learn to use the block button or this is an idea dont go on the page if you dont like it, this is still AMERICA and we can say and do what we want too. :)

    • David Stewart

      Just because you own a gun, does not give you the right to shoot people now does it. So just because you have the freedom of speech still does not give you the right to judge and or make fun of peoples misfortunes. It is not about the “block” button as this is your only defense. Its about morals, being mature and grown up.

      • Tom

        In my opinion I think we do need to grow up and be able to laugh at ourselves and each other. Don’t take it personal if you got on this page, it’s something dumb and funny. Everyone is so sensitive these days. Have some self-esteem and move on with your life.

        • David Stewart

          I agree with only part of your reply, The growing up part, but as I have yet to make the page, it has not directly came to me being hurt. But with people I personally know, and others that have no way of knowing they are on the page to defend themselves is plain out immature. There is a recent post on the creatures page that the pic was taken in a hospital, and then another one were a woman is wearing a white tank top, presumably with no bra, and they are making fun of her boobs. I mean come on, you say we need to grow up and be able to laugh at ourselves, but being childish over the situation is plain pathetic.

          • Tom

            David I definitely understand your point. It can get to a point where it’s ridiculous and people are just plain being demeaning. I think there should be a better filter to make sure posts like your examples aren’t put on that page.

          • David Stewart

            Honestly tom its not just me, it just so happens that I am the more outspoken one. Thanks!!

        • Melody

          If that is true, get consent. Otherwise it’s wrong on many levels. Lawsuits waiting to happen over there!

        • Melody

          So in your opinion we should all be like you? Others have the right to be sensitive. I’m not sensitive and can laugh at things but I know when its the wrong time to laugh. Laughing at someone, publicly shaming someone, is one of those times, its wrong.

    • Melody

      Maybe you should brush up on what freedom of speech is and isn’t.

      “Most forms of speech are protected by the First Amendment, but there are exceptions for speech that does not add to public debate or may cause harm.”
      ^ This includes defamation, fighting words, harassment, etc.

      Also the “First Amendment” does not protect you when it’s otherwise breaking laws.

      Look it up! :)

  • hottamomma

    oh my god that is tooooooo funny!!!!!

  • David Stewart

    For those who have missed it, here is the petition you can sign to help the removal of the page https://www.change.org/petitions/remove-the-creatures-of-lorain-county-facebook-page-and-delete-others-like-them-immediately But lets not get it twisted, I am not only against “the creatures” page I am against the hate, the racism, the bullying as well. I have plans to go forward to help our community, even if I am unsuccessful, I feel the need to stand up and help out!

  • brian

    simple solution to staying off the FB page

    1.) stop dressing like complete trash

    2.) stop doing stupid sh%* in public

    3.) if your overweight, buy cloths your size, not the size you were 20 years ago, nobody wants to see that anyways.

    • David Stewart

      Have you ever thought that some people just can’t afford new clothes? Have you ever thought about some people have some type of disability so they can’t stop doing things like that in public. Have you ever thought that the temps outside are hot and a good way to stay cool is wearing light clothes? You say you have a right to freedom of speech, yet you want to take away everyone’s right to wear comfortable clothes on hot days, and there right to be who they are. Nobody makes you endure what people wear and do in public, if you don’t like it you have 2 real good options. 1.) Don’t look at them, 2.) maybe you can help them out, go and talk with them, get to know em, maybe if they are poor you can donate to them!

      • brian

        ever hear of salvation army? did i speak of the disabled, NO! i never said anything about light cloths, CLOTHS THAT FIT….READ!!! i am also pretty sure i never mentioned taking somebodies rights away, did I? and just so you know, I DON’T LOOK AT THEM, id much rather look at somebody properly dressed, wearing cloths that fit them and the occasion. I hardly believe the occasion is right for an extremely obese individual to wear a bikini top into giant eagle? do you?

        • Melody
          • Chipper

            Hey Melody,
            what’s wrong with how this guy is dressed? nothing, right???

          • guest

            No way…

          • Chipper

            yep. I guess this guy is too poor to tighten his belt even tighter or was doing something with the gas tank hole.

          • Melody

            He is exposed in public. That is not an acceptable in public. Period. Nor does is her protected from his first amendment right with this.

          • Chipper

            I guess, this woman is too mentally ill to realize that a wife-beater should not be worn as anything but a shirt.

          • Melody

            That is her expression AND HER FIRST AMENDMENT right to wear it.

            It’s not something I would put on but then again I’m not her.

          • ridiculousness

            I distinctly remember the derogatory caption that was posted with this picture. Let me refresh the memory to some that it was referring to this person’s size. I won’t repeat it. Just remember who posts the pics and the captions…Amy…

          • ridiculousness

            I distinctly remember the derogatory caption that was posted with this picture. Let me refresh the memory to some that it was referring to this person’s size. I won’t repeat it. Just remember who posts the pics and the captions…Amy…

        • David Stewart

          Brian, for one I am not god, I have no room to judge, so for me to even comment on an obese individual going into giant eagle wearing a bikini is just not right. But, No matter who it is, what size they may be, just like you have the right to freedom of speech, they have the right to go out wearing clothes like that without being ridiculed! I never said that you stated anything about disabilities, I only asked if you have ever thought about that, like think before you speak kinda thing. and as far as the rights being taken away, I quote you,”3.) if your overweight, buy cloths your size, not the size you were 20 years ago, nobody wants to see that anyways.”. You are saying here if you are overweight, that you are not allowed to wear what you want when you want, but isn’t that a right we all have? Take your anger issue’s elsewhere.

        • hottamomma

          hey brian im with u, but that big person wearing that to giant eagle was good for her, cause if shes that obese i know she was hot as h*ll! lmao! lol lol lol. some people on here are to sensitive, act like kids, cause adults cant be bullied

  • Melody

    Our schools try to stop bullying among kids and now these grown ups set this for an example? What kind of message is this? To me it shows kids being bullied their is no hope, the bullying never stops. You have no rights except bend over and take it. Yes bullies are everywhere but this is taking our rights away. I’ve personally been harassed by speaking up about this page being a voice for someone that does not have one.

    For those that say, Free Speech? Have any of you read the constitution? It specifically says we have freedom of speech to “Protects all individual rights by ensuring that people can speak up when their rights have been violated without fear of repercussions.” and says also states: “Most forms of speech are protected by the First Amendment, but there are EXCEPTIONS for speech that does not add to public debate or may CAUSE HARM.” and that also INCLUDES “defamation, incitement to riot, fighting words, harassment, privileged communications..” If you REALLy want to get into it – you are taking OUR right away to express ourself how we want to by dressing how we want without fear of repercussions.

    Privacy issues… What if someone is pictured and they have legal issues or have a protection order? This is a HUGE concern for some of them. What about those in need being photographed, judged, and degraded for going into the welfare office? What about those that are being posted in ER’s and hospitals for wearing something “funny.” In a true emergency who cares what you are wearing. But to know it never ends because you have your photo taken and posted to the biggest website without your knowledge or consent.

    I encourage anyone that is on this page to bring legal action. It’s your right! We have laws to protect us from stuff like this.

    This is not entertaining to those that are the subject of the content on the website. This is real not TV, made up story. This is peoples life.

    • Bob Sweatt

      Whether you like it or not. It’s Mrs. Clark right to have the page. Like I said in my comment. Their faces are blurred out. There is no need for any release if you can’t determine the person face or Identity.

      Just like you. Mrs. Clark is covered under the right to free speech.

      And again. If you don’t like the page. Then don’t follow it. It’s that plain and simple.

      • David Stewart

        A lot of follower’s on that page follow to make sure they are not posted as a creature, they stay quiet and to themselves just waiting to pounce. But with the followers on the page, if somebody was posted, and then attempts to defend themselves, they get bashed by multiple people. so essentially, by standing up for themselves, you are silencing there right to free speech. It goes both ways.

        • Bob Sweatt

          Ok I’m going to respond to all your comments right here.

          First if a person chooses to keep quiet and keep silent. How is that having their freedom of speech taken away>. They willing made the choice to not say anything. No one is taking away their ability to express their opinion. Much like people wanting C. of L.C. taking down are trying to do to Ms. Clark.

          This is what you put about Freedom of speech, “”defamation, incitement to riot, fighting words, harassment, privileged communications” It is humorous how people think someone’s opinion or common criticism is Defamation. And Please show me where C.of L.C. did anything of the things you said. And I mean the page itself, not the people making comments on the pictures posted. Because the only people I see incitement of a riot, fighting word or harassment are the people complaining about the pictures or the comments.

          And last but not least. It is only a threat if you never plan on following though with it.

          • David Stewart

            Bob, I seen a reply post that you have an autistic child, I am sorry and I know that it can be rough. As with a lot of the comments on there page, you can see hostility towards some of the pics. When I saw what you wrote I was fumed as I used to work with that company years and years ago. I have seen 1 person on there and I won’t state any more names saying he wanted to fight some of the people who stuck up for the pictures. Others just bash them without even thinking twice as to what they had said. I agree that we are all grown ups, but damn man we can have fun and laugh at the same time as acting our age!! as with not being able to tell if they have a mental disability, we all have a choice to comment or not, sometimes it is hard to figure that one out, but when the decision comes, it is tottaly up to the person if they are going to bash or not. We make tough enough choices getting out of bed, as I feel the choice to comment in a negative manner vs. not comment at all is rather easy.

  • fiftymiles

    Lorain County seems to have an increasingly high number of people who are shameless and offensive in their appearance…trashy, vulgar, sleazy, inappropriate, etc. Who cares if these sightings appear on-line, just go into any local store or business in this area and you can’t escape it!! At least on Facebook you can choose not to view it if you want…but real life, it smacks you in the face! The majority of the pictures are either funny or shocking (people trying to get a laugh or those who sorely lack self-respect). My hope is that Creatures of Lorain County will cause people to think twice about how they are viewed in public and take more pride in themselves!

    • David Stewart

      You have a choice, turn your head and don’t stare at them, don’t pay attention to them. Its only your problem if you make it your problem. It is also not a sore lack of respect, its who they are, again they could be poor. and since you say that its already in our faces, I don’t see 25,000 of you walking around together and pointing it out as you do sitting behind your mobile phone and/or computer screen!!

  • Melody

    Look at the Petition – People voice their concern, they fear the public because of this page. Afraid someone will snap a photo of them or someone they know with a disability.

    One person wrote: “I shouldn’t have to fear bullying for myself or my 3 year old daughter with a genetic disorder which makes her visually different from others.”

    Another wrote: “People should not be bullied because of things they can’t help”

    Others voiced their concern by private messages not wanting to be identified.

    To sign the petition or Read more here: https://www.change.org/petitions/remove-the-creatures-of-lorain-county-facebook-page-and-delete-others-like-them-immediately

    We are taking rights away by allowing this cruel behavior. It’s sad that we are referring to adults as the bullies, as this is the typical behavior we see among kids. Kids that have not yet been thought this is not acceptable behavior.

    • Bob Sweatt

      “We are taking rights away by allowing this cruel behavior.”

      How about the right to free speech. You talk about taking rights away. But you are advocating doing the same by getting this page taken down.

      Make up your mind…

      • David Stewart

        The biggest problem that people don’t understand is the misinterpretation of freedom of speech. Find the amendment and read exactly what it says, it does protect us from repercussions, and there are EXCEPTIONS for speech that does not add to public debate or may CAUSE HARM.” and that also INCLUDES “defamation, incitement to riot, fighting words, harassment, privileged communications

  • David Stewart

    For those of you saying the page is like peopleofwalmart!!

    http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/about-the-people-of-walmart/

  • ridiculousness

    Oh yes, it’s really funny?? Amy lies in these interviews. The entire site pokes fun of people. Supposedly not the intention of the page but that is exactly what it is. And there are people commenting that Amy is their hero?? Some role-model. The whole page makes fun of overweight people, poor people, homeless, some mentally ill, and even some normal people doing things she thinks are odd. I don’t care if she takes the picutures or if they are submitted by others.
    She and her buddy Sarah are the people that post and caption stirring up a frenzy of comments to also poke fun. And if someone defends a victim in comments they get badgered by others including Amy and are told to quit whining, leave the page etc.etc. So for those that oppose what she has done you don’t have free speach to do so on her page (unless you are bashing one of her victims.) I have not commented once on anything on her page and don’t intend to. I have never liked the page and hope it’s shut down soon. I do have a question for the public though. What makes this Amy such a good role model to you? What honorable act is she doing for this society. Yet some people are bashing Mr. Stewart for opposing this page as a voice for those that have fallen prey to the “entertainment purposes” of Amy, Sarah, and the rest of her family of followers! Way to go Lorain County. I am sincerely proud of your behavior as a whole!! Maybe a parade to honor Amy?? Or a holiday named after her?? Surely not my hero!!

  • Bob Sweatt

    I don’t know if anyone has said this yet about the whole getting the people to sign a release.

    if you are showing their faces. then yes they would need to sign a release. But since the faces are blurred out. there is no need for a release.

    Watch COPS sometime if a criminals face is blurred out. It’s because they refuse to sign a release.

    And get over yourselves. Making this woman take down this page would be like telling her she has no Freedom of Speech.

    • David Stewart

      hey bob does this look familiar? You made this comment on the page towards the lawn tech truck. You stated you would have flattened all the tires if you were there. Sorry mr sweatt, as I see it that is a verbal threat.

    • Melody

      People have a right to privacy and this is not providing people privacy – take a look at these currently on this site: Welfare shame mug shots, mentally disabled, doctors offices, hospitals, the ER, come on…. None of this is freedom of speech…. its breaking laws!

      • Bob Sweatt

        Sorry just saw this post.

        Right people have their right to privacy. But NOT in a public place.

        The only way the privacy thing comes into play is if the pictures were taken through the person bedroom window.

  • Naomi Kropp

    maybe this will encourage more people to dress properly

    • Bob Sweatt

      Let’s hope. I am not fashion plate myself. But I know what and what not to wear.

      • Melody

        So do I. However some people do not. And its not always their fault. I’m close to someone that just does not understand all the social rules and fashion do’s and don’t. He looks completely healthy but fits the “creature” profile well. He has a developmental disability that falls under the term “Autism” and clothing styles (mistakes) are a common. Should he been picked on? Because this page attaches all. Even if he was posted and fought to get it removed (even without a voice to stand up for himself) that would mean he would have to announce his autism. Why should he need to disclose this to protect himself when adults can just behave themselves?!

        • Bob Sweatt

          Ok I feel for you. my son is autistic. But how is anyone who takes or view the picture suppose to know what the person in the pictures state of mind is??

          To look at my son you couldn’t tell he is autistic. But he is.

          • Melody

            Exactly!

    • Melody

      And take peoples first amendment away? You know that carries over to clothing giving an individual the right to expression self through clothing…

      Or should we all follow this pages recommended style guide. All of us can look the same, dress matchy matchy, and act the same way. Even then I guess the overweight would have to lose weight or be subject to public bashing. I see a resemblance of all being the “same” with Hitler or past cults.

  • Melody

    “We don’t even have to blur out the faces, but we do it to be nice because it’s local,” she said. “The only time there is a name is when people tag themselves or their friends. They should get mad at their friends about that.’’ – See more at: http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2013/07/16/creature-discomfort-facebook-page-draws-chuckles-jeers/#comment-964908634

    Not true, Not all post have blurred faces, even if they are the comments still hurt others that know its them.

    Here is a photo of them bashing a mother say she does not deserve the child also pictured as well as fat shaming her. Her face is NOT blurred. Honestly I think its worse that people teach this kind of hate to their own and other children than a child getting dirty. Dirty washes off in a bath, hate does not! Our schools are trying to teach kids to STOP bullying and this page say to keep on.

  • Sara Burns

    Chronicle ratings just went up. This is like the most action the chronicles ever seen. COLC forever!!!

  • Sara Burns

    Chronicle ratings just went up. This is like the most action the chronicles ever seen. COLC forever!!!

    • ridiculousness

      So proud of yourself, how sad…

    • Melody

      Good for you being able to laugh AT other people when they are not laughing WITH you….

      I’m sure you are a real pleasure for the school(s) that your children attend. They are trying to stop the bullying. You are encouraging it and participating.

      What a shame.

  • JTyed

    I’ve lived in Lorain all my life as well & this page nor it’s pictures bother me, it is a fact that if you don’t like the page, don’t visit it & scroll through it. And legally, this person is allowed to put up pictures of people as long as they do not show their faces or give any names unless that person does give a consent, so she technically is not doing anything wrong.

    • Melody

      Nothing wrong? Privacy is a concern! Harrassing is a concern. Safety is a concern.

      Pictures posted of people WITHOUT blurred faces in the ER, welfare office, doctors offices for starters. People commenting make threats to people.

      Public shaming ended long ago and that is exactly what the page is doing except in this case the only crime they committed was dressing how they wanted, part of their first amendment right.

      • ridiculousness

        Way to go Amy, Sara, and your followers. What a good lesson for the children/teenagers of Lorain County. As if Lorain County isn’t full of hate and crime already. Kids are already assaulting and shooting each other. As a medical professional I have already seen enough teenagers bullet riddled, stabbed and beaten up. Some of them didn’t make it. I have seen the lifeless bodies. It’s a damn shame that these already vulnerable kids are going to learn from your pathetic example. Someone is going to end up hurt or dead stemming from your idiotic brainstorm of “entertainment.”

  • unknown aunt

    This site is nothing more then BULLING……I sure hope the owner of this site has no children. As children learn from their parents. How would this woman like it to find out her kid was being bullied from someone just like her?
    some people may not dress the best every time they leave the house yet i have to ask why is it your business to call them out?

  • Christina Scaff

    How is this page any worse than a celebrity best/worst dress page in a magazine? It’s OK to judge those people but not your neighbors or friends? If you say you’ve never even in your head you are lying. And furthermore it’s not like Amy is going out and interview ring these people she doesn’t know whose homeless, or mental, you cannot always tell. Also “true fans” know she isn’t fat shaming so you guys can just drop that crap she posts pics of all types not just a certain kind of body type if that where the case I’d say something myself!

    • Melody

      Nobody said it was OK for anyone to do this, local or not. Regardless if she or the other woman know it or not…. They ARE posting people that are homeless and with disabilities, sometimes even when its clear! They ARE fat shaming. Some captions say things like…. “FAT NASTY, B****!” And overweight people posted with nothing wrong with how they are dressed and not doing anything odd. Nobody says its just one type of person she is posting.

    • ridiculousness

      Christina, our point exactly!! Thank you…she doesn’t interview them or know their circumstances. She has no clue what they have been through, what their circumstances are, or why they may dress or do things they do. Some people do not know any better and can’t help themselves, or may not even know where their next meal is coming from. But that gives Amy and Sara the right to put them on display to be made fun of and ridiculed?

  • Lindsay Falk

    Get a sense of humor, Dave Stewart.

    • David Stewart

      I have a great sense of humor Lindsay, But I do not show a level of immaturity on a public page. I grew up after high school. too bad you guys can’t see that nor respect it.

      • Lindsay Falk

        The Creatures of the Creatures of Lorain County also have great senses of humor… it’s noticeable in the way they dress and conduct themselves in public.

        • David Stewart

          Its no better than you “publicly” bashing me on this page now is it?

        • David Stewart

          Oh and then you come to my page, and do a little bit more, on another public page. Good for you!

          • Lindsay Falk

            Freedom of Speech David… The Creatures of Lorain County page is not physically harming anyone so I don’t see the issue. We laugh at these people when we see them in public so what’s the difference if we laugh at them on the internet too?

          • ridiculousness

            But it will eventually come to physical harm and you know it. It all starts with the adults and the examples they set. If the adults cannot be civilized and respectful, how will the kids know any better. The adults seem to be behaving worse and acting more immature than the kids these days.

          • ridiculousness

            Do you have any idea what it is like to see a deceased teenager with a bullet in their head? Or trying to save them but to no avail….over idiocies?

          • ridiculousness

            C’mon Lorain County…this is really about your morals and what is in your hearts and conscience. To everyone that is enjoying the Creatures of Lorain County Website, you all should really take a good look at yourselves and re-evaluate your behavior, words, and actions.

          • Melody

            harming someone is not just limited to “physical”

  • K Gi

    And… it has been shut down! Thanks all for the excellent effort to get that pile of crap shut down!

  • Jamie Smith

    I agree with the other that this is nothing but adult bullying. I saw a picture of the page owner and she isn’t very pretty at all. I bet she may have been bullied herself in the past and is just trying to make herself feel better because of that. How sad someone would do that…Shame on her. There is so much hate in this world and to add to it is just crazy.