November 22, 2014


Citizen committee formed to reduce feral cat problems

NORTH RIDGEVILLE — Knowing problems with feral animals aren’t going away, the city is forming a citizen’s advisory committee to help determine local measures residents can take to reduce wild cats and other creatures.

Making such efforts effective will require “a lot of volunteers and grassroots stuff,” Friendship APL director Greg Willey said. “How the community will deal with this issue remains to be seen.”

The committee is to be headed by William Snyder, a former APL board member who lives in North Ridgeville, according to Willey.

Snyder and Police Chief Mike Freeman have reportedly met to begin discussing how the committee will function and what steps its members may take to try and reduce problems with feral cats.

Neither could be reached Tuesday.

Meetings of the citizens group are anticipated to begin by the end of September or early October, Gillock said.

Formation of the group is a response to criticism the city experienced in the aftermath of a June 10 incident in which Humane Officer Barry Accorti shot and killed five kittens after a resident called for assistance in getting rid of a mother cat and her offspring that were living in a woodpile behind the woman’s house.

Gillock said he views the volatile backlash by outraged residents and animal advocate groups demanding Accorti’s firing as “more of a social media issue than anything else.”

Once it got out on Facebook and the Internet, the whole thing just exploded,” Gillock said.

The mayor again asserted the incident and its very public aftermath were the result of a lack of communications between Accorti and the resident.

“It should have had a little better handling,” Gillock said.

Gillock still receives letters, including some form letters, and emails from people demanding Accorti be dismissed.

The longtime officer was cleared of wrongdoing by Freeman, who concluded Accorti acted in accordance with local regulations governing situations involving feral animals.

About a month after the incident, Gillock announced the city would no longer respond to calls for help in dealing with feral cats by police or humane officers, who are employed by the Police Department.

Because the mother cat was not trapped the day of the kitten shootings, the same problem of proliferating cat populations exists, according to Willey.

“That same mom can have kittens again and again, and we’re back to square one,” Willey said. “That’s where things such as trap-neuter-release can help.”

The APL has yet to receive any calls for help from North Ridgeville residents since the kittens’ shooting, according to Willey.

“What we’d really like to see is to have measures in place that residents can take rather than relying solely on local government to intervene,” Willey said.

Those local steps could range from making people aware of and getting access to low-cost spay-neuter clinics that “are as cheap as what most vets charge for euthanizing cats, which is around $20,” Willey said. “In communities where things like this have been done, we’ve seen an impact almost right away.”

The city will also make animal traps available to residents who ask for them.

“The worst thing we can do is nothing,” Gillock said.


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  • Woodsman001

    Conclusions on all TNR practices now direct from the CDC
    (URL: onlinelibrary.wiley D0T com SLASH doi/10.1111/zph.12070/abstract )


    Domestic cats are an important part of many Americans’ lives, but effective control of the 60-100 million feral cats living throughout the country remains problematic. Although trap-neuter-vaccinate-return (TNVR) programmes are growing in popularity as alternatives to euthanizing feral cats, their ability to adequately address disease threats and population growth within managed cat colonies is dubious. Rabies transmission via feral cats is a particular concern as demonstrated by the significant proportion of rabies post-exposure prophylaxis associated with exposures involving cats. Moreover, TNVR has not been shown to reliably reduce feral cat colony populations because of low implementation rates, inconsistent maintenance, and immigration of unsterilized cats into colonies. For these reasons, TNVR programmes are not effective methods for reducing public health concerns or for controlling feral cat populations. Instead, responsible pet ownership, universal rabies vaccination of pets and removal of strays remain integral components to control rabies and other diseases.

    (end summary, bold emphasis of key-points are mine)

    • Joe Smith

      Gee, overdo things much?

      • Woodsman001

        Why wait around for some ineducable cat-licker to spew their nonsense and lies yet again and again? Just get it over with and present all the information that will completely prove them wrong to begin with. Saving everyone tons of typing and valuable time. That’s how I got rid of every last cat on my lands too. First shoot & bury every last one of hundreds of cats, collared or not — ask criminally negligent pet-owners later if they are missing their cat. Then tell them to grab a shovel if they plan to go look for it. :-)

        In the case of cat-lickers and their cats, a good offense is REQUIRED, a defense measure is always far too late.

        I did leave off the lengthy post with proof of the 3-dozen plus deadly diseases that cats are spreading to humans and other animals. With proof of how not even washing your hands and garden vegetables in bleach or hydrochloric acid and digestive enzymes will destroy cats’ Toxoplasma gondii brain-hijacking parasites that cats crap in everyone’s lawns and gardens. Would you like that one too? Basic hygiene is not going to save your children from going blind, becoming autistic, or dying sometime during their life if they had played in a sandbox that a neighbor’s cat had shat in — contrary to cat-lickers’ oft-spewed manipulative deceptions and lies.

        Want that post too that proves all that? I’d be happy to help!

        • Joe Smith

          So yes, you overdo things

          • Alan Pugh

            Are you literally anti-intelligence?

          • Joe Smith

            What is not intelligent about saying someone who writes over and over again probably in the multiple thousands of words when he was the only one posting at the time about a subject is overdoing it? Please give me your intelligence filled answer.

          • Audrey Cunningham

            That’s what he (Woodsman) does. It’s like he has a flash drive ready to go with all this stuff already typed out, ready to copy and paste once he finds an article on feral cats. Once someone comments he’ll throw in the occasional personal insult. But for the most part, this is what he does. Ever since he found his way to my local news website I’ve went back on his Disqus account and saw how he works. He caught onto me warning others about him and has since made his Disqus account private.

          • Woodsman001

            Or maybe it’s just because a sane man doesn’t want some desperately lonely cat-c_nt-licking cat-lady sniffing up his a**? LOL

          • Audrey Cunningham

            LMAO! We’ve been over this when you visited my local news station’s website (ABC27 Harrisburg, PA) during the South Newton Township feral cat fiasco. I don’t even own a cat.

  • Woodsman001

    Anyone associated with TNR (trap, neuter, re-abandon) aren’t obeying a REQUIRED BY LAW SIX-MONTH QUARANTINE for any animal harvested from the wild and intended for any sector of the pet-trade. This is why rabid kittens are now being adopted direct from shelters. (For one example of hundreds, Google for: RABID KITTEN ADOPTED WAKE COUNTY )

    If a cat already has rabies then a vaccine later DOES NOT cure it of rabies. It’s already too late.

    Rabies’ incubation period being on average from 21 to 240 days, up to 11 months — WITHOUT SHOWING ANY SYMPTOMS. One rare case being 6 YEARS. The ONLY other way; aside of quarantining them for this mandatory, lengthy, and costly duration; to be certain an animal is not carrying rabies is to destroy it for the rabies test.

    The 10-14 day quarantine for bite and scratch cases is to see if the animal dies during that time. If the cat dies then the cat was infectious at the time of the bite or scratch and the person must get rabies shots. Rabies can only be transmitted during the last 10-14 days of its incubation period in an animal. If a cat survives after this 10-14 day quarantine they can STILL be carrying rabies until it dies from it many months later, infecting humans and other animals during the 2 weeks before it finally dies.

    Why aren’t these feral-cat-lickers paying for rabies shots, treatment costs, lost work-time, and all the suffering after THEIR feral cats bite or scratch someone? They don’t carry even ONE PENNY of liability insurance to cover their criminal negligence and stupidity. They all need to be sued so hard and deep for directly violating national and international disease-containment laws that they never recover from it for the rest of their criminally-irresponsible and criminally-negligent lives.

    Don’t believe me? For just one example of dozens of rabies outbreaks CAUSED by TNR, Google for: CARLSBAD TNR RABIES OUTBREAK

    50+ well-cared-for pets euthanized. All outdoor cats destroyed. All livestock destroyed. More than a dozen families had to pay for their own $3000 rabies shots for each family member.

    Now add on top of that that anyone who feeds these cats is training them to approach humans for food (contrary to them always claiming feral cats run from humans). What happens to the child or foolish adult that reaches down to pet or try to pick up that now seemingly friendly “cute kitty”? The wild animal lashes out and bites or scratches the hand that has no food for them.


    Don’t be surprised at the number of search-hits you get or the horrendous stories that go with them. The number of suspected rabies cases and the then required mandatory rabies shots for each individual costing them well over $3000 out of their own pockets, has been growing as exponentially fast as cats breed. Ask a cat-feeder to pay for your shots and lost work-time and suffering? Neither they, nor shelters, nor the local government who supports TNR carry ONE PENNY of liability insurance for the deadly dangers they are bringing to their communities by allowing them to feed and TNR stray cats. Two reports even document rabid cats entering a home through their pet-door and one even came through their ceiling searching for human-supplied foods — one attack so bad it required hospitalization for the family.

  • Woodsman001

    Licensing and laws do nothing to curb the problem. If cats are required to be licensed then cat-lickers just stop putting collars on their cats, as they did by me. And they won’t even bother getting them micro-chipped, especially not that They want absolutely nothing that can hold them legally accountable for the actions of their cats. We’re not talking about the topmost responsible citizens of the world, you know. They don’t want that responsibility of what their cat has done coming back on them. If they had even one iota of a sense of responsibility and respect for all other lives on this planet we wouldn’t even be having these discussions.

    However, I found something that DOES work, works well, and works fast (relative to the years it takes trying to educate deceitful and lying cat-lickers that accomplishes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING). Where I live cat-lickers have learned that _ALL_ cats, stray and feral, collared or not, ear-tipped or not (because TNR con-artists now just clip cats’ ears only, WITHOUT sterilizing or vaccinating them, to protect their hoarded cats from being trapped and euthanized), _ALL_ their cats are shot on sight and buried whenever found away from supervised confinement.

    The ONLY thing that works is destroying any of their cats found outdoors off their property. They either learn to stop getting more cats that die under the wheels of cars or from animal attacks, or they finally learn how to be a responsible pet owner, respectful neighbor, and learn to keep their invasive species animal under confined supervision, as it should be. Win win win all around.

    You can’t train a cat to stay home but I found that, in time, you CAN train a cat-owner into being a responsible pet-owner and a respectable neighbor. Most of them are so phenomenally stupid, disrespectful, and criminally irresponsible though that you have to make at least 12-15 of their cats permanently disappear before they even start to figure out what they’ve been doing wrong all during their sorry, useless, and pathetic lives. (Though the ones by me who were adopting “barn cats” from “barn-cat programs” were uniquely cretinized and lobotomized. I had to shoot and bury many hundreds of their cats before they started to learn.)

    If you live where its not legal to use firearms then check into 700-1200fps air-rifles and pointed vermin-pellets. Many of the new ones come with their own sound-suppressor designs built-in, specifically designed for shooting vermin cats in urban areas, the demand is that great. Failing that, then there’s always the SSS and TDSS Cat Management Programs that are exploding in popularity worldwide. Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-Up; or Trap, Drown, Shovel, & Shut-Up. Both methods are legal on every square foot of this earth. No local laws were violated if it never happened. (Where cats have already learned to evade all trapping methods, then inexpensive generic acetaminophen (overseas paracetamol) pain-relievers are a more species-specific vermin poison; condoned even by The Smithsonian, Audubon, and National Geographic societies today Far far safer for all other animals than the antifreeze and rat-poisons that cat-lickers have forced everyone else into using lately. But you really need to dispose of that cat safely so that wildlife won’t die from the many deadly diseases cats spread even after the cat’s death.)

    I don’t see anyone dumping cats where I live anymore. They don’t even adopt more than can be kept under lock & key 24/7. When driving through the area I don’t see even one cat on anyone’s doorsteps anymore. I always keep an eye out to see if there are more free-roaming cats that will have to be shot. And if I’ll have to leave fish-oil trails on all the roadsides again, leading right to my IR surveillance system and laser-sighted rifle. (You can read some of the most effective methods I invented to rid my lands of hundreds of these vermin in only two seasons, posted here: americanhunter D0T org SLASH blogs/arkansas-will-trap-feral-cats The eradication so complete and effective that cats are non-existent from my area for nearly 4 years now. Not seen a one.)

    Leaving ANY of their invasive species cats outside in my area means certain death for that cat, their further existence can be counted in hours. You’d think everyone else could learn from this simple lesson. The quickest way to solve an unwanted animal and irresponsible pet-owner problem is to let everyone know that you will quickly and humanely destroy every last one of their unwanted, uncared-for, or unsupervised animals for them. They either grow up fast or, far more plausible, dump their animals elsewhere to become someone else’s problem.

    You just can’t be an enabler of criminally irresponsible spineless and heartless idiots — or they remain that way. (At least where you live, anyway.)


  • Woodsman001

    Important note: One winter I tried feeding one of the shot-dead cats on my land to the last few starving opossum that I had taken under my care. (All the rest of my larger native wildlife starved to death from cats destroying all their food sources.) They were doing well, even having 3 offspring while I took care of them. The only foods they were using and had access to were the vitamin fortified foods I gave them. But when I tried to give them a much-needed protein boost with that cat-meat those opossum promptly died from some disease in the cat. Sad to say the least. And highly alarming — in that opossum, due to their cooler body temperatures, cannot contract nor transmit many common diseases, not even rabies. They are one of the most disease-free animals in N. America. Yet … something in that cat-meat was able to kill them all. Cats truly are complete and total wastes of flesh. They can’t even be used to feed wild animals safely. Leaving any of these invasive-species cats out in nature, alive OR dead, is no better than intentionally poisoning your native wildlife to death.

    When ridding your lands of cats please do so in a manner where you can safely and sanitarily retrieve that useless carcass and dispose of it so no other life comes in contact with it. Your wildlife and neighbors will thank you. If using guns, I’d even advise against using a shotgun (the tool of choice in the past), too much disease-filled splatter. Make it clean as possible, cleanly with a rifle is best. Wear gloves while disposing of the cat-carcasses and even bury or burn those gloves too when the last cat is finally gone.

    In the last 4 years I have analyzed the efficacy of over 100 of the “most successful” TNR (trap, neuter, re-abandon) programs around the globe — from TNR practitioners’ own data. From this I was able to clearly prove that NO TRAPPING PROGRAM OF ANY TYPE can catch up to cats’ breeding rates. Not even ONE of these programs was able to trap as much as 0.4% cats in any one town, city, county, or state; always allowing more than 99.6% of all stray cats to exponentially breed out of control. This is precisely why all Trap & Kill methods have also always failed. Trying to depend on slow and inefficient traps is the cause of the problem. The ONLY method that will now work is employing “Hunted to Extinction” (or extirpation of all outdoor cats in this case). It is the ONLY method that is faster than a species can out-breed and out-adapt to. Especially for a man-made species like these cats that can breed 2-4X’s faster than any naturally occurring cat species. A hard-cold FACT that you’re all going to have to wake-up to eventually. And if you don’t wake-up to it sooner rather than later, you’ll have an exponentially increasing number of cats that will have to be shot-on-sight later. THERE IS NO OTHER SOLUTION.

  • Woodsman001

    I also found a perfectly 100% natural solution for those who don’t want to take more direct, more humane, and more effective measures (firearms and air-rifles) against free-roaming invasive species cats. Anyone who has criminally irresponsible cat-lickers in their area need only plant lilies on their properties. (Must be from the Lilium species, not just with “Lily” in the common name, see notes.) Cat-lickers always want their more responsible neighbors to grow plants around the perimeter of their properties that will repel their cats for them (from the cat-owners’ own criminally negligent and criminally irresponsible behaviors and values). Well now you can brighten up your yard AND repel cats naturally! — PERMANENTLY

    (WARNING: If these plants are not native to your region don’t plant these if they cannot be contained, or risk introducing yet another potentially harmful invasive species!)

    Google for: lily toxicity cats

    It has been reported that a cat even licking a little bit of Lily pollen from their fur will be fatal in short order. A cat even drinking some of the water in which a bunch of lilies has been kept is also fatal to them.

    Everyone happy! You get to have the kinds of plants that you want, they get to have the kind of pets that they want — if they take care of it like any responsible grown-up would. Or are cat-lickers now going to demand that you can’t plant flowers on your own property? That would be their next and usual move, wouldn’t it.

    A perfectly natural solution to an invasive species animal that didn’t evolve with Lilium species around. Plus it’s a good incentive plan for cat-lickers to finally educate themselves all about ecology, native species, and evolution. :-)

    Doing a little research on ASPCA’s toxic plants lists (Family: Liliaceae).

    Lilies (Lilium species) that are deadly toxic to cats ONLY, in even small quantities (even the pollen will do):

    Common Name | Scientific Name

    Asian Lily (Asiatic Lily) | Lilium asiatica

    Easter Lily | Lilium longiflorum

    Red Lily | Lilium umbellatum

    Rubrum Lily ** | Lilium speciosum cultivar

    Stargazer Lily ** | Lilium orientalis

    Tiger Lily ** | Lilium tigrinum

    Wood Lily | Lilium umbellatum

    (not of the Lilium species)

    Orange Day Lily | Hemerocallis graminea

    (** see notes below)

    Lilies (Lilium species) that may be toxic to dogs if the dog ingests enough:


    (Stray cats have been listed as “vermin” in the USA since the early 1900′s, so even the use of poisons on them is legal.)

    Be sure they are from the Liliacea Family, has “Lilium” on the plant label or are common N. American Day Lilies. Some plants with the word “Lily” in the common name are not true Lilium species and may be toxic to other species of animals, always double-check. On further investigation I found out that all plant-parts, the blossoms and pollen being the most toxic, if harvested and dried (for year-round use) are just as deadly toxic to cats (if not more-so because of the unknown toxin being concentrated), and the drying makes them even more palatable to cats. What a great mulch for gardens! (Or a ground-up additive for a special outdoor can of tuna.)

    ** There have been some anecdotal reports of some free-roaming cats that have spent many years around some of these particular species of plants and still survived. So it is best to harvest, dry, and grind-up the plants and mix them into any appropriate bait-foods to be most effective.

  • Woodsman001

    Here’s how these delusional, self-serving, and uneducated TNR-advocates are destroying all life on the planet.


    FACT: Trap & Kill failed because cats cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control.

    FACT: Trap, Neuter, & Re-Abandon (TNR) is an even bigger abject failure because these man-made ecological disasters cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control, and they also continue to cruelly annihilate all native wildlife (from the smallest of prey up to the top predators that are starved to death), and the cats continue to spread many deadly diseases that they carry today — FOR WHICH THERE ARE NO VACCINES AGAINST THEM. Many of which are even listed as bioterrorism agents. (Such as Tularemia and The Plague — Yes, people have already died from cat-transmitted plague in the USA. No fleas nor rats even required. The cats themselves carry and transmit the plague all on their own.)

    FACT: THERE IS ABSOLUTELY _NOTHING_ HUMANE ABOUT TNR. Nearly every last TNR’ed cat dies an inhumane death by road-kill, from cat and animal attacks, environmental poisons, starvation, dehydration, freezing to death, infections, parasites, etc. And if very very lucky humanely shot to death or re-trapped and drowned (the two most common methods employed on all farms and ranches to protect their gestating livestock’s offspring and valuable native wildlife dying from cats’ Toxoplasmosis parasites). This doesn’t begin to count the thousands of defenseless native animals that cats skin alive and disembowel alive for their daily and hourly play-toys. The only difference in destroying cats immediately and humanely instead of trapping, sterilizing, then releasing them to an inhumane death; is that money isn’t going into an HSUS or SPCA board-member’s pocket, veterinarian’s pocket, cat-food company CEO’s pocket, or a drug-company CEO’s pocket. And that’s the ONLY difference!

    FACT: These manipulative, deceptive, and deceitful TNR proponents are now clipping cats ears ONLY. WITHOUT vaccinations nor sterilizing them. They do this to save money and protect their outdoor hoarded cat colonies from being trapped and euthanized by the state because the clipped-ear shows officials that they have been sterilized and vaccinated. Why pay $140 for each cat and all that time when just a trap and a simple snip of scissors on each one can also protect their hoarded cats from being destroyed? (I have absolute proof of this.)

    FACT: Cats are a man-made (through selective breeding) invasive species. And as such, are no less of a man-made environmental disaster than any other caused by man. Cats are even worse than an oil-spill of continent-sized proportions. They not only kill off rare and endangered marine-mammals along all coastlines from run-off carrying cats’ Toxoplasma gondii parasites, they destroy the complete food-chain in every ecosystem where cats are found. From smallest of prey gutted and skinned alive for cats’ tortured play-toys, up to the top predators that are starved to death from cats destroying their ONLY food sources. (Precisely what cats caused on my own lands not long ago.)

    FACT: Hunted To Extinction (or in this case, extirpation of all outdoor cats) is the ONLY method that is faster than a species like cats can exponentially out-breed and out-adapt to. Especially a man-made invasive species like these cats that can breed 2X-4X’s faster than any naturally occurring cat-species.

    FACT: In _FOURTEEN_YEARS_ Alley Cat ALL-LIES branch of NYC have only reduced feral cats in their own city by 0.08% to 0.024% (as the months go on that percentage becomes more insignificant), allowing more than 99.92% to 99.976% to exponentially breed out of control. Here’s how Alley-Cat-ALL-LIES’ deceptive math works: If you TNR 4 cats and 3 get flattened by cars this translates to 75% fewer feral-cats everywhere. Alley Cat ALL-LIES can’t even reduce cats in their own city, yet they promote it as a worldwide solution. Then even bigger fools fall for it and promote it.

    FACT: When researching over 100 of the most “successful” TNR programs worldwide, JUST ONE trapped more than 0.4%. Oregon’s 50,000 TNR’ed cats (the highest rate I found) is 4.9% of all ferals in their state. Yet, by applying population growth calculus on the unsterilized 95.1% they will have trapped only 0.35% of all cats in their state sometime this year. Less than 0.4% is a far cry from the required 75%-85% to be the least bit effective.

    FACT: Their mythical “vacuum effect” is a 100% LIE. A study done by the Texas A&M University proved that any perceived “vacuum” is just the simple case that CATS ATTRACT CATS. Get rid of them all and there’s no cats there to attract more. I proved this myself by shooting and burying hundreds of them on my own lands. ZERO cats replaced them FOR NEARLY FOUR YEARS NOW. If you want more cats, keep even one of them around, more will find you. That university study also found that sterilized cats very poorly defend any territory. Non-sterilized cats, being more aggressive, take over the sterilized cats’ resources (shelter & food if any). If there is any kind of “vacuum effect” at all, it is that sterilizing cats cause non-sterilized cats to restore the reproductive void.

    FACT: During all this investigation I have discovered something that is unfaltering without fail. Something that you can bet your very life on and win every last time. That being — IF A TNR CAT-HOARDER IS TALKING THEN THEY ARE LYING. 100% guaranteed!

  • Woodsman001

    By the way, how many people on your “citizen’s advisory committee” are representing those people who have had deadly-disease carrying, invasive species, pestilent vermin cats destroy their property and lives and don’t want any deadly-disease carrying, invasive species, pestilent vermin cats on their property or in their lives? Or is your “citizen’s advisory committee” only comprised of misinformed, less than high-school-educated, sociopathic cat-lickers that are willing to sacrifice the lives of humans to all the deadly disease that their cats carry and transmit to all other animals, cats, and humans?

    Aside: In case you are curious — the term that I use of “cat licker” is justifiably and accurately gleaned from the growing fad of people who are obsessed with cats and want to do everything possible to make their cats feel good, as naturally as possible, at the expense of all that is reasonable and sane.

    They are now licking their cats clean.

    It’s just another one of the many aberrant and mentally-ill behaviors of “cat lickers”.

    I cannot, in all good conscience and honesty, EVER use the term “cat lover” again to describe these heartless and spineless cretins. People who love cats do not throw them under the wheels of moving cars, let them lap-up antifreeze in a gutter, force them to attack one another to fight for territory (no different than people who run dog-fight rings and are just as criminal of animal abuse), or let them be attacked by other animals by letting them roam free. “Cat Lover” is an extremely oxymoronic label. “Cat Licker” is the only one that accurately works today.

  • SweetScarlet

    Here we go again. Can we just move forward already with this? The answer is not to kill every animal that breathes. REGARDLESS. Changes are being put in place to deal with this issue. If people are concerned over the methods to be used, they should join this advisory board. Woodsman001, I would highly encourage you to do so.

    • Woodsman001

      We move forward right after every last one of your invasive species vermin are either under safe and supervised confinement or dead and safely buried away from all other life on earth to protect that life from all the diseases your cats are spreading.

      That’s your call, and the call of how good of a shot all your neighbors are.

      • SweetScarlet

        “…your invasive species vermin”? How am I personified by feral cats? Did you read what I wrote? I encouraged you to apply for this board so that your concerns could be be attended too. Personal attacks aren’t needed. A little respect from both sides is appreciated.

        • Woodsman001

          Here’s a clue for you, THERE IS NOTHING TO DISCUSS.

          Where do cat-lickers get off even beginning to think that they have the right to force others to have dangerous invasive vermin on their properties and in their lives? Where is even one iota of respect from morons and cretins like that? They deserve ZERO respect in return because they have ZERO respect for anyone else and anything else on the planet!

          By their reasoning I could raise pet Black-Mamba vipers for pets and then FORCE THEM to let them slither in their backyards and around their children and other pets and animals. Then strip them of every legal right to do something about it. JUST because I formed a “citizen’s advisory committee” and cyber-bullied all lawmakers into submission. Is this the method that passes for lawmaking today?

          Do you see just how ludicrous and absurd this “citizen’s advisory committee” is? THERE IS NO REASON FOR THEM TO EVEN EXIST IN THE VERY FIRST PLACE.


          End of discussion.

          • SweetScarlet

            Here’s a clue for YOU: WHERE IS YOUR RESPECT AND DIGNITY? I refuse to get into this with you, I don’t even know you. But if you’re not respectful enough to try to reach an agreement, then you’re right, you have absolutely no right to join this board. You want to run your own vigilante justice–and it will catch up with you. And “cyber bully”? Really? Pathetic.

      • Joe Smith

        People are the ones who are invasive in the animals territory for the most part, why don’t you start my eliminating yourself as a show of good faith?

        • Woodsman001

          While it is true that overpopulation of humans is the #1 problem that we and all other species face today (humans are a “weedy” species, but they ARE NOT an “invasive species”, please educate your sorry-a**ed bible-home-schooled selves); this still doesn’t excuse all the responsible, wise, and intelligent people from stopping all the ecological disasters caused by those phenomenally stupid and criminally negligent people who should have never been born in the very first place. (You know, wastes of flesh, JUST LIKE YOU.)

          Cats are a man-made (through selective breeding) invasive species. And as such, cats being a product of man’s intervention, are no less of a man-made environmental disaster than any oil-spill, radiation-fallout, chemical-spill, or other environmental disaster _caused_by_man_. Cats are _not_exempt_ from having to be removed from every natural environment, wherever and whenever they are found away from supervised confinement. Just as you would do all you can to remove Zebra Mussels from any waterway where they don’t belong. Or Burmese Pythons and African Cichlids from every habitat where they exist in N. America today. Burmese Pythons and African Cichlids started out as pets too. Many of our destructive invasive species pests started out as PETS discarded by criminally-irresponsible humans. (Or from pets’ habitats, e.g. Eurasian Watermilfoil that is annihilating native aquatic life in many regions of the USA came from people irresponsibly dumping their pet-fish aquarium water into lakes and streams.) And guess what happens to all those other non-native pets that became destructive invasive species? They are destroyed on-site by any means possible — no questions asked — none required.

          Cats are even worse than an oil-spill of multi-continent-sized proportions. They not only kill off rare and endangered marine-mammals along all coastlines (just as all oil-spills do) from run-off from the land carrying cats’ Toxoplasma gondii parasites, they also destroy the complete food-chain in every ecosystem where cats are found today. From smallest of prey that is gutted and skinned alive for cats’ tortured play-toys (not even used for food, wasted just for senseless play), up to the top predators that are starved to death from cats destroying their ONLY food sources. (Precisely what cats caused on my own land not long ago.) They don’t destroy just birds. They destroy everything that moves — directly or indirectly. They will even destroy valuable native vegetation by destroying those animals that are required pollinators for those plants or those that act as seed dispersers for those plants (as many smaller rodent and bird species do) or those that act as pest-control for those plants. Cats can and will wipe out whole ecosystems eventually — animal and plant.

          Cats need to disappear from all natural habitats PERMANENTLY, eventually, somehow. And the sooner the better. They are breeding out of control at an exponential rate. The reason for “sooner the better” is that you can only hope you can halt the problem before it is beyond the reach of any method you eventually choose. Luckily, I caught the problem in time where I live (by humanely shooting and burying every last cat I saw, hundreds, collared or not, totally LEGAL). Though I had plenty of native predators (owls, fox, hawks, etc.) available that eventually repopulated my lands so as to not cause any explosions of unwanted species and further imbalance. It seems nobody else is faring as well. Their time is being wasted by cat-lickers stopping them from doing the right thing. Asking or listening to any deranged invasive-species advocate for advice on how to clean up the ecological disaster that they created and perpetuate is about as useful as asking your local career thieves for advice and help to hide your valuables from their daily motives and activities. Ignore anything they might say and you too will solve the problem where you live.

          It worked 100% where I live. I’ve not seen even ONE of their pestilent invasive-species vermin in nearly FOUR YEARS now. Totally disproving one of their many many oft-spewed cat-lickers’ lies and deceptions that they use to manipulate all of you. Their “vacuum effect” is a 100% LIE.

          • Joe Smith

            Hee hee, made you type a bunch and waste your time

          • Woodsman001

            I don’t think you quite understand (ANYTHING). After 15 years of trying to reason with criminally negligent cat-lickers JUST LIKE YOU, I learned my lesson (at the loss of nearly all the native wildlife on my lands that were tortured to death or starved to death by their invasive species vermin pestilent cats). You can’t train a cat to stay home; but I found that, in time; you CAN train a disrespectful, inconsiderate, and criminally irresponsible neighbor into being a responsible, considerate, and respectable adult. One who finally takes care of their animals like any responsible grown-up would.

            I only use cat-lickers like you now as my online show-’n-tell puppets. To prove to everyone in the world, beyond any doubt left in the universe; that no matter how much you try to educate cat-lickers like you, reason with you, beg with you, plead with you, argue with you; that it will solve NOTHING for the problem that YOU created for every other living thing on earth and are hellbent on perpetuating.

            The ONLY thing that works is ignoring every last thing that morons like you might spew to the world — giving back the EXACT SAME amount of respect and consideration to you as you’ve shown to all other lives on the planet — and then just destroy every last one of your unsupervised cats. Then and only then will the problem that YOU created be solved. There is NO OTHER SOLUTION. And it’s YOUR FAULT.

            Everyone MUST ignore every last thing you deranged invasive species cat-lickers are spewing to the world. That’s the most important part. Asking you for advice and help to solve the problem that you created and are perpetuating is just as foolish as asking your local career thieves for their advice and help to hide your valuables from their daily motives, goals, and activities.

            It worked 100% where I live! May others learn to ignore you as much as I had, then the cat problem solves itself! 100% guaranteed!

            p.s. I have lots of prepared 1-click texts for waste-of-flesh cat-lickers. They’re not worth more energy nor attention than that. :-)

            (Just like this whole post is a 1-click too. I love nothing better than making cat-lickers waste their time while everyone else is busy shooting every last one of their cats. LOL)

          • Audrey Cunningham

            blah blah blah *yawn*

          • Audrey Cunningham

            From 2012

            From 2 months ago

            One can find Woodsman001′s cat hating posts going as further back than 2012. I’m telling you this is what he does with his life.

          • Woodsman001

            You can look at it this way …. it took me 15+ years of dealing with cat-lickers just like you who did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop their INVASIVE SPECIES cats from annihilating all the NATIVE wildlife on my lands and spreading their deadly diseases everywhere, and 2 more seasons of shooting HUNDREDS cats to finally get rid of every last stray cat on my lands; feral, pet, it mattered not. The final and ONLY solution that worked was accomplished through relentless vigilance and accuracy. I realized afterward that the ONLY way to prevent this from ever happening again was to apply the very same techniques now to those that had caused this local ecological disaster in the first place (later I found out they are causing this ecological disaster worldwide and they just don’t care at all). To stop them, for all native wildlife around the globe, for myself, and everyone else that has been tormented in life and had their lives destroyed by people just as much of a mindless and useless waste-of-flesh moron as you.

            I’m not going away until every last idiot that advocates the release of invasive-species cats has been stopped from practicing their criminally-irresponsible behavior. You can count on that.

            Payback’s a b!+¢h, you pathetically useless and unwanted B!+¢H! :-)

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            So what you’re saying is that a teeny tiny little four legged creature scared you and you messed in your pants? Ha Ha Ha, Ha Ha, Ha Ha.

  • Audrey Cunningham

    Looks like Woodsman001 is at it again. I came across Woodsman001 not too long ago when he appeared on my local ABC27′s website, out of Pennsylvania) spewing his hatred for any and all cats and cat lovers (who he calls cat lickers). If you look at his Disqus account all of his comments are about his hatred for cats, whether they are feral, strays, or pets. He sits at home and he searches the internet specifically for news sites that have articles about feral cats. His real name is James “Jim” Stevenson of Texas. He’s an obessed bird watcher and hates all cats because he believes they are a threat to his beloved wild birds. He was prosecuted in 2006 for killing a man’s pet cat. However, in 2007 the jury was hung on the case. So, since then this elderly man has been cruising the internet trolling. He is truly off balance. I think he truly believes in this youtube video he keeps posting… the one which is a clip from the show on TLC’s”My Strange Addiction… where a woman licks her cat and eats her cat’s hair… he truly believes all cat owners do this. He refuses to believe that, that one woman in that clip has a problem and that not all cat owners do this. His, obsessive hatred for cats, his obsessive love for birds has warped his mind. No matter what you say to him, he will not listen to you… he has no ability for reason. Good luck to anyone to attempts to converse with such a person.

    • Alan Pugh

      There is no reason to have a conversation with anyone who supports handling the feral cat problem any way other than absolute (humane) euthanasia. His attitude toward the feral cat defenders is callous, but his science is correct. The feral cat population needs to be completely eradicated, not “mitigated” through half-measures and sunshine and rainbows.

      EDIT: His science toward *FERAL* cats, I mean. Not all cats. I’m a cat owner myself (and my cat is fixed, has all her shots, and is not declawed).

    • Woodsman001

      Destroying cats is neither hating cats nor a fear of cats.

      Why do mentally-unbalanced and psychotic cat-advocates always presume that if someone is removing a highly destructive, deadly disease spreading, human-engineered invasive-species from the native habitat to restore it back into natural balance that they must hate that organism? Does someone who destroys Zebra Mussels, Kudzu, African Cichlids, Burmese Pythons, Brown Tree Snakes, or any of the other myriad destructive invasive-species have some personal problem with that species? (Many of which are escaped PETS that don’t even spread any harmful diseases, unlike cats.) Your ignorance and blatant biases are revealed in your declaring that people who destroy cats must somehow hate or fear cats. Nothing could be further from the truth.

      It is people who let a destructive invasive-species roam free that tortures-to-death all other wildlife, wasted for their cats’ play-toys, that have zero respect for ALL life. They don’t even care about their cats dying a slow torturous death from exposure, animal attacks, diseases, starvation, dehydration, becoming road-kill, environmental poisons, etc., the way that ALL stray cats suffer to death. They don’t even respect their fellow human being. This speaks more than volumes about your disgusting character. People like you should be locked up in prison for life for your cruelty to all animals, cruelty to your own cats as well as all the native wildlife that you let your cats skin alive or disembowel alive for their and your entertainment. If you let cats roam free you are violating every animal-abandonment, animal-neglect, animal-endangerment, and invasive-species law in existence.

      If people do hate cats today, have LEARNED to hate cats today, you have nobody but yourself and everyone just like you to blame. YOU are the reason people are now realizing that all excess cats must be destroyed on-site and on-sight. You’ve done so much to make people care about cats, haven’t you. If you want to do something about it, direct your sadly and sorely misplaced energies at those that are causing the problem, not at those who are actually solving it AND HAVE SOLVED IT 100%.

      THIS IS YOUR FAULT and THE FAULT OF EVERYONE JUST LIKE YOU. You have NOBODY but yourselves to blame.

      You can take that all the way to the very last shot-dead cat’s grave.

      • Audrey Cunningham


  • Larry Crnobrnja

    Woodsman001 aka Jim Stevenson; looks like he’s been feeding on pigeon droppings a bit too long.

    • Joe Smith
    • Joe Smith

      Jim Stevenson says someone tried to blow his head off late last month. Maybe that was to be expected.

      “A walking abortion clinic,” the Galveston bird lover calls himself. A big, dramatic man, Stevenson has a talent for sound bites, and that one nicely captures the white-hot anger he inspires.

      Not long before the incident, in a trial that drew international attention, the unrepentant Stevenson faced up to two years in prison for shooting a feral cat that he’d seen stalking a piping plover. The shorebird is an endangered species, badly adapted to defending itself against cats, and environmentalists argued that Stevenson was essentially right to protect it from the non-native predator. Cat lovers responded that there’s something deeply wrong with anybody who’d shoot a cat. Ever.

      The jury pronounced itself hung, but the story refused to die. Cat lovers were infuriated that Stevenson got off scot-free, and two death threats propelled him back into the national news.

      Unwavering in defense of his cause, he seemed to enjoy his enemies’ fury. Even Stevenson’s fans admit he can be prickly — an unfortunate trait for a tour guide and B&B proprietor. But mainly, he’s an ornithologist, and members of his birding flock say that he more than makes up for that orneriness with avian knowledge and passion. He’s especially riveting, they say, when he describes how different species fit into their ecological niches.

      You wonder: What is Jim Stevenson’s own niche? Is he a hero or a villain? Is he a predator? or is he prey?

      Shot in the dark

      On Nov. 28, Stevenson says, someone did more than threaten him.

      This is how he tells the story: He was spending a quiet Wednesday evening at home alone. Sometime after dark, he remembered that he’d left an expensive telescope in his car, and went to retrieve it. As he prepared to exit his sun porch, a gunshot shattered its glass door — the spot where his head would have been if he hadn’t paused a split second. He scrambled inside for safety, turned off the lights and dialed 911.

      Then he called his lawyer, who told him to report the incident to the FBI instead of the Galveston police. But Stevenson had already dialed 911.

      Stevenson says that the Galveston Police Department’s officers dislike him, and maybe that’s true; lots of people dislike him. And besides, in the courtroom, Stevenson’s lawyer had attacked an officer’s credibility.

      At Stevenson’s house, the responding officers were skeptical of his story. They looked for flecks of shattered glass on his clothes, says Rick McCullor, the detective in charge of the case. The tiny, highly reflective shards tend to stick to people, but the cops saw nothing sparkling on Stevenson. They asked him to take a gunpowder-residue test that would show whether he’d recently shot a firearm. He declined.

      Stevenson says that, fearing for his life, he spent the night at a hotel, then hustled out of town the next morning. When police Detective McCullor called his cell number, asking that he come in for questioning, Stevenson was driving east on Interstate 10, halfway to Louisiana. He offered to answer questions then and there, on the phone, but McCullor declined. The detective says it’s crucial to do such interviews in person, where body language and facial expressions can reveal whether someone is telling the truth.

      Who shot at Jim Stevenson’s house that night? The Galveston Police Department has dropped its investigation. But their leading suspect appeared to be Stevenson himself.

      Time to fly?

      Why would someone stage his own attempted murder? According to Stevenson, the cops who responded to his call argued that he might have shot out his own door as a publicity stunt to drum up business. Stevenson pooh-poohs the notion. News of his attempted murder, he said, is the worst thing in the world for his business: Even the most fervent birder wouldn’t want to risk his life by staying at a B&B stalked by a murderous shooter. And who’d hire a tour guide who himself attracts predators?

      Still, not all of Stevenson’s business is in Galveston. He often leads guided tours to birding hot spots such as Costa Rica — places where a gun-toting stalker would be unlikely to follow. It’s possible that Stevenson’s expanding notoriety could make him an international draw: a near-martyr for biodiversity.

      Lying low for now, Stevenson asked that I not reveal his whereabouts lest the shooter try his luck again. He’s not sure what he’ll do next, he said. He’s looking into several bird-related opportunities. Maybe he’ll leave Galveston, or maybe not. Everything is in upheaval.

      Under the circumstances, he sounded upbeat, confident that he’d find a new niche somewhere. He is, after all, no piping plover. He can fend for himself. He’ll adapt.

    • Larry Crnobrnja
    • Woodsman001

      So far you net-stalking cat-licking psychotics have tried to convince everyone that I am any of 5 to 8 different people that you’ve always hated. You’ve been wrong on all counts, and are still wrong on all counts. You don’t even know what hemisphere of the globe I reside in let alone anything else about me. (Ah, the joys of knowing proxy-trains.) I keep telling you my name is Rumpelstiltskin but you won’t believe that either. LOL

      It’s been fun. You always reveal yourselves to be the cyber-bullying/net-stalking psychotics that you truly are. I don’t even have to tell anyone that, you are more than happy to prove it to the world all by yourselves! (Cat-lickers are never too bright. That’s why even their cat can outsmart them to escape from safe confinement. Dumber than their cats.)

      Here’s the funny part … every time you threaten to do something about me, or try to use your typical cyber-bullying tactics and death-threats or other means, I wonder why you are wasting so many empty threats and wasted energy on someone you can’t even find and don’t even know who I am. (I guess it’s safe, then you can keep using the pitiful excuse that you can’t find me.) When today, this very hour, you can go after an even more famous cat-killer and find out right where he lives, this very moment, to stop him, his family, and all his friends from shooting thousands of more cats than I’ve ever shot and buried. Let’s see you put some action behind those empty words of yours.

      washingtontimes D0T com/news/2010/dec/3/the-time-for-kitty-killing-has-come/

      Cat-lickers’ threats are as empty and meaningless as their lives and minds. It’s fun to call them out on it. LOL

      • Larry Crnobrnja

        LMAO at the internet tough guy. LOL

    • Woodsman001

      Hey Larry! I forgot to ask!

      The last time you showed your hypocritical spewage on the net someone was asking for all cat-lickers just like you to help out some 60+ cats they had saved but now needed homes or they were going to be destroyed. Then you just disappeared from the net for awhile because we kept asking you to post photos of all the cats you adopted so they wouldn’t have to be destroyed.

      How many did you adopt? Where’s the photos?

      All talk and no action, eh?

      You pathetically useless f***in’ hypocrite!!


      • Larry Crnobrnja

        You probably missed it cause you’re too into yourself. Go dig it up if you’re interested.

        • Woodsman001


          Larry didn’t adopt any unwanted cats and they were all eventually destroyed anyway, and you can waste your time trying to find evidence of his helping even one cat, evidence that never existed in the first place because Larry truly is a pathetically useless cat-licking hypocrite, just as claimed.


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