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UPDATED: Police identify victim of fatal shooting

Antonio Spraggins

Antonio Spraggins

ELYRIA — Fatal shooting victim Antonio Spraggins was mourned by relatives Sunday as police searched for his killer.

Spraggins, 22, of Elyria, was found in a silver Chevy Equinox stuck in a snowdrift near the intersection of Foster and Lake avenues about 2:15 a.m. Sunday, police spokesman Capt. Chris Costantino said. The Equinox was running, with the tires spinning in the snow. There were bullet holes in the driver’s-side door, and the driver’s-side window was shattered.

Spraggins was killed near the T&A Bar, 801 Foster Ave. Bar owner Angela Carter said Spraggins had been a regular patron.

“He was very respectful and he never caused problems,” Carter said.

Carter said she last saw Spraggins at the bar playing pool about 11 p.m. Saturday. She said she did not notice when Spraggins left the bar.

Carter said there were no arguments or fights at the bar before the shooting. Carter said neither she nor any customers heard the shots that triggered a call to police that night. She found out about the fatal shooting when police asked her to close early.

Spraggins was pronounced dead at the scene, according to Lorain County Coroner Stephen Evans. An autopsy is scheduled for today. Costantino said the motive for the shooting is under investigation.

Relatives of Spraggins gathered at his home in the 600 block of Wood Street on Sunday evening.

Spraggins had a record that included a 2012 conviction for drug trafficking, possession of cocaine and possession of drug paraphernalia, but Yvette Spraggins said her nephew should be remembered for the positive aspects of his life.

Spraggins, who went by the first name Tony, was the father of a 5-year-old daughter and a 3-year old son. Yvette Spraggins said her nephew grew up in Elyria and was funny, kindhearted and helpful.

“He always had you laughing,” she said.

She last saw her nephew Wednesday and said he was in good spirits. She said she knew of no reason why anyone would want to hurt him.

Anyone with information on the shooting is asked to call police at (440) 323-3302.

Contact Evan Goodenow at 329-7129 or egoodenow@chroniclet.com.

  • concerned citizen

    first and foremost it was not at tna bar and grill…. it was in the vincity also it was in the vincintiy of the garage and the corvette shop and settleinn… get the facts straigtht… period.. it was on the street not in tna .. tna is a great place to hang out and with all the small business closing down give it a break dont profile because it is a african american bar stop alreadey people are just trying to keep afloat with there businesses especially in elyria… stop it already its not about the bar its about our community period.dont hate small businesses cuz they cater to african american wrong wrong wrong… hate the epd for not doing there job as law enforncement they know who the drug dealers are but are too scared to do anyting… stop picking on people who try to make a honest living like the owners we are all; just trying to give our children a colllege educatation a better life so stop please….it could of happened next door to your house.

    • WTFnext

      Please learn to spell.
      Vincity should be vicinity. Then you spelled it vincintiy..
      Straigtht should be straight.
      Business should be pluralized to businesses. Did it right the second time.
      Alreadey should be already.
      There should be their.
      Educatation should be education.

      • Kelvin Gray

        What does the spelling having to do with the point being made? Apparently you understood. FOCUS AND STAY POINT FOR ONE READERS.

    • Mike

      You are clearly an idiot….my favorite is “colllege educatation”!

      • WTFnext

        Hehehe mine too. A “college educatation” they surely do not have.

    • hottamomma

      U made a valid point. The people who have a problem with it grammar don’t have a heart. U could be normal and just click the wrong keys like everyone has done( but it’s funny they able to understand it so it must not be that bad) or u could have mental or physical problem and they teasing a person with special problems. Either way they stood it point! Have a blessed day

      • huh???

        You*
        problem with the improper grammar*
        You*
        (that they are able)*
        You*
        could have a*
        they are teasing*
        understood the*

        You also have a blessed day

        • hottamomma

          It doesn’t matter how u spell. Humans made spelling not God. But even though it wasn’t up to it par. U understood it, so spelling doesn’t matter as long as the person u r speaking understands it. Hey it’s 2000`s get wit the program. These short words r the future. Get wit the future or stay In the past.

          • rlm_Lorain

            “short words are the future” and “get wit the program”? Are you serious? Try using them on a high school or college paper and see how far that gets you. In my opinion, it’s just lazy. I am also aware that some people are challenged by correct spelling, but they should at least make an effort. I personally put very little credence in any written opinion that is filled with misspelled words; regardless of the writer’s intelligence, misspelled words (especially common words) makes the writer APPEAR ignorant. Talk about the “dumbing down of America”……..

          • willlam

            Why don’t you give us an example of ebonics,the language,you hood rats use?

          • Abbie

            “Get wit [sic] the future or stay In [sic] the past.” The future is much brighter with a grasp on even just elementary-level grammar and spelling. One needs to take themselves seriously to be taken seriously by others.

          • hottamomma

            Again this is a blog not a job application. It’s not that serious. Stop worrying about spelling and worry about kids going hungry and being abused. Worry about the economy. Worry about global warming. Worry about abortion. Please stop worrying about spelling on a blog. gosh u must have nothing better to do but be the spelling police on a blog. Give me my ticket already

          • Robin Hood

            “…worry about abortion…” Why ? Just stop defending yourself. You are only making it worse. Let someone else defend you. You are in over your head here.

          • hottamomma

            Worrying about abortion is a lot better than worrying about how someone spells. (Well maybe not to u). I’m not in over my head because I worry about things that really mean something in life, unlike worrying about how other people spell words on a blog. Rest in peace Tony!

          • Carol Perkins

            I agree people who worry about grammar, they have nothing better to do with their time. They may have been bullies in school; or maybe it is because they can hide behind a computer screen and attack someones character. My daughter has a disability and can only read and write at a third grade level. However, if you listen to her you would never know she had this problem because her verbal intelligence is at college level. So think about the other persons feelings, you do not know if there is a true disability behind that computer screen.

          • Joe Smith

            Rather be in the past, using it for texting is one thing as you are limited on how many letters you can use but to do it in a post is just lazy. Do the same on a resume and see what kind of a job you can get.

          • hottamomma

            That’s exactly what I’m saying this is a blog not a job app. We don’t need Annie being the spelling police. Shortening words on a blog don’t mean anything.

          • Vision

            Technically, this is a thread not a blog. An next time before you post read what you’ve written out loud, so you can see how ridiculous and elementary you sound. Better yet, have someone read to you what you’ve written.

          • hottamomma

            It doesn’t matter how anyone sound, we r all our own individuals and thats what makes us unique. As long as u understood it. Hey that make u just as dumb. Ha ha ha!

    • Abbie

      What? “hate the epd for not doing there job as law enforncement they know who the drug dealers are but are too scared to do anyting…” Seriously – You are blaming the Elyria Police Department here? And say that they deserve to be hated?? Are they not “people who try to make a honest living”?? And all the while, you are appealing to others to “stop picking on people”???

      • tomfeher

        If you don’t like cops, next time call a crackhead!

    • jz

      Cops too scared to do anything? What a dumb thing to say. You have no knowledge of how the laws work, the constitution, which, requires certain things before cops can arrest someone. And a host of knowledge it takes before you say such a ridiculous statement.

    • Vision

      Stop the insanity. R.I.P. Antonio

    • willlam

      What are you trying too say? Please expand your expanation of Blacks,Negro and African Americans. NO bars for Blacks in Lorain County?

      • Vision

        Go back and sound out the words and read it slowly. R.I.P. Antonio

    • therest_ofthestory

      How many people that live in the neighborhoods know who the drug dealers are but will not assist the police by giving information or answering questions. You hate the police when they do their job and one someone you care about is killed, injured or violated in any way then you cry foul and say the po po aren’t doing their job. Which way is it? Make up your mind! And what makes you think that Mr. Spraggins wasn’t there for drugs? He does have a drug conviction for trafficking in crack…..that’s public record……looks like the EPD were doing their job then!

    • Zen Grouch

      You’re talking jail bars… right?

      • Vision

        I was wondering when you were going to start adding your 2 cents worth. About time. R.I.P. Antonio

        • Zen Grouch

          After seeing that you threw down something like 4 bucks and some change, I figured “Why not?”

      • Joe Smith

        LOL!

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  • huh???

    I am sorry, did I misread the article? I am not sure I see ‘african american’ or ‘afro american’ written anywhere in it. An article with no hints of anything regarding race, and you idiots make it out to be. Not only does one of you make it about race, but you do it with multiple spelling errors, quite a few punctuation errors, as well as grammar errors. So, if you are going to come out spewing word vomit insinuating racial profiling; PLEASE have a dictionary and your 5th grade English lesson handy. Thank you.

    • WTFnext

      No you did not misread the article. You simply did not look at the picture that was posted with the article. He is CLEARLY African American. DUHHHH

      • huh???

        There was no photo included in the original article. Since they updated the article, clearly visible in the title, they have now included a photo. While the deceased is now identified as an African American, I could care less the color of his skin. It’s a shame in the matter in which he died. Thank you for making your reply easier to read by spelling everything correctly and using correct punctuation. Good day.

        • Robin Hood

          When is the last time you heard a reporter call an American an “Afro- American” ? Even the intelligent posts are filled with racial slurs. Afro-American insinuates they are not fully American. i.e. Less than you or I. I don’t see caucasians referring to themselves as “Irish American”, “English American”, French American” and so on, except on St. Patrick’s day, then alot of people turn into Irish American, regardless of race. R.I.P. Antonio

        • WTFnext

          Oh please, they did not change the title and add a picture. There is more than one article. Comment on the current one you are reading and not the others. Go to them and comment. That’s just an excuse for saying something stupid.

          • NotFromElyria

            This whole crowd responding to the thread is a great example of why I
            left Elyria long ago. Elyria, in general, is a town full of haters and
            horrible attitudes. It must be the horrendous economy and lack of
            opportunity that has created the cloud of disdain. The black man that
            was killed is just another example of the hate and disregard for others
            that courses through the entire community. Move out of Elyria while you
            still can. There is a better life elsewhere, I can attest to that. Once I
            left Elyria, I never looked back, for the better. I keep up on the news
            and occasionally visit my mother, and when I do, I am never surprised
            about how run down Elyria has become. Sorrowful City, Elyria, Ohio.

        • WTFnext

          You’re welcome. Why don’t you follow the example?

      • Robin Hood

        He is a black man and he is an American.

        • WTFnext

          WAS. Past tense. He is no longer anything except deceased

  • Kelvin Gray

    You may be joking but…..

    • hottamomma

      Lol lol

  • SweetScarlet

    My condolences to the family, especially the children of this deceased man. Regardless of the circumstances, another life is lost and I’m sure his family wishes things were different. I also feel for EPD and all the officers who are already stretched so very thin. It never seems to stop.

    • Robin Hood

      And it’s only going to get worse. Welcome to the new age.

  • Bob Sweatt

    You can put a man on trial, but you can’t make the guilty pay
    And you can cage an animal, but you can’t take away the rage

    • read the whole story

      Wow your an a** Mark B.

    • White Man

      Mark b is a ciber warrior (coward)

      • Bob Sweatt

        Did you mean CYBER??

        • White Man

          White crooked cops put drugs on the streets of the US and then claim there is some war on drugs White folks started this mess and now a life is lost blame it on drugs No blame it on you white devils and btw F the rite grammar

    • ken

      very true Mark B

    • willlam

      What does your post mean? What does the killing of a Black man,have too do with a monkey and the jungle? You are confused,Mr.Mark B.Racist. ALL PEOPLE ARE DECENDENTS of Adam and Eve!

      • Vision

        • Bob Sweatt

          Don’t waste your time on him. He is under the belief that the world is only a few thousand years old. Instead of believing the evidence that the world has been around for millions of years.

          • willlam

            Yes,and created by God Almighty,years ago! How would know my beliefs? There you go again,putting words in my mouth! You need to go seek professional help! PS. How do you think Apes and EVERYTHING LIVING and GROWING came to be??

          • Bob Sweatt

            You are saying I need help. That’s rich. You believe in a fictitious character from a story book created everything.

            You want me to believe in your nonsense. Then by all means show me someone walking on water, making the blind to see or turning water into wine, all with out anything to aid them. IT is all stories.

            You don’t need help. You need to grow up and quit believing in fairy tales.

          • willlam

            I’ll pray for you!

          • Bob Sweatt

            Yeah you waste your time doing that. Meanwhile I will be living my life and having fun.

            Because if I am going to go what you call Hell. I am going to have fun getting there

          • willlam

            You will be “living my life and having fun” as long as your god (satan) allows you to do that. But,my God is in control!! Seek him and his Son,Jesus.

          • Bob Sweatt

            You’re funny. To say I believe in satan means you aren’t reading what I say. I don’t believe in your god. Which means I also don’t believe in satan.

            But you keep spouting all of your hate speech like you did in the gay marriage story. And then you can make yourself feel better by hating other and saying it’s because of what a fictitious character says it’s ok to hate certain people. Meanwhile I will love everyone not matter what skin color or who they choose to love and spend the rest of their live with.

          • willlam

            I do NOT hate my neighbors, becuase God is love. NO it is NOT “ok to hate certain people” Where did you get that from? It does NOT say that anywhere in The Bible! You say you don’t believe in satan? Well he( satan) believes in you! He wants you to keep spouting your negative comments,hoping someone will listen. You are is tool! I’m NOT judging you or your beliefs. That’s NOT my job. Accussing me of hate speeches. How dare you!

          • Bob Sweatt

            So you like gay people then?? If you don’t hate them. Then you have to love them. RIGHT????

            Again religion contradicting its self.

            It’s like Zen said. If we all came from Adam and Eve. Then INCEST is the original sin. OR did your fictitious character make more people appear??

            There was Adam and then Eve. Then they produced Cain and Able. So how did the world come to have over 7 Billion people from only 4 original people??

            I could keep showing all the plot hole in your Bible and show you that according to the Bible some sins had to happen in order for us to become who we are right now.

            One more thing. Everything happen according to God’s will, right?? So it is all God’s fault that this guy died, Isn’t it??

          • willlam

            Listen Sweatt. Teaching you morals is like teaching five year olds to walk in a straight line. Impossible! Now listen carefully. Eve came from the rib of Adam. They are NOT brother and sister. They are man and woman! Adam named her Eve. Therefore,NO incest. I don’t have time to hold your hand and explain,fully!! 1) Cain and Able was the 1st murder. 2) “7 billion”(your est.) are direct desendents of Adam and Eve.period. 3) Jesus DIED for our sins,past,present and future! 4) We became who we are today,sinners,is because Adam ate the “forbidden fruit” God told them NOT to eat,or” you will surely die”. That is why we will die instead of living 900 years! And NO its NOT Gods will or fault “this guy” died. God did NOT stop it!! The reason,nobody knows that,except God!! Be ready for the return!!! PS. Adam eating “the fruit” was the ORIGINAL SIN!!

          • Bob Sweatt

            If you would read other sites other the religious site, 7 billion is pretty exact according too what I looked up before writing that post.

            Ok so there were four people. Again I ask. How did we come to be 7 billion with Cain and/or Able having intercourse witb their mother? So again your bible is om with incest. That is tje only explanation kn how we got to 7 billion.

          • willlam

            Listen Bobby,so many misspellings I can’t read what you are talking about. But we are all guilty of that. Yes there was alot of incest in the Bible,after the eating of the fruit by Adam! Read The First Book of Gods Word. Have a blessed evening!!

          • Bob Sweatt

            Bobby, you say that like ot os going to make me mad. I am 46 years old and everyone I my family calls me that.

            As for the misspelling thing. I think my auto correct function on my phone is working just fine. Maybe you should read some other book to teach you how to spell.

          • willlam

            I’m not suppose to argue The Bible…..soooo

          • Guest

            About time you started putting your 2 cents in.

          • Kelvin Gray

            I’ve got all but one true question. If your social belief is that man evolved from monkeys then why are there still monkeys? Shouldn’t they all be humans by now? What were they the stupid monkeys so they couldn’t evolve? Yeah that saids just about right to me. Prove your theory please. Then after you do that show me how that has anything to do with the death of a 22 year old man. Bob you surely are the sharpest one in a drawer full of dull knives. Didn’t you pray to God when you were in the Navy? Or did they make a special exception just for you?

          • Bob Sweatt

            Actually we evolved from primates. That is why they have thumbs like we do. I don’t need to explain my theory any rather then that, if you want to know. Then read a book.

            And I know full well this doesn’t have anything to do with this guy getting killed.

            Therefore more, I didn’t pray while on the navy. They don’t make you do anything religious while in the service.

            Why didn’t I pray. For one it is a foolish thing to do. Plus I stopped believing on fairly tale when I was like 13.

            I will take the sharp knife thing as a compliment. It is really easy to look smart when you are dealing with people who believe in fairy tale creatures.

            Now let me as you. Do you believe in unicorns , Santa Claus and oh I get it you thinking Harry Potter is real too.

        • willlam

          True Evolutionary crap! We are from Adam and Eve. Study your Bible.

          • Bob Sweatt

            Crap????? Wow you are truly delusional. What cult are you with??

            How about you read any science book or go to a Natural history museum.

          • willlam

            …crap!!!!!!!!!!! The “cult” I belong to? We call ourselves CHRISTIANS,Believers of the Word. There are billons of us! Jesus IS Gods only begotten son and Jesus died,so you could talk non-sense on this thread! One question. How did you survive Jonestown? You didn’t drink the “koolade”? You need to read The Bible and go to church!!!!!!!!!

          • tomfeher

            So we are ALL inbreeds? Oh and praying? The act of doing nothing and making yourself feel good about it

          • willlam

            We will pray for you. Be blessed my neighbor.

      • Mark B

        But yet many want to contine racism by being “African American” Not just Americans , or even humans !

        • willlam

          How is being African-American continuing racism? They are African-Americans! Just like Italian-Americans,Japanese-Americans,Irish-Americans (that’s me) etc! I didn’t think anyone was that stupid,Mr. Mark B.Racist. Please tell us the answer to the question I posed to you.

          • ekwaykway

            Irish Little william speaks out about race and demands answers!

          • willlam

            That’s right!!!!!!!

      • Zen Grouch

        **ALL PEOPLE ARE DECENDENTS of Adam and Eve!**

        So… the original sin is incest?

    • John Demirjian

      Very true, Mark B.

      • Vision

        What is wrong with you John ? What did you teach ? Zoology ? Humans evolved from apes and another common ancestor (most likely whales, dolphins, or mermaids-men, IMO). You can, indeed, take the jungle out of the monkey. Gosh. I take my apology back !

        • John Demirjian

          Ha! Ha! People get worked up once you take a stance that is not appropriate in today’s world of political correctness. I just don’t agree with most, and I’m allowed to have my opinion needless of the opposition to it.

        • WTFnext

          Do you really need to put R.I.P. Antonio at the end of every comment? We get the point already!!

  • Shelanzo Washington

    Rip tony

  • Kelvin Gray

    Someone else said it much better than me.

    NOW HOLD DA HECK UP LIL’ RECKLESS COWARD FOOLS…GOD IS ALREADY TAKING OUR LOVED ONES AWAY AT HIS WILL…HE DON’T NEED NO HELP FROM YOU SCARED TO FIGHT WANNA BE GANGSTAS!! NOW ASK YOUR DUMB BUTT SELVES IS IT WORTH TAKING A LIFE AND GIVING UP YOURS? IS YOUR MONEY LONG ENOUGH TO FIGHT A MURDER CASE? DOES HIS KIDS AND PARENTS DESERVE THE PAIN YOU INFLICTED ON THEM…BETTER YET DO YOUR FAMILY DESERVE THE PAIN WHEN YO DUMB A __ WAITS ON DEATH ROLL OR GET LIFE?!!! I KNEW TONY AND HIS FAMILY. HE NOR HIS FAMILY DESERVE THIS SENSELESS B.S.!! YOU LIL’ FOOLS NEED TO STOP TAKING OUR OWN AND UNIFY!!! R.I.P. LIL TONY!!!

    • hottamomma

      Exactly Kelvin. It was little punk who was scared to fight one on one cause he would got his butt beat

    • Robin Hood

      Because writing something in all capital letters is so much easier on my eyes to read (sarcasm)…thumbs down just because of that, regardless if you made a good point or bad. R.I.P. Antonio.

    • Robin Hood

      The only race war is in your head, not in reality, son. R.I.P Antonio

    • willlam

      What kind of hate mogol are you? The worst kind,that’s what kind! FYI the race war started during The Black Holocaust in Africa,when millions were killed by Whites. Then tens of thousands were killed by Whites,in America, during Slavery. REMEMBER?

      • Mark B

        You do realise that slavery was started in Africa by Blacks , Blacks were sold to americans by Blacks. Also Slavery still continues today in parts of Africa . So keep holding the grudge and Blaming Whites when it fact it was your brother blacks that sold you into slavery.

        • willlam

          Who told you that lie? That is the dumbest comment of ALL time! “Sold me into Slavery”? I don’t think so!!! Who said I have a “grudge and blaming Whites”? Putting words that I did NOT say in your post,again. By analyzing your post. I think you lie alot,uh?…PS you mean “realize”

          • Mark B

            Read and learn . if that is possible .

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa

            here are a couple highlights ….

            Slavery in Africa has not only existed throughout the continent for many centuries, but continues in the current day.
            Historians John Thornton and Linda Heywood of Boston University estimate that 90 percent of those shipped to the New World were enslaved by Africans and then sold to European traders. Henry Louis Gates, the Harvard Chair of African and African American Studies, has stated that “without complex business partnerships between African elites and European traders and commercial agents, the slave trade to the New World would have been impossible, at least on the scale it occurred.

          • willlam

            No. That’s not what happen,Google/wikipedia boy. Read and learn. My Dissertation was about this very topic. To keep it short and so you can understand. The African slave traders were lackeys for the European and Arab slavers! They were turncoats and terrible people. Read, if you can,”King Leopolds Ghost” by Adam Hocshild. Also,”The Black Holocaust for Beginners” byS.E.Anderson or “From Slavery to Freedom” How about these #’s,1200 yrs. of Arab slavery,500 yrs. of European/American slavery!! 100 million KILLED!!

      • ekwaykway

        Hate mogol : Translates into a person who has done very well in the hate trade I guess.

        • willlam

          Right!!!!!

      • Mobetta Jenkem

        If you really, TRULY believe that bullshit, then you are a very special kind of stupid…

        • Vision

          As if you have any room to talk Mobetta.

          • Mobetta Jenkem

            Do the world a huge favor: FOAD.

          • Vision

            If I did that they’d have to start a new religion or embellish and add on to the ones already established. R.I.P. Antonio

      • Zen Grouch

        “REMEMBER?”

        Remember?! Of course I remember! The only fact I lament is that I would have to wait 400 years for Facebook to be invented.

        • willlam

          What!? You need to quit getting high on your own supply.

          • Zen Grouch

            Sorry…

            False memories, most likely triggered by being blamed for s*** that happened *fo’ huhred* years ago.

    • Kelvin Gray

      Fake Rev. Hog (Pig) trust and believe me that you won’t take heed to this but…I’m about sure that I do find any worth in the words that you wasted your time typing for me to read. Because if you had’ve read what was posted I stated that someone else had posted it (or correctly I said someone else said it better than me). Someone that I know whom actually knew this young man. But yeah funny man, keep the punchlines and jokes coming. I love to laugh. Especially when I don’t have to go to a Comedy Show and pay someone to make me. Free is always better.

      • Reverend Bacon

        I was, in fact, referring to the speaker in the third person, not to you (which would have been in the second person). However, the illiteracy tag fits you well. It’s like reading a remedial English paper from the third grade.

        I was glad to have amused 9 or so others, probably most of whom are literate enough to know who Reverend Bacon was, or is, without having to “Google” it.

        • Kelvin Gray

          Told you that you wouldn’t get it. I guess that makes me a predictor of the future…of yours that is. You seen that hole and stepped right in it anyway trying to prove a pointless point. So who killed Tony? A name please.

          And oh by the way thanks for the compliments. Been a long time since I’ve had someone to say such nice wonderful things about me. Even giving me a 3rd graders credit. You sir are too kind. Big thumbs up to Edison Elementary, Elyria, OH.

    • Kelvin Gray

      By race you do mean like very fast race, like Fast & Furious race. I’ll take a Bugatti if you don’t mind. I’d definitely win the race for sure.

    • WTFnext

      It’s death row not death roll. LOL

      • Kelvin Gray

        And it’s nit picking when we don’t anything else to say but…

  • formerlorainresident

    The Aunt states, “she said she knew of no reason why anyone would want to hurt him.”
    Does she not know of his past drug related crimes? I am sure it was not a random shooting, Maybe, just maybe, it has to do with his drug activities. You think?? When you open the door to drugs, you have to accept the consequences of whatever walks through. Especially when you are dealing.

    I do feel sorry for his children, including a five year old child. He would have had to be 16-17 years old when his “girlfriend” became pregnant. I wonder who is paying to raise these children? The aunt who thinks he was such a great guy? Likely it is the taxpayers!

    Did he have a job? Probably not, since he is still under supervision as a consisted felon.

    One makes their own choices, and all choices have consequences. This is a perfect example of bad choices = horrible consequences.

    I am willing to bet anyone here, that once the details surface, his death was a result of his own choices, which included drug dealing. Any takers?

    • Reverend Bacon

      Any successful drug dealer got that way because of a willingness to engage in violence. Although I don’t think drugs should be illegal, the fact is that they are, and thus those who sell them need to do certain things to stay in business. This includes extortion and murder.

      This is a feel-good story, and those who don’t admit that are kidding themselves.

      • willlam

        What? “A feel good story”? Boy,you must be high on your own supply!

      • White Man

        Rev Bacon your living in lala land stop watching so many movies buddy

    • White Man

      White crooked cops started the flow of drugs in this country!! And now make a living locking minorities up for drugs

      • Vision

        False. You’ve watched to many movies and read to many conspiracy theories. Your statement was proven false long ago. An now your trying to influence others with the lies you believe.

    • willlam

      Who made you God? You have NO right to judge anyone,only God has and will be the judge. NOT a myopic thinking fool,like you!

  • Heather Sorg

    Apparently there are people on here concerned with pettiness rather than with the story here. Nothing better to do? My heart goes out to the Spraggins family, regardless of what he has done, that is someone’s family member.

    • Crystal Lynn

      Thank you, Heather. All I can do is shake my head at these comments. Most of these people may not have sold the drugs but I can guarantee you at some point in their lives they’ve tried drugs. Whether pot, acid, or harder street drugs. Apparently all of these people are saints! Can you believe it, Heather….the saints have visited Lorain County’s Chronicle Telegram to caste their judgements on the deceased. My God, it’s like the second coming of Christ.

  • DonMega

    I no a reason somebody would hurt him, maybe because he sold drugs-just guessing.

    • Robin Hood

      *know* a reason…sold drugs, just guessing…
      Does it really matter ? They murdered him.

    • Cordell rone

      Your an idiot!!… careful what you say….karma may fund one of your family members or your dumb self….the family…stupid!! Respect the family!!

      • ZX3

        Did he?

  • cynyhia

    How come when ever someone dies you have to throw up there criminal record!

    • Reverend Bacon

      It might be worse for you if they threw up “there” scholastic record.

      • Mobetta Jenkem

        “scholastic record”

        Duz dat bees frum skoo ‘n sheeit?

    • Robin Hood

      Because, sometimes it’s relevant, but not always.

    • WTFnext

      How come? Do you mean “WHY”?

      • Kelvin Gray

        No. How come. Please explain official editor and chief.

  • T.A.

    No, what we have is a racist white person. Keep those comments to your self because you wouldn’t say this is public.

    • John Demirjian

      Newspaper clearly indicates the dead man was an Afro-american.

  • Mobetta Jenkem

    “Spraggins had a record that included a 2012 conviction for drug
    trafficking, possession of cocaine and possession of drug paraphernalia,
    but Yvette Spraggins said her nephew should be remembered for the
    positive aspects of his life.”

    That is only right and proper; he should ONLY be remembered for the positive things he’d done in his life.

    Such as that one time he remembered to flush after going. He could have refused to do so, but to his eternal credit, bravely decided to do so anyway.

    That, unfortunately, concludes the listing of his “positive aspects,” boys and girls…

    • Robin Hood

      Mobetta, is your real name Ray Johnson by any chance? R.I.P. Antonio

      • willlam

        Get real you wannabe!!

        • Mobetta Jenkem

          Get bent, you jiggtard,,,

          • willlam

            Hey wannabe. What is a” jiggtard”? Enlighten me.

  • Crystal

    My God! Between the CT stating a deceased persons criminal record, which leaves the door wide open for negative comments, to reading these ridiculous comments, I don’t know which is worse. To think one day his children will grow up, possibly pull this article up, read it and these ignorant comments breaks my heart. You should all, including the CT, be ashamed of yourself! Condolences to his family.

    • Reverend Bacon

      He had 2 children already, the first of which was conceived when he was only 16. If his children do grow up, and avoid going to prison like daddy, it will be because they are loads smarter than he was. And if they are, they will already know what “daddy” was, and no bubbles will be burst.

      There is zero chance that this guy was out minding his own business and just happened to catch a projectile at 1200 feet per second. These enlightened comments (or “ignorant” in Newspeak- look it up if you are ignorant of Newspeak) will do little more than underscore a truth that this “man” died learning.

    • Mark B

      Maybe one day when his kids get old enough to read the articles and understand that it is a wise thig to stay away from drugs and wanna be gangstas and go down a rightfull path in their lives . if it saves just one child , would it all not be worth it ?

    • Crystal Lynn

      All I can do is shake my head at these comments. Most of these people may not have sold the drugs but I can guarantee you at some point in their lives they’ve tried drugs. Whether pot, acid, or harder street drugs. Apparently all of these people are saints! Can you believe it, ….the saints have visited Lorain County’s Chronicle Telegram to caste their harsh judgments on the deceased. My God, it’s like the second coming of Christ.

      • ZX3

        You are right Crystal, thank goodness for the dealer and his contribution to society.

    • ZX3

      Please CT, stop reporting the news.

  • Bob Sweatt

    OK didn’t know the guy or anything so I won’t post about him.

    But I will say this. The CT has a right to do their job. Which is to tell the whole story. So printing his criminal record is just them doing their job.

    Stop hating on the CT for doing proper journalism. Be mad at the guy for having a criminal record. Past or present it is still relevant to the story.

    You can put a man on trial, but you can’t make the guilty pay
    And you can cage an animal, but you can’t take away the rage

    • Robin Hood

      “…guilty pay…away the rage…” Yes we can. Prescription medication, community service and or prison labor. R.I.P Antonio.

      • Reverend Bacon

        Need a prescription for pentobarbital?

        • Vision

          For those of you that don’t know, pentobarbital is used to euthanize animals. You call yourself “Reverend” ? R.I.P. Antonio

          • Reverend Bacon

            Including those on two legs. Florida is using it now, as is Texas I believe.

          • WTFnext

            And since you know so much about it, why don’t you know that it is spelled “PHENOBARBITAL”? You kill me acting like an expert and can’t even spell the word properly. I think you are high on your own supply.

          • formerlorainresident

            For the record, it is Pentobarbital.

            Phenobarbital is an entirely different drug.

            Pentobarbital is a short-acting barbiturate, normally used for anesthesia, while phenobarbital is a long-acting barbiturate, most commonly used for anxiety and seizure disorders.

            Does this mean you are the one “who is high on your own supply? Using your logic, this would be the case.

          • Kelvin Gray

            Smoking!!!

          • formerlorainresident

            Don’t you just love to when someone insults another person and they are the one who is incorrect? Kind of takes away a little of their credibility, don’t you think?

            “Open mouth, insert foot please!”

            I am sure there will be an apology forthcoming, but not holding my breath.

          • Kelvin Gray

            Yes I do but I’ve never given any credibility to anything these cyber Rambos have ever said. What can be said in cyberspace but not in someone’s face…well just ain’t worth saying.

          • formerlorainresident

            For the record, no I did not cut and paste this following a “Google” search. Degrees in both pharmacy and organic chemistry make to common knowledge for me.

            Yes, I am an “expert” WTFnext, you clearly are not!! You are the one who needs to quit “acting like one!”

          • formerlorainresident

            Typo….”make this”, not “make to.”

      • Zen Grouch

        You’re not a poet…
        …too bad you don’t know it.

        • Vision

          Really ? Of all the posts on here you single out my response to someone else’s post ? I expect more from you Zen. Sometimes you post some very insightful stuff, other times not so much. R.I.P. Antonio

          • Zen Grouch

            Unless this guy was your cousin or drug dealer, you really should lighten up…

          • Vision

            Yeah, maybe you’re right, but don’t all the racist posts strike a cord with you. I mean, they’re coming from all sides. It makes me sick to my stomach. R.I.P. Antonio

          • Zen Grouch

            There are many shades of racism and common sense…

            …think of ‘em as forces of nature.

    • willlam

      Boy was that a weak exit in a moment of defeat! I didnt know you were that soft!!!

  • Jimmy Hogjowels

    How can anyone convicted of drug trafficking, cocaine possession, and possession of drug paraphernalia in 2012 be out on the streets before the end of 2013? Which crazy judge let him out?

    A drug dealer/pusher is dead and we can celebrate this tiny victory in the war on drugs. That convict will never again harm society with his evil poisonous drugs.

  • hottamomma

    Yes CT is doing their posting his bad criminal record.but the should investigate and print his non criminal good things he has done. The good should go along with the bad

    • Pablo Jones

      Maybe they did post all the positive things. There just wasn’t any.

      • hottamomma

        Everybody has done something bad in their past and I’m sure everyone has done something good in their past. At least I hope. Lol

    • read the whole story

      They did immediately follow it up with positive words from a loving aunt.

      • hottamomma

        But to bad it wasn’t from CT. Don’t be mad when someone in ur family dies and CT post the extra marital affairs they were having that didn’t no one know about. Or all the stop signs they paused at and didn’t stop. But u came back with a good one though, I will give that.

        • WTFnext

          They posted public information that is available to anyone. I don’t really think that someone’s extra marital affair is on any website for them to look up. That goes for not stopping at stop signs also. Unless of course, the police caught them and ticketed them. In that case it is public information too.
          How could they post anything about an affair “that didn’t no one know about”? That is contradictory.
          Some people will say anything.

          • hottamomma

            Obviously that point flew over it head. So if didn’t get it then u don’t deserve to

    • WTFnext

      The CT is doing their? Should the word “job” be in there.
      But “the” should investigate. Perhaps you meant “they”?
      Non-criminal good things. Isn’t non criminal and good pretty much synonymous?
      You really need to utilize that spell check button, since it doesn’t seem to come to you naturally!

      • hottamomma

        Here goes the spelling police. Since u obviously don’t no much about electronics, my tablet has mine of its own. I can write one word and it will put down another or nothing at all. I’m tired of ‘re correcting it, but anyone who reads understands it. I see understood it to the T. This is not a classroom so we don’t have b correct. As long as my point gets across

  • Zen Grouch

    Convicted drug dealer shot to death under suspicious circumstances…
    …yeah, whatever.

    What I want to know is, what kind of classy ladies might I expect to find in a bar called *T&A*

    I mean, is this my one stop shopping location, for when I’m feeling randy and in need smack?

    • ekwaykway

      I guess Zen needs to have his buns spanked.

      • Zen Grouch

        You’d guess wrong then…

        …drug addicted black prostitutes aren’t into the kinky stuff.

        • Vision

          Whatever Zen, then you aren’t offering them enough money or they aren’t desperate enough yet. Again, I expect more intelligence from you Zen. Comment on the posts that really need addressed or I’m going to continue calling you out on that type of nonsense.

          • Zen Grouch

            Forgive me for not being an expert in the ways of drug addled black prostitutes…

            Maybe you should corral that vast knowledge base of yours and write a book.

            I suggest a title of, “Crack Ho’s for Dummies”

          • Vision

            Point made and taken. Just keep in mind what brought you to this thread. R.I.P. Antonio

        • ekwaykway

          Ohhhhh, I get it. Lol, good one.

  • Guest

    wow

  • OnTheFence

    Point is you’re a racist piece of trash who placed no value on his life because of his color. Had you stated something along the lines of his criminal record that would at least make sense. Feels good to know people like you are a dying breed haha

  • Lori

    I can’t believe how ignorant some of you people are. “Let him who is without sin cast the first stone” This family is in pain and mourning right now, leave them alone, let them grieve. You people don’t know his circumstances, his life, his personality, his love for god. None of you are angels and you will be judged by our maker for what you are doing now. Murder is Murder

    • Bob Sweatt

      Leave them alone??? Why would they be paying any attention to what anyone says on here.

      They should focus on their family and help each other get through this troubled time. NOT be reading comment’s on a website.

      • Lori

        Your Absolutely right Bob they are helping each other get through this and your comments are of no help, These comments are offensive to humanity as a whole.

        • Bob Sweatt

          How is my comment about explaining exactly how journalism works OFFENSIVE??

          • Vision

            Maybe it was the metaphor, “…guilty pay…take away the rage …” comment. Contrary to what your meme picture states, Bob, humans cannot see through a Bulls poo-poo or anyone elses, which makes everything that your picture claims less believable. Mr. “…I’m one of the nicest people you’ll ever meet”. R.I.P. Antonio. I’m done now. I’m out. You people are exhausting. I don’t care anymore.

        • Bob Sweatt

          If they are offensive then STOP reading them.

          • Guest

            Your the one commenting on what I say sweetheart.. I’m gonna pray for you because you are a wounded, sad soul.

          • Bob Sweatt

            Please save your foolish praying for someone who believes in that fairy tale.

    • ZX3

      His family I’m sure knew his life and let him live it.

  • Vision

    And you used to be a teacher ? Shame. What, did you suffer from schizophrenia and have to retire or something ? Shame on you John. Shame on you. You really are a brick in the wall today. R.I.P. Antonio

  • willlam

    Racist common of the day,so far!

    • John Demirjian

      That’s exactly what you have, another dead black man in Elyria. What the hell is racist about that observation? You’re making stuff up.

      • OnTheFence

        Harmless observation? Every comment you have made about blacks is dripping with disdain. Stop it. R.I.P Tony.

        • John Demirjian

          No one says I have to coddle up to the Black population. I don’t have to like them just because they exist.

          • Kelvin Gray

            Idiot.

          • John Demirjian

            Thanks, Kelvin. Again no one says I have to coddle up to the Black population and their problems. I don’t have to be forced to be part of something I don’t like just because it exists. But notice I’m not calling people names. I am just stating a conviction, and I’m allowed to do that whether you feel I’m an idiot or not.

          • Kelvin Gray

            And now that you have supposably explaind your reason for thinking like that I’m supposed to change what I think? I apologize but…nope still think the same thing.

          • Kelvin Gray

            I could care less what you actually think. But it’s just a fact that you would go and state your opinion on a thread about a dead young man. Of course your stupidity is covered under the freedom of speech act. And my stupidity is just covered under the fact that I just act that way. But it has nothing to do with the person’s skin color. But yet how they react to myself. And you sir are a comedian. Your comments keep me laughing and laughing. Sometimes I wish I really was black. :-)

      • Vision

        I apologize John. I know, in your hey day, blacks were commonly referred to as African Americans, on important documents and in academics. But some time at the start of the new millennium it was deemed more proper to refer to them as just blacks. To my knowledge it was the more educated black Americans who brought about this change. But still, you’re original comment was offensive, if not insensitive. i.e. “Afro- American” There were never any Afro-Americans John, just African Americans. Technically, black Americans could be considered descendants of African Americans, but that’s about it. IMO

        • John Demirjian

          Exactly who really gives a hoot? The man’s dead. Not too much you can do about it, except find the killer.

  • Mark B

    Shows on his facebook page that he is a player for life , maybe he played the wrong girl !

  • Phil Blank

    Explain who Carter is.
    His name is in here and that is all?

    • Zen Grouch

      *her* name…

    • ekwaykway

      T&A bar owner Phil.

  • Cordell rone

    What does the young mans record have to do with being a victim..very distasteful & meaningless…maybe you should cover Home & gardens or the police blotter …..idiot!

    • ZX3

      I’d say his record showed the road he was traveling would end up being a dead end.

    • rob

      If it was drug related, he might be a victim of his lifestyle. Deaths like these are unfortunate but we need to stop hiding from the truth. Addicts are dying, dealers are dying and people feel guilty talking about whats real. Bare withness to the consequences and set an example. These people wont be the last to die. We need to find the answer for why this is happening and how to fix it, its really complex and your only getting somewhere if feelings get hurt.

  • Arietta Sullivan

    i think it is quite sad to see how many people can assume then on the other hand it’s a reassurance to know i’m human when i do it too.in the long run..a man got shot&killed.i read just about all the comments&just kept shaking my head. what matters where the shooting took place,what matters if the dude had a criminal past,what matters if people are spelling wrong,what matters who believes in God&Satan and who doesn’t,what matters of his color&the bar that he was at that night, etc etc..a man is dead from actions from another human&why can’t everybody just say ‘RIP’ and move on. i’m starting to believe that this so called blog isn’t just for opinions but a way just to be hateful&say it’s ok!!!! it’s a blog.

  • formerlorainresident

    For all those above who inject God and the Bible in this discussion, I remind you of the well-known biblical parable, which states, those “who live by the sword, die by the sword”

    Unfortunately, Antonio fulfilled this prophecy, as he became a victim of whatever means he used to get what he wanted. You draw the sword through your actions, the sword will be drawn on you. Those who killed Antonio will soon learn this as well

    If you prefer Indian religious concepts, it is known as Karma. Antonio’s actions were directly responsible for the sad results. Simple “cause and effect.”

    Bottom line is this. Had he chose a productive life, without participating in illegal activities and instead was at home with his children that fateful night, he would still be alive to celebrate Christmases, birthdays, graduations and weddings with his family.

    It is a sad situation, however one which Antonio created through his choices. While we all make bad decisions at times, most of us learn, accept responsibility and move on. Based on his criminal record, he was given this chance, but choose to ignore it, instead repeating the same behaviors, for which he paid the ultimate price.

    Fortunately, no innocent persons were killed through this violent act. A stray bullet entering an innocent child’s bedroom, his SUV crashing into a home or another vehicle, killing another person whose only “crime” was being in the same area.

    I am sure once the killers are caught we will be hearing similar stories about what “great” people they are and how much they loved their families. They are simply misunderstood and really not bad people. It was society that made them this way, it is our fault, not theirs, and we are really the ones responsible.

    “Live by the sword, die by the sword”

  • ekwaykway

    So what happens now? Set up a memorial with ribbons and balloons? Print up tee shirts? Or is that just for gang members?

    • willlam

      White people set up flowers and memorials,Blacks and gang members are not allow to do this?

  • Nanette Bennington Hartman

    SO, WHAT I AM READING, IS THAT THE SPELLING AND GRAMMAR OF EACH PERSONS COMMENTS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE LOSS OF A LIFE. WOW. ELYRIA HAS COME A LONG WAY. SHAKE MY HEAD FOR THOSE GRAMMAR FREAKS. WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD SINCE I AM GUESSING MANY WOULD NOVE UNDERSTOOD SMH. NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON WAS, AND WHO HE WAS, A LIFE IS LOST BECAUSE OF A NO GOOD SOMEONE. DRUGS? DOES IT MATTER? NOT REALLY THE POINT IS THAT A PERSON LOST HIS LIFE. OH AND IF IT WAS DRUG RELATED, THEN HOW SAD IT REALLY IS, THAT ANOTHER PERSON HAD SUCCUMBED TO THAT LIFESTYLE. IT IS REALLY SAD THAT PEOPLE WANT TO CONDEMN OTHER FOR SPELLING AND HOW THEY DIED. IF IT WAS YUR FAMILY MEMBER YOU WOULD BE SAD NO MATTER WHO AND WHERE. SHAME ON YOU ELYRIA. OH AND HAVE A FIELD DAY ON MY COMMENT. CUZ THATS THA IMPORTANT THING HERE….

    • Vision

      Go back and type like a normal person, instead of putting everything in capital letters and maybe we will actually read what you posted. Use proper punctuation and grammar to express yourself. Do not try and reinvent the alphabet or English language and how it’s used. We will take you much more seriously. The future is much brighter with a grasp on even just elementary-level grammar and spelling. One needs to take themselves seriously to be taken seriously by others.

      • Kelvin Gray

        And dat be’s me N what dare main? I do’s be’s c’rious?

        • Kelvin Gray

          Now, and that means what exactly? I am curious. Because no matter how it’s typed it seems as though the pretenders can still understand. But all I wanna know is who killed this young man? You mean to tell me that with all the “right people” who have so many of the right answers about everything, they can’t tell you who actually pulled the trigger on this young man? And no not a joke and a punchline, I mean a real true bonified mystery solving answer. I loved it so much better when the Chronicle suspended people from making any comments at all. I’m a fool and I know it. But some of the others on here won’t admit it, but there posts show it. And I DON’T care who likes or dislikes what I just said. I only speak truthful, not to be liked. God Bless Your soul Tony. I don’t have a Heaven or Hell to put you in. But I know who does. And He has the last say about everything.

          Judge not, that ye be not judged.

          For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again

          • Vision

            And if you’re not a good little boy or girl, Santa Claus won’t bring you any gifts next Christmas either. You left that part out.

          • Kelvin Gray

            You know what…SKIP him too!!! I buy my own gifts anyway.

          • WTFnext

            Did you buy anything from Antonio?? Just curious because some of your comments elude to that.

          • Kelvin Gray

            WTF are saying. Got me over here rolling. Do me a favor first, go read another post please. I think that you just might LOVE IT. :) And I think it might be easier for you or your children, grand children, nieces, nephews, brothers, sisters, or cousin than myself there good buddy. I’m not even that close to the Buckeye to reach out like that. But smoke some for me and tell me about it later why don’t cha. Since you’re so darn gone curious.

    • rob

      There is more to the story, that is why. If this were just a story of death it would be reserved to the obituaries. A 22 year old man was shot and killed. 4 seniors from brunswick were killed jumping railroad tracks. Why is it uncomfortable to tell the consequences of making bad decisions? Becoming a rich and famous rapper cannot be the only exposed outcome of dealing drugs. To dismiss the lesson is a greater disrespect to this young man. He didnt have to be evil just because he had a record, in fact im sure he was the great guy his family described. Good people make bad decisions all the time.

      • Vision

        Some of us are beneficiaries, survivors, or victims of our environment. I do not believe we always get to choose.

        • rob

          We all have the right to choose our paths as adults, some learn from the mistakes of others, some learn from mistakes of their own and others serve as the tragic reminder to the world, that we are all on borrowed time and our choices are a factor in how much time we get.

        • formerlorainresident

          You always have a choice, unless you are a child.

  • Kelvin Gray

    And as the 1st 48hrs tick away does the police have any leads? After a full day of work outside in subzero tempts and I come back to the same ole same ole from this morning. This is why I miss Lorain County so much.

    • Vision

      *…first 48 hours…*
      *…do the police…*
      *…After a full day of working outside, in subzero temperatures, I come…*
      *…ole’ same ole’…”
      *…Lorain county…*
      Patience is a virtue. R.I.P. Antonio

  • Kelvin Gray

    So as I’m forced to take a day because of the weather I say, curtains persons are obviously out looking for laughs. WTF really what the____ are you saying? All that typing amounts to what again? Bobby boy…stop Sweatting everyone’s jock so hard. So you didn’t make your point. And nobody cares really. The military really should have taught you better. Come out your comfy confines of no mans land and enjoy it all. The good and the bad. Mr. Bacon, your not a minister of the word. No man should truly call themselves reverend, as it pertains to the Holy Reverence of Our Lord and Savior. Well mine at least, I can’t and don’t pretend to speak for everyone else.

    It’s amazing how far off track we’ve gotten. But it happens everytime. Everyone wants to talk about how fast their car (mouth & mind) is and how they can beat you in any race. On foot, car, motorcycle, bus, mouth even being stupid. Well you can’t beat me in being stupid, I can be pretty ignorant sometimes. And this isn’t one of them…yet. But what I’m trying to figure out (and I know I should leave it alone) is what race is it that you people keep talking about? And yes I said you people. Because you’re definitely not me. Because I know someone correct me because I just may be wrong here, but I thought we were in the SAME RACE. The human race of existence. I know, I know it’s totally possible that I’m wrong. And I’m man enough to admit that. But it’s always they same few people whom obviously don’t have enough else to do, that makes most of the positive/negative statements. Then try to tear other posters down when they don’t agree with them. Well I say skip all ya’ll. I don’t care if you agree with me or not. But I’m not gonna verbally beat you down because you don’t agree. I’m gonna light into you and not let up because you invited yourself into a verbal fight that wasn’t meet to be a fight. And before you say it, yep everything your saying and thinking about me is true. EVERYTHING. In your mind that is. Because if it wasn’t way would you say or think things that were untrue? Better to let think your a fool than to let them know for sure by opening your mouth. Or better for this reason here, start typing. But I’ve already let you know that I’m a fool. And admitted to it too. So I can pretty much let loose. Have a bad one folks. Now let the negative comments and insults fly. I expect them and I give something you need…permission and ammunition. Gosh I love this place. :)