September 18, 2014

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Ford to lay off more than 900 workers

Ford Motor Co.'s Ohio Assembly Plant in Avon Lake is seen in this 2011 file photo. The plant announced Monday that it will lay off more than half of its workforce.

Ford Motor Co.’s Ohio Assembly Plant in Avon Lake is seen in this 2011 file photo. The plant announced Monday that it will lay off more than half of its workforce.

AVON LAKE — About half of the 1,886 workers at Ford Motor Co.’s Ohio Assembly Plant will be laid off as part of restructuring at the plant, said a Ford spokeswoman.

Spokeswoman Kristina Adamski released an email statement on the layoffs after Avon Lake Mayor Greg Zilka confirmed that he had spoken with Ford officials, who said employees would be laid off during the plant’s retooling for a new product line later this year.

“As part of our One Ford plan, Ford continues to restructure its manufacturing footprint to match capacity with demand. With the all-new Transit van starting at the Ford Kansas City Assembly Plant later this year, the Ford Ohio Assembly Plant is preparing to balance out our E-Series van production,” read the email statement. “While Ohio Assembly retools for future product, the plant will experience some down time and approximately half of the plant employees will go on layoff until further notice.

“Ford remains committed to Ohio Assembly, and the plant will continue to play a key role in Ford’s global manufacturing strategy. ”

Adamski did not indicate whether the layoffs would be permanent, but Zilka said he was informed that the plant intends to rehire some workers.

“They hope and expect that they will call more back after the initial layoffs,” he said.

Adamski said more information on the workforce will be shared when it becomes available.

On Jan. 3, Ford announced that 2013 marked its best sales year since 2006, with a 14 percent rise in overall sales.

The plant is scheduled to start producing the F-650 and F-750 trucks this year under a long-term agreement announced in late 2011 among the automaker, state and union officials. The facility has long been the home of the Econoline van, which is expected to be phased out.

Groundwork for the deal to bring F-Series production to Avon Lake began in 2007 when the plant’s Econoline van production was reportedly slated to be sent to Michigan.

It is not clear when Econoline production will end.

Opened in 1974, the Ohio Assembly Plant is a 3.7-million-square-foot facility on 419 acres in Avon Lake, Sheffield and Sheffield Lake.

Contact Chelsea Miller at 329-7123 or cmiller@chroniclet.com. Follow her on Twitter @ChelseaMillerCT.


  • derp

    Buy American! Even when they send those jobs to Mexico….

    • stop ur whining

      you can thank your unions for sending those jobs out of the US

      • Joe Smith

        And over regulation

        • Tommy Peel

          If it wasn’t for regulations the water that you drink and the air that you breathe and the earth itself would be contaminated, thanks to greedy corporations.

          • Pablo Jones

            Those greedy corporations do more to clean up the Earth than you probably do.

          • Tommy Peel

            And you too!!!

          • Pablo Jones

            I don’t have millions in money and resources that those greedy corps do. without them our world would be more polluted.

          • Tommy Peel

            neither do I. without regulations our world would be more polluted.

          • Pablo Jones

            There is a balance that needs to be maintained. A prosperous country can do more to keep the environment clean and help clean it up more than a non-prosperous country. You can make the strictest environmental rules in the world, and the businesses will go out of business or leave. Look at the third world countries, no businesses and their environment is being destroyed.

            If current regulations were removed probably 95% of businesses would still follow them, they won’t say great now we can dump our pollution in the rivers again. For those that do go back and try and save some money by dumping they would quickly go out of business from the bad PR.

            As you said above regulations helped clean up America, but without those “greedy” corporations all the regulations in the world would do nothing to clean up the Earth.

          • Tommy Peel

            If there wasn’t any regulations, and companies dumped pollution in the rivers, how would people know? and going out of business from the PR? I don’t think so.

          • Pablo Jones

            Well don’t you have very little faith in the media and environmentalist movement. Maybe you would have more faith in tort lawyers that would love to sue every company that did start dumping in the rivers. Doesn’t matter if it is legal or not you just have to show damages.

            And plenty of companies have been brought down due to bad PR.

          • Tommy Peel

            Pable this is the 2014, if there wasn’t any regulations,then that piece of meat you ate this morning might be mislabled, and the milk you drink would probably be watered down, and the water you drink ,your medicine everything you use in your daily life. how would you be certain it is safe. Also you seem to think that 95% of companies would regulate themselves,, now thats funny!! would you rather eat the food WITH regulations? or WITHOUT regulations? Lets see if you tell the truth with your answer!

          • Tommy Peel

            pablo, if you look at the third world countries they have”extremely poor environment problems. usually creating and enforcing environmental regulations would be economically disastrous to a poor country. Also you have rich first world company that dump waste and emit very dangerous chemicals into the air there, because the enforcement of regulations go unchecked.

      • K Gi

        Thank your CONservative kronies for sending jobs overseas. Overseas = more money to line their pockets.

        • stop ur whining

          No, no, no. Thank your unions for demanding wages that were above their worth.

          Today if you want more money, get an education and earn it. The days of making great money for doing work that only requires GED level knowledge are at an end.

          • Denise Caruloff

            I had a friend that worked at that plant…he would have his buddy punch him out end of shift..but he left early and his buddy had a six pack waiting for him at his car…2 other friends worked at lorain plant..they both claimed a disability and receive 90 percent of their pay…while they work under the table…and yep..the unions were there to protect them. Sad the plant is laying off…but are we really that surprised…start prospecting for work now..or will you be one of those looking for an extension after bene’s run out. ugh!

          • stop ur whining

            That sounds about right .

          • Tommy Peel

            It seems that your friend was stealing company time. A union can’t protect someone’s job for stealing company time.

          • stop ur whining

            Yes, the most certainly can. I worked for the City for a few years and saw on more than one occasion the union saving someones job. From drinking on the clock, leaving early, misconduct. You name it i saw it, other than someone getting fired of course.

            In every case there would be minor discipline and send them on their way.

            Want an example…Matt Jurco…union kept bailing him out. Arrested for DUI and drugs while operating a city vehicle and he was not fired. Any non union employee gonna get that break?

          • Tommy Peel

            Unions that represent workers have contracts with their employer. All contracts aren’t written the same with regard to disciplinary action. For example, An employee might break the rules and it is determined that he/she was under the influence of something. Some contracts are written to where that employee can go to treatment and maybe keep his/her job. Another company and the union might have a contract where any employee who has a problem”drugs, alcohol” etc. should seek help BEFORE he/she breaks some kind of rule that would result in disciplinary action or termination because once the rule is broken, they can’t claim they have a problem and go to treatment and get their job back. It all depends on the agreement. It seems the City has a agreement {contract} that favors the worker in these type of situations.

          • stop ur whining

            ALL UNIONS PROVIDE SAFETY NETS TO CATCH THEM WHEN THEY SCREW UP.

          • Tommy Peel

            that is your opinion: even though its not true.
            Don’t let your hatred of unions get in the way of common sense thinking..

          • stop ur whining

            Not an opinion, fact. unions protect the lazy and under educated.
            “Some contracts are written to where that employee can go to treatment”

            YOu helped prove my point. ANY non-union job does not protect you in anyway shape or form from these issues. If i drink on the job and get caught, im fired. I am not placed in a treatment program, and rightfully so.

            Face it, once you are in a union you are set.

          • Tommy Peel

            i didn’t help you prove your point. I tried to explain it to you in the most simple way possible. YOu still didn’t comprehend. You seem to have a one-track mind. Maybe you can get someone to explain if for you. You seem to gloat whenever someone has a problem. Everything isn’t always cut and dry. Are you living under a rock? I sympathize with people getting laid off, and losing their job. You seem happy that the Ford workers are going to getting laid off. If you think union workers have it sooo good, then maybe you should join one. In the mean time “stop ur whining!!!

          • 6sigma

            #denise…..stop with your Lies! If you knew ANYTHING about the facility you would know that the Supervisor checks in every hourly person in his or her area of responsibility so “clocking” someone in and out is impossible. Obviously you don’t have a clue as to what happens inside the plant. The workers at OHAP are the BEST in the world for Quality and Safety measurables. The workers and the UAW have worked together with the Company to make it an easy decision to place future product in the plant by their hard work at producing a World Class Quality vehicle. Your negativity is a reflection on your ignorance and can only be interpreted as such.
            The UAW has been a great Community leader as well and has donated hundreds of thousands of dollars back into the community. Apparently you would not want to talk about that but rather say something negative about these hard working, quality conscious people of ohio assembly.

          • John Boy

            I don’t know how it is now, but I know in the past what she says is true. The union would fight to save the job of a thief while fighting the company on every move that would help the company be more profitable, remember the GEN pool? The UAW fat cats screwed their union brothers. ..

          • stop ur whining

            great community leader…yea, ok…Unions do nothing except protect the under-educated and screw ups.

          • 6sigma

            Look it up…..UAW Local 2000 has donated and supported numerous City and County Organizations – Anywhere from children, veterans, and the needy. You are showing your ignorance as well….. please just stop commenting you show your ignorance everytime you post something about organized labor and workers having a voice. You are a simple minded individual with a very narrow scope of the challenges that the working people confront on a daily basis…..you are a sad individual…I will pray for your enlightenment.

          • stop ur whining

            Hooray they sponsor little league teams!!! Donation of money is merely PR. That is all it ever is on any level. “look at us, we are great”. Spare me. It still does not change the fact that unions keep undereducated and screw ups employed at a competitive wage.

          • SniperFire

            Anyone who grew up in the area knows these UAW drunk-sleep-on-the job stories. Many who have worked there are the first to tell them.

          • Tommy Peel

            Ford is restructuring, its not the unions fault that they want to restructer their facility.

          • SniperFire

            You figure labor costs have nothing to do with restructuring then, Tommy? ROTFLMAO

          • Tommy Peel

            In this case, No, Ford is retooling for a new product line. Read the article.

          • SniperFire

            We will just add ‘restructuring’ to the long list of things you clearly know nothing about. LOL

          • stop ur whining

            and watch how many get rehired.

        • SniperFire

          The least likely voter demographic to buy an American Union made product is – you guesssed it – a Liberal. Look in the mirror if you want to know who be shippin those jobs overseas with their purchase decisions, KG.

          • Tommy Peel

            The companies that ship jobs overseas get tax incentives which allows them to deduct moving expenses. They keep profits offshore to avoid paying their fair share of income taxes. there is over 1trillion dollars of untaxed corporate profits sitting overseas.
            What do liberals have to do with that?

          • SniperFire

            ‘The companies that ship jobs overseas get tax incentives which allows them to deduct moving expenses.’ You are just repeating Leftist tripe. All operating expenses are deductible ‘tax incentives’. And there are no ‘untaxed corporate profits’ overseas. Those are foreign subsidiaries. And why are you blathering about that and trying to distract from the FACT that Liberals are the least likely people in America to buy a product made by an American Union worker?

          • Tommy Peel

            There is a difference between a tax incentive and a tax deduction. Everything in life is not “liberal or conservative” How in the world could you present facts that says one political group or another buys union products> Its absurd. you seem to have tunnel vision.

          • SniperFire

            ‘There is a difference between a tax incentive and a tax deduction. ‘ You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you? LOL

          • SniperFire

            As a liberal, Tommy, you are of course a natural serial liar. But you know that.
            http://newslines.org/wiki/fact-checks/are-there-tax-breaks-for-u-s-companies-that-move-jobs-overseas/

          • Tommy Peel

            Who said I was a liberal? I thought you were a liberal. Are you?

          • Pablo Jones

            They are keeping the corporate taxes high which makes the companies produce and sell products out of the country and not bring that money back. It is not a mystery they state the reason. And the liberals response is to want and tax them more.

          • Tommy Peel

            Pablo it is about greed and not paying their fair share of taxes.

          • Pablo Jones

            Their fair share? What is their fair share? 10%, 20%, 30%, 50%, 80%, or 100%? How much do they have to pay for their fair share?

            Funny that you say they are greedy because they don’t want to pay, but you don’t think you are being greedy by never being happy with what they pay. I guess employing millions of people allowing them to raise their families and the billions they already pay in taxes isn’t enough.

            People like you think they should pay more and then wonder why they move operations out of the country and don’t bring the money back. You are like the guy that beats his wife and doesn’t understand why she doesn’t love you so you beat her more thinking that will make her love you.

          • Oneday67

            I guess the fair share is what ever Tommy Peel thinks it should be. Too funny

          • Oneday67

            Fair share? Fair share? You lose all credibility when you start flinging that term around.

          • stillsleepyeyes

            Now that’s not fair…………..you chased tommy away………lol……….

          • Tommy Peel

            I never still here!!

          • Tommy Peel

            Pablo whatever the subject on this board, your talking points always seem to be its liberal or democratic or conservative or republican. I don[‘t know about you, but I tend to make my own observations, not repeat what another group of people believe.

          • Pablo Jones

            Well Tommy then please explain your thought process for why a company would want to stay local when the local people view the company only as greedy polluters that need to be taxed more? Why would companies want to come back to the USA when people are saying they aren’t paying their fair share and they need to pay more taxes? People don’t go to where they pay more. Look at gas prices if one station is $3.45 and the other across the street is $2.95 where are all the cars?

            So please tell me from your own observations why businesses would come instead of leaving?

  • Gun toting cracker

    When my ’02 F250, and my ’08 KIA sit side by side in my driveway, both with 80K miles I look at the Ford, rusted out, every body panel has a gaping hole in it. The right door panel flaps in the wind…

    The KIA doesn’t have a mark on it, looks like new. I will never invest in another rust bucket. I don’t care what Ford does. Next time I invest thirty thousand for a truck, it won’t be rusted out @ 80 thousand miles.

    • Joe Smith

      Rust should more be measure by years, not miles. You have 6 more years for the Kia to rust.

  • SniperFire

    It is just a matter of time. Right-to-work states will grab what is left of domestic auto production over the next decade.

  • John Davidson

    The unions are killing this country. They want us to buy their union made cars but they were the ones that would not buy union made clothing and other things made in the USA because of cost. Then they shop at K-Mart and Walmart while they protest the low pay for the people who work there.

    • 6sigma

      Kmart’s distribution centers are UAW. Contrary to what you said is that the union doesn’t dictate where the members shop. Please know before you speak on a subject.

    • Michael A. Figueroa

      Exactly how are unions “killing this country” when fewer than 7% of private sector workers belong to a union?

      • Pablo Jones

        Because the majority of public workers belong to a union. Their demands and politicians desire for their votes has raised taxes on everything across the country.

        • Tommy Peel

          Pablo, you said that the majority of public workers belong to a union. That would make it over 50%. If you would check before posting something that is wrong, you would know that union membership in the public sector is 35%
          Also the last time I checked, politicians don’t care if the people who vote for them are union or non-union, as long as they get the vote. And please explain how a person voting has anything to do with raising taxes!

          • Pablo Jones

            Teachers belong to a union. Police belong to a union, Firemen belong to a union. Local government employees belong to unions. Over 43% of local government employees belong to a union. Those that don’t are part time or in Whoville, Nebraska. Which means in a city with more than 5,000 most of the government workers are in a union. Look at the cities in Northern Ohio, which government employees aren’t in unions?

            You are right politicians don’t care about anything but getting votes and re-elected. What is the best way to get votes, by giving the unions everything they want so they can tell their members and family members to vote for the politicians that will give them the most goodies. So once the politician gives the raises and benefits they have to be paid for, if the money doesn’t exist they need to raise taxes.

          • Tommy Peel

            You said: the majority of public workers belong to a union> even though the figure is around 35%. now you have spun it to say in a city with more than 5,000, people they belong to a union> make up your mind. you are good with spinning numbers. You are the same person who said just 2 weeks ago that $24 billion wasn’t alot of money.

          • Pablo Jones

            Tommy, how many government workers do you know that don’t belong to a union or covered with a collective bargaining agreement (aside from the politicians, they are paid representatives not employees). In Elyria who doesn’t belong to the union? Maybe part time workers or Summer help? The rest are in a union. Look at any of the cities that are covered by this paper and find those that aren’t. Where you may find them are in the small towns that have 2 employees.

            The majority of the people in this country live in areas where there are public sector unions. These unions sell their votes to the politicians that give them the most. These costs are paid onto the tax payers through new levies and taxes. As the taxes go up that means there is less for the people.

            Size is relative. $24 billion for a person or a city is a lot. $24 billion for the Federal Government that spends $4 trillion, it is nothing. For a business that does hundreds of billion in business and employs hundreds of thousands of employees and pays several times $24 billion in wages, benefits, and taxes it isn’t a lot.

          • Tommy Peel

            No matter where you find public workers who belong to a union, Only about 36% of public workers belong to a union. Unions DON’T sell votes, and levies and taxes are raised so communites can deliver the services and education etc. to their citizens thats needed

          • Pablo Jones

            Paying public employees more doesn’t not improve services. If your garbage collectors are paid more it won’t change trash collection. If the IRS is paid more it won’t make paying your taxes easier, you will just pay more taxes. And paying teachers more doesn’t improve the education.

          • Tommy Peel

            You said that: the majority of public workers belong to a union” Even though the figure is about 36%. now you are spinning it to say ” in cities with more that 5000 people. make up your mind. you are very good at spinning figures. You are the same person that told me 2 weeks ago that $24billion wasnt alot of money. $24,000,000,000 thats what it looks like, it seems like alot of money to me!!

          • Tommy Peel

            There isn’t any best way to get votes,. I could say that giving corporations money and tax breaks so they can vote for you,so they can tell their family members to vote for the politicians that will give them the most tax breaks, or cutting back on regulations, so that the people who work at the company and their families will vote for you, but that really isn’t logical thinking. When a person goes into a voting booth, whether they are dem or rep. No one knows how they vote. No matter what they tell you before they go into the booth.

          • Pablo Jones

            People for companies don’t directly benefit from voting politicians in. Sure their company could get some tax credits but that doesn’t mean the workers will get a raise. But if politicians promise to give city workers a 3% raise for the next 3 years if they get re-elected and they pass a tax levy then it does directly effect the workers and their family. Who wouldn’t vote for a 0.5% tax increase if it means they will get 3% a year increase for the next 3 years and after 3 years they will do it again.

          • Tommy Peel

            Then why do companies pay lobbyist? If you owned a company and a politician told you to vote for him and he would give you x”amount of dollars if you hired 10 people a year for the next 3 yrs. they would do it. You use the word “if” quite a bit in your analogies,.You have politics and common sense mixed up>

      • Mark B

        Pay real close attention to the very last part and your question will be answered .
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1OkZ3xowKQ

    • Tommy Peel

      Corporate greed is what is killing this country. Corporations are not people. Walmart is a multi-billion dollar company. It wouldn’t hurt them to pay the workers just a little more.And people tend to shop and spend their money wherever they want.

      • Pablo Jones

        Those evil corporate profits go to the pension funds and retirement funds that allow most people to retire. Walmart pays more than minimum wage and more than the unionized Kroger.

        • Tommy Peel

          The average hourly pay at Walmart is $8.80. they made over 450Billion last year. Kroger made less than 2billion. question: who should pay their employees more? Also I don’t think anyone can retire off of the benefits that Walmart pays.You are comparing apples to oranges.

          • SniperFire

            Classic communist thinking.

          • Pablo Jones

            Tommy, you don’t seem to understand much about business do you. Walmart did not make $470 billion last year, they had $470 billion in revenue ( Kroger had $97 billion in revenue. Nice job trying to skewing the numbers). They had to pay $350 billion for that money (cost of products). That leaves about $120 billion, of that money they have to pay their operating costs (cost of stores, wages, benefits, etc.). This leaves them with about $27 billion of which they pay 1/3 in taxes of about $8 billion. The remainder goes to the owners of Walmart, which are not just the Waltons but the millions of shareholders, which include pension and mutual funds. That means anyone who has a retirement account or pension benefits by Walmart making money.

            Walmart makes more money because they are larger than Kroger. Unions are against Walmart because they have low wages, yet they are higher than the union shop. And Walmart’s health insurance had lower premiums and lower deductibles than the ACA.

  • brewmaster

    You can buy a Ford Fusion with 20% of parts made in the US or you can get a Honda Accord with 80% US made parts. You decide which one is more American.

  • sorryhog

    Don’t believe Ford, they will shut the plant down, just like they did Lorain!
    Lorain was their best production and quality plant.

    • Larry Crnobrnja

      Just about every assembly plant brags they produce the best quality and at the best cost.

    • Zen Grouch

      That “best production and quality” morale building bull hockey went to the union member’s heads.

      Then when asked to learn more than one job, they actually believed they were too good to be told what to do.

      When I worked at the Lorain plant during the summer breaks from school, I paid my union dues, but wasn’t a part of the union, so everyone was happy.

      I would preform new 2 jobs each shift.

      My first job would be in the morning just before the line started and there was a blank space there where a union member should have been. They’d take 2 or 3 minutes to show me how to do the job. Simple enough.

      Then after the lunch break, they’d plug me into a job where the union member came back from from his break way too drunk to do his job safely. BAM! Another job learned in 3 minutes…

      I loved doing something different all the time, but some of the union guys who were half drunk and almost crying would tell me that once I join the union there’s no way I’ll have to take that abuse.

      That’s the mentality that shut down the Lorain plant.

      • Bill

        In the 90′s I was hired on there as temporary part time (tpt) along with a boat load of others. We were to only work Friday’s and Monday’s. Now a lot of people would wonder why only those days. Simple, those were the days all the drunks called off or came back from lunch from the bar across the street to drunk to work.

      • formerlorainresident

        Hey Zen,

        Ford workers weren’t the only ones working drunk. At least they were’t being paid by the taxpayers and carrying a gun.

        Sound familiar?

        Such a hypocrite. Care to explain to others here what I am referring to?

        Have a nice day!

        • Zen Grouch

          You write about being drunk like it’s a bad thing…

          …yet when the Sun goes down, there you are, drunk at the keyboard making a fool out of your lonely self.

          -sniff-

          **Whose the big bad hypocrite?**

  • formerlorainresident

    Up next, the Avon Lake City Schools asking for more money!

  • GreatRedeemer

    When Ford said two years they would retool for $128 million
    the number floated was around a 100 jobs lost, nobody knew. Let’s see if once
    that is complete if the 800 jobs come back.

    Also state incentives to Ford will pay out over a 15
    years and require the company to keep the plant open for 18 years or repay the
    tax breaks. I don’t recall any head count promises.

  • formerlorainresident

    Buying an American made vehicle no longer means buying from the “Big 3.” In 2013, five of the top 10 vehicles containing the largest % of domestic parts either a Toyota or Honda. Only the F-150 makes this list for Ford.

    Just this month, Fiat bought the remaining shares in Chrysler. They are now owned entire by a foreign corporation. The UAW sold their 41% ownership to Fiat to complete the deal. Yes, the United Auto Workers union. Makes it difficult to feel sympathetic to the auto worker, when it was their own organization which sold out to a foreign interest.

    Thank you American taxpayers for bailing out Chrysler. Making it financially stable and viable once again, so Fiat could come in and take it away. Wasn’t this bailout intended to save the American auto industry?

    So now I am suppose to feel guilty because I drive BMW’s. If I owned a Jeep, would I also be criticized for buying a foreign car? Logic tells me this would be the case.

    When it benefits the unions and the workers, foreign ownership is acceptable; but when someone buys what is perceived as a foreign car, they are criticized.

    Auto workers, and your beloved union cannot have it both ways.

    • Zen Grouch

      **So now I am suppose to feel guilty because I drive BMW’s.**

      I KNEW it!

      Never met anyone who owned a BMW (other than the motorcycles) who wasn’t a total jerk!

      • Michael A. Figueroa

        The ‘total jerk” seems to be the guy that spends every waking day on this site, reading every single article, and looking for ways to demean and insult people who comment on these articles.

        • Zen Grouch

          I agree with ya’…

          …but what’s that got to do with me, Chuckles?

      • formerlorainresident

        Do detect a little “class envy?”

        I drive BMW’s, because of the four I have owned I have never had a repair, ever! Nothing. In fact they picked my wife’s up at the house today, left me a brand new loaner, to do the scheduled service.

        In fact, I also purchase Fords, since my father is a retiree from FMC. I also just purchased a new Lincoln MKZ last week. Guess what, it was back at the dealership the very next day. It was assembled improperly, missing a front passenger seat belt.

        I bought a Focus for my son 4 months ago as a college graduation gift, has been in for repairs twice already.

        If demanding quality and having the means to afford it makes me a jerk, then so be it.

        I realize in your socialist world it is unfair that some drive nicer vehicles than others. I suppose in addition to redistribution of wealth, we should also redistribute vehicles.

        I would be willing to bet if someone offered you a new 6 Series for whatever you are driving, an even trade, you would accept it. If not, you are the jerk.

        • Zen Grouch

          **Do detect a little “class envy?”**

          I can’t imagine anyone who has a highly tuned sense, to “detect” “class envy” (accurate or not) who isn’t a total jerk.

          Anyway, I’ve got nothing scientific to back up my opinion that owners of BMW’s are total jerks, other than everyday observations of how they drive as though they think they’re better than everyone else on the road and are therefore entitled to drive like a… YOU GUESSED IT!

          I guess us peons just get in the way and tick ‘em off.

          So, Daddy Warbucks… what are you doin’ here?
          …slummin’ or just showing off?

          • formerlorainresident

            Zen – Chill out!!!

            Stereotype all you want, shallow one. It really does not take a” highly tuned sense, to “detect” “class envy,” as you put it. Your words and anger makes it so obvious.

            You might find out that looking at things and laughing
            instead of accumulating anger makes world a happier place for you to live in.

            What do you want next, an apology from me for enjoying a comfortable lifestyle? For providing a
            standard of living for my children I never enjoyed? For driving a brand of car, which I think are
            simply the best in every way? One that
            is fast, comfortable, safe and beautiful.
            Maybe you should have studied harder in school so you could afford one for yourself.

            You are clearly a person who hates others solely because they have more than you, all the way down to something as minor as what type of car
            they drive. This is usually a position practiced by people who have not taken personal responsibility for their own life style and status and want others to
            share in their misery.

            You fit the classic definition of a jealous person, angrily projecting your own inadequacies outward in attitudes, which are less tolerant
            of those people of whom you are the most jealous. You have taken a simple article about a car
            factory and used it as a forum to attack others you perceive as having a better
            life than yourself.

            I do find your Daddy Warbucks analogy comical. Being an orphan, he was a self-made man, working
            from the age of 8yo,. including seven nights a week in a steel mill to pay his college debts. Though reduced to poverty, he amassed great wealth through hard work and personal
            responsibility. He was also a
            philanthropist, giving huge sums to charity.

            Maybe he was a lot like me after all. I take your comparison as a compliment, thank you.

            Back to cars. What do you drive, a Chevy Aveo, stacked with 5 adults, that chugs along at 45 mph in
            the high speed lane, then gets upset because someone driving a sports car, the way they were meant to be driven, is coming up on your tail?

            So if it not jealousy and envy, then what is it that makes you so angry? How can something as simple as a car brand incite you to lash out at someone? Why are you so judgmental?

            The real jerks here are the ones who use this forum to spout their Marxist propaganda and can always turn any subject into an opportunity to do so.

          • Zen Grouch

            Dang!

            That fuse done lit itself!

          • Zen Grouch

            Could you give me the specifics my little hit ‘n run friend, since I didn’t bother to read the post?

            I figure why bother with some idiot who lumps BMW’s in with ALL high end motorcars…

            **I love it when snobs call their cars “motorcars”**

  • therest_ofthestory

    Nothing like bad news to bring out the jealous people! Has anyone thought about the ramifications on the county if this would happen?!

  • Didi Pizaza

    I remember when the big announcement was made about the Avon Lake Plant was going to remain open and the explansion..now this?? What next??? Closure??? Wouldn’t surprise me, none…..Where are the County Commissoner’s at on this..I suppose someone is still mad over Facebook!!!

    • Bill

      From Commissioner Tom Williams Facebook page.

      I spoke with the Governor’s office this evening in regards to the Avon Lake Ford layoffs. Here’s what they shared with me.
      In 2011, the Governor’s office met with Ford regarding the future of Avon Lake’s facility. An agreement was made to invest $75 Million into the facility and to maintain employment of at least 1,400 employees.
      There would be temporary layoffs while the facility goes through renovations.
      They also shared that the Governor along with Jobs Ohio met with Ford executives at the auto show and the agreement is still in place.

    • stillsleepyeyes

      The two K’s are still waiting for the puppet master to pull there strings…………..they don’t dare make a move until the almighty gardwennie has spoken…………….its that……..or get kicked out like stewart did…………….