August 21, 2014

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Little League board member let go after comments

Chris Sito

Chris Sito

ELYRIA — A member of the Elyria Little League East board no longer is in a leadership role after publicly questioning district support of a gay and straight alliance club at Elyria High School.

Elyria resident and parent Chris Sito said he would vote against the upcoming Elyria Schools renewal levy if the after-school student club remained. He contends the district should not allow a “sex club” at the high school.

He made the comments Saturday in a Chronicle-Telegram story.

“Chris Sito is no longer a member of the Elyria Little League Board,” said Kevin Brubaker, who resigned as president of the nonprofit sports organization on Monday.

Brubaker did not comment further.

A petition on ipetition.org was posted Sunday calling for Sito to be reprimanded or removed from the Little League board. Sito was in charge of fundraising and formerly worked with the girls’ softball division.

Petition drivers had hoped to garner at least 1,000 supporters. Sarah Boesger, 33, of Elyria started the effort.

The 1998 graduate of Elyria High School and mother of a toddler said she started the petition because it enraged her to know a person in the community wanted to link the club, known as Allies, with the renewal levy. Failure of Issue 2 could result in a significant loss of revenue for the district, as it accounts for $12 million in annual revenue.

“He has expressed views that are against what Little League is all about,” Boesger said. “This is not about the organization. Little League is a very inclusive organization and Mr. Sito has overstepped his boundaries in a lot of ways.”

The inclusive of a gay and straight alliance at a school should not been seen as a negative thing, said Greg Donnellan, a board member for the Gay, Lesbian Straight Education Network of Northeast Ohio.

“I like to compare it to a sports club,” he said. “People join a sport because they want to know more about the sport and support the other players. Students join a GSA for the same reasons. Just like a winning sports club, a successful GSA can positively impact a school community.”

Principal Tom Jama and Superintendent Paul Rigda have said students have a right to attend the club and it is helping to encourage acceptance and tolerance in the school.

“The district should be praised because it is standing up for students, especially in this climate of school funding struggles,” Donnellan said. “Losing votes is the last thing any school district would need.”

Donnellan, 29, a middle and high school teacher in the Cleveland area, said he has seen similar groups at other Northeast Ohio schools falter under pressure, leaving students to wonder if they truly are accepted.

“Every school is different, but there are just a handful of strong GSAs in our area,” he said. “There is always a misconception on why the group needs to be formed, with some people not understanding why the club is needed at all.”

Contact Lisa Roberson at 329-7121 or lroberson@chroniclet.com. Follow her on Twitter @LisaRobersonCT.

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  • Jamie Smith

    Mr.Sito….SHAME ON YOU !! Talk about a BULLY. What are you teaching your own Children ? I am Embarrassed for them……….

    • Michael

      just what the Bible says. Evidently you don’t have one.

      • Becky

        Does the bible condone hate? Lets both read it more.

        • Chris Sito

          Who hates?

      • Mike Stein

        The Bible is against school levies?

        • stop ur whining part deux

          hahaha. bazinga.

      • Jared Donnelly

        how about instead of using a fairy tale to guide their life, people like this guy just be decent, accepting, and loving people. i dont need a book to tell me how to treat people.

        • Scott

          Agreed, lets get out of the 1800′s and into this century. If this is a place where kids can be accepted and feel they belong, its a great thing. When kids are bullied, bad things happen.

        • Soon2bMrsB

          Very well said! I for one am happy this hateful man has been removed from his duties on the little league board. I would not want that man teaching hate to my children or anyone else’s.

      • Sarah Boesger

        Neither Elyria City Schools nor Little League are religious institutions. The Bible is not relevant in those situations.

        • William

          Just so you know to some people the Bible is relevant in everything. Just saying.

          • The Thinker

            Just so you know, to some people, the Bible is not relevant at all. Just saying.

          • melissa

            Awesome!!! Another one that has contributed to the downfall of a great country. Dare I ask…how old are you? Im guessing your user name doesnt suit the individual.

          • The Thinker

            Yeah pretty sure I’ve read something about the freedom of religion in that pesky first amendment. I’m 40. I pay taxes, have job, own a house, and graduated from college (with a minor in theology just FYI). So I’m not really seeing the connection you’re trying to make in regards to my role in “the downfall of a great country”.

          • melissa

            So just like any other person i guess..but you havent paid attention then. If you cant see how the removal of Christianity has been detrimental to our nation then explaining it would be a waste of energy. You dont want to see it. Pretty sad.

          • The Thinker

            I would disagree with you. I believe I have definitely paid attention. But we are getting into entirely off topic conversation if we continue down this road. I was simply pointing out that that the even though there are a number of people who believe “the Bible is relevant in everything” there are at least an equal number who believe the Bible is not relevant at all.

          • Eanfrith

            I find your belief that to be a great nation, Christianity must be involved, that RELIGION must be involved, when the reason the settlers came here, was for religious freedom. This great country was founded and established with various beliefs, one of which was that the country should be run autonomously from religion, you know, a “Seperation of Church and State” if you will. Funny how people like to only follow SOME things, and not it’s entirety. Most fabrics are mixed, which clearly violates the bible. Now, should we stone them for this infraction? No, we shouldn’t. “Being gay” goes against the bible, however, there are two things I must offer, the first being that God created us in his image, everyone, no exclusions. Second, he also said to love thy neighbor. That’s it, doesn’t say love your white straight neighbor, just your neighbor. Food for thought.

        • melissa

          which would explain why countless school systems are a damn mess.

    • Eric M

      I am embarrassed for you Jamie Smith. Who are you to question what he has taught his Children ?

  • Sarah Boesger

    Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!

    • Larry Crnobrnja

      “He has expressed views that are against what Little League is all about,” Boesger said.

      What did he say?

      • Sarah Boesger

        Those representing themselves as Little League members or Little League
        leaders in any capacity must refrain from any communication, whether
        written or spoken, that tends to degrade or demean any person or group.
        Violation of this policy, in the opinion of the Little League
        International Charter Committee in South Williamsport, PA, will be
        considered not in the best interest of Little League Baseball and
        Softball, and may result in action by the Committee up to and including
        removal of the person from such capacity and/or revocation of the local
        Little League’s charter.

        • Larry Crnobrnja

          Actually that passage is in regards to COMMUNICATIONS WHILE ACTING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OR LEADER AT ANY LEVEL OF LITTLE LEAGUE.

          So I’m wondering, were you just being disingenuous or dishonest? What kind of example are you for your child?

          • The Thinker

            Larry, Larry, Larry… people who live in glass houses don’t throw stones. Do you have kids?

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Are you suggesting I was dishonest or disingenuous with any or all of my comments? Please explain or are you just attempting to divert by attacking me?

          • The Thinker

            I am suggesting that Sarah was neither disingenuous or dishonest and her quote of the Little League policies was accurate despite your attempt to illustrate otherwise.

            Do you have kids? Just wondering…

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            “…her quote of the Little League Policies was accurate despite your attempt to illustrate otherwise.”

            Are you friggin’ kidding me? I posted a screenshot of the policy and it clearly states “COMMUNICATION WHILE ACTING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OR LEADER…”

            How in the world can any rational person come to the same conclusion you just did?

          • The Thinker

            Is it your position that because Mr. Sito wasn’t at a Little League function when he made his comments he wasn’t acting as a representative or leader and as such the policy doesn’t apply?

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            I’m suggesting that unless someone can show he was acting as a representative or leader of Little League when he made his statement, then he wasn’t.

            Pretty darn simple.

          • melissa

            Just curious Larry…do you have a sister named Lori?

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Yep.

          • melissa

            I know her pretty well. Met you a while back. Im Kelli’s friend too.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Kelli K?

          • melissa

            No…Amherst Kelli. I dont know the other. We saw Randy out on St. Patty’s Day.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Happy Birthday to Randy!

          • Chris Sito

            Thank you for pointing out the truth.

    • Becky

      I shutter at the thought of a gay child having to deal with the wrath and closed mindedness of that man. Thank you is right!

  • Roy Benevidez

    Not surprising. He was an a$$hole at Elyria Catholic and has been his entire adult life. ZRemember, in his mind, it’s all about “the children”.

  • Carolyn Ingold

    He expressed views “that are against what little league is all about”. He stated a view on renewing a school levy based on his beliefs. Whether his beliefs are right or wrong in your eyes, doesn’t he have the freedom to say it? I know the first amendment only applies to governmental action against free speech. But where does this lead?

    • Larry Crnobrnja

      The message is, “intolerance is unacceptable unless you’re a progressive.”

      • Becky

        Calm down. They are also entitled to an opinion. Not just you and Sito. Have a great day!

      • The Thinker

        The message is, “intolerance is unacceptable when you work with children.”

        • Larry Crnobrnja

          As adults, it is our DUTY to be intolerant with our children as needed.

          • The Thinker

            No sir. It is MY duty to be intolerant with MY children when I demy such intolerance necessary. It is YOUR option to be intolerant with YOUR children when you demy such intolerance necessary. A third parties intolerance in the scope of a volunteer to a recreational league is not even close to the same thing.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            demy?

            You can’t seem to accept that he was speaking as a citizen. And I thought all you “progressives” believed it takes a village to raise a child? LMAO

          • wowwhatnow

            Deem Larry! Even I could figure that out!

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Uh, no. He(or she) meant deem.

          • wowwhatnow

            Yes Larry I corrected myself…but regardless The Thinker is correct. I can admit when I am wrong… how about yourself?

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            I will happily admit it if it ever happens.

          • wowwhatnow

            Larry are you my ex husband?

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Of course not, I would never have made that mistake. Weren’t you paying attention?

          • wowwhatnow

            Ouch! LOL

          • The Thinker

            Apologies. Please insert “deem” for all “demy”.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Maybe they should call it auto-incorrect? LOL

            Happens to all of us, no harm – no foul.

          • The Thinker

            It took a bit of dialog but I think we have found one thing we agree on.

          • Jimmy Long

            come out of the closet already larry, its ok

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            I’m straight. Go troll for friends somewhere else, you sicko.

      • sameolbull

        Larry, you always were a smug Ahole. Some things never change.

    • Eric M

      I agree, he voiced his opinion and instead of trying to gain support from him we felt it proper to run him out on a rail. Great job setting an example for the Allies Club, voice your opinion and out you go ? Good Job !!
      Sarah used the bomb threat post to put a link to her agenda and Jamie gets to post about the Man’s kids.
      I am sure one of the parents that drops off their kids at a Little League park this year like it is a day care center will step up to help run the organization.

      • William

        Eric remember your only allowed to see things their way. If your views are different your wrong. They probably consider you a racist and a thug just for saying what you did. I really don’t care about the club as long as they don’t push an agenda on other students. But I’ve had about enough of this we need money money money from the school board. Its about time to right size the budget to the current economic conditions.

        • B4CE

          I don’t remember any of you CONservatives complaining about the Dixie chicks being publicly shamed or Jay Mohr or bill Moher being run off tv.
          I guess it’s only discrimination when it’s your side that faces public backlash

          • golfingirl

            It is Jay Cox Mohr, remember, he took the surname of his wife.

            “bill Moher is spelled Bill Maher.

          • William

            What the heck are you talking about B4CE. I’m merely stating that everybody has a right to their own opinion no matter what side of the issue you are on. It’s when people start calling folks names and such just because they spoke up and they don’t agree with them. Unless your a politician where you have to welcome criticism for your decisions then who cares what they say. Some people need to be reminded about the sticks and stones. Good grief.

          • B4CE

            Yes, everyone, including the people that oppose your view points are entitled to their opinions . That’s why we have free speech.. To allow you to say what ever you believe. Freedom of speech protects you from being imprisoned for your thoughts and speech, not from facing opposing view points and blowback

          • golfingirl

            It is Jay Ferguson Cox Mohr, remember, he took the surname of his wife.

            “bill Mohe is spelled Bill Maher

          • B4CE

            Thank you for your observations. You will note the correction.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            I didn’t see anything in the article about the Dixie Chicks. Do they play Little League?

          • B4CE

            You’re a self professed smart guy, surely you can put two and two together and see my point. All the teeth gnashing about how conservative view points are not protected by freedom of speech. I illustrated a few cases of liberals facing public backlash over an unpopular statements.
            But I know that you knew what I was getting at. It’s got to be boring sitting at home all by yourself in front of the computer trying to be clever.

            Thanks for your comment.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            1) I’m not sure the topics are mutually inclusive.
            2) How do you know conservative posters on this board didn’t speak up for the Chicks, Maher and Mohr?
            3) I’m not familiar with a Mohr controversy.

          • B4CE

            The great and prolific Larry the Commentator has given his opinion that my choice of getting my point across is not to his satisfaction. Thank you for your interest in my writing ability.
            As for your questions, this board was not in existance 10-14 years ago when the instances I referenced happened. So your question is mute. But I’m pretty sure there was not a single conservative alive that supported the Dixie Chicks right to say what they said without facing retribution.
            You can google “conservatives call for boycott of Bill Maher” and you’ll get a new outrage each week. But I’m sure you knew that also.
            As far as a more recent issue that I posted earlier, the call to boycott girls out cookies. I don’t recall any conservatives on this board calling advocating for them.
            Sometimes petitions and boycotts work for you, sometimes they work against you. Were there ever so many white people eating fried chicken than the day the LGBT called for the boycott of Chick filla?

          • HankKwah

            Actually, it’s not “mute”, it’s moot.

          • B4CE

            Hank, for pointing out what has already been pointed out. You figure that out all by your self our you use Larry the Commentators post to figure it out?

          • HankKwah

            Wow, you really get butthurt when you screw up, don’t you? If you had an ounce of intelligence, you’d proof your rants before you posted them.

            I know, that’s a lot to ask, but if you expect us to read them, the least you can do is do it right. Take your post above, for example. The first line isn’t even a sentence. The second has so many goofs I won’t even start.

            Not writing at all is too much to expect, but we know how you are.

          • B4CE

            Naw, I know your just a lonely little man that depends on the internet to boost your fragile self esteem. It doesn’t bother me. I pretty much forget about you until I get an alert notifying me of your continued interest in engaging a lesser individual than your self.
            I may not have an ounce of intelligence, but I have the same one vote as you do to determine our Country’s future. Chew on that! . —-’Murica heck yeah!

          • HankKwah

            LMAO

            All you stupid libs fall back on the same attacks. No imagination, no intelligence, and absolutely no creativity.

            I’ve gone for quite a while not leaving comments because there’s nothing worthy of one, but when you, the Great Corrector, slip into your own trap, I think it’s only fitting to bang on the cage a little bit.

            Obviously, it DOES bother you, otherwise you wouldn’t be ranting over a minor correction. So, go be excited over your one vote, and I promise to cancel out your vote with mine every opportunity I get.

          • B4CE

            I missed my ranting. We must have very different ideas of ranting.
            You can cancel my vote, but I have four children being brought up on the tax payers dime. I assure you they won’t forget where they came from. I have no doubt they will be voting Democrat when they are of age also. In fact, the oldest dreams of being a school teacher so he can indoctrinate others.

          • HankKwah

            I believe the “children being brought up on the tax payers dime” thing. You seem that type.

            And I’m sure your children will milk the system just as you do. As our country slowly spirals down the toilet, thanks to the offspring of b4ce.

          • B4CE

            I’d have more kids, but they really put a damper on life. Who knows though, birth control is expensive, I might have one or two more surprises?
            Anyway, it’s a numbers game. Your party really doesn’t have much to offer anyone but old white folks, and the funny thing about them is they don’t replenish as fast as they used to.
            In the mean time, imma ride this train!

          • HankKwah

            I’d have more kids, but they really put a damper on life.

            Then you’re obviously doing it wrong. Judging from your posting history, it’s pretty obvious there’s not a lot you’ve done right.

            Birth control can’t be too expensive, the rest of us responsible people are footing the bill for welfare abusers like you. Suit up!!

            Spoken like a true lib. When you have a choice between sucking the teat of the public, or working an honest job, y’all take the teat every time. The only thing the rest of us can hope for is that more people choose abortion when there’s the chance of folks like you being born.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            1) Moot or mute or both?
            2) What was your point?
            3) Maher is still on TV?
            4) Still don’t understand the Mohr comment.
            5) I saw lots of whites AND blacks AND hispanics eating at Chick-fil-A during that brouhaha.
            6) I’m also unfamiliar with the cookie caper.
            7) The topics still aren’t mutually inclusive.

          • B4CE

            I can envision the great and prolific “Larry the Commentator Guy” sitting back in his castle with a self righteous smirk.
            For someone that posts every day on every conceivable story you sure seem to be in the dark on a lot of subjects that don’t support your agenda .
            Mute would be a pleasant change for you.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Your vision is poor. But thank you for being envious.

          • B4CE

            Would have responded earlier , but you know , or maybe you don’t , but real life got in the way.- I’m not envious of your need to point out others grammatical mistakes on a daily basis. – I’m very happy with my life

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            For Heaven’s sake, aren’t you a bit old to be such a big crybaby?

        • wowwhatnow

          Push their agenda…what would that agenda detail?

      • Mike Stein

        So you agree with him and want to help sabotage the school levy?

        • Eric M

          Sabotage? He said it was something he was not for and he would vote his opinion. Better look around because this whole country operates that way.

          • Mike Stein

            Of course he said much more than that.

      • The Thinker

        He was removed from a volunteer position that put him in direct contact with children. As a parent that has a child that is involved in LL I’m glad to see him gone from the organization.

        • Chris Sito

          The same guy that was in charge for the last 20 years. Nothing changed. No one was complaining while I had the same opinion for the first 20 years. Obviously, my behavior at the fields was never an issue before. What changed?

      • topofthemorningeverybody

        yea whoever runs the ‘comments’ here on this blog,as in,who allows them to be posted or not,they kept my opinion off the story,yesterday.they didn’t even give it a chance&posted my opinion.it said nothing mean,prejudice,threats or anything that would give a good enough reason for a media blog to not post. so i must have offend the first reader,which was the person who runs this blog. must be nice to have such control just cause someone can’t be open minded to just hear out another’s opinion&i’m assuming they’re in Journalism,if you can’t be open minded then that job isn’t for them. this is another example the Allies Club should be prepared with..everybody is not going to agree with you,don’t be a poor sport&kick them out or judge them,also.

        • Sis Delish

          My Club agrees with you. My Club has attempted to post which it Believes is Pertinent to this Story twice this morning. After a period of “moderation”, My Club’s postings were not allowed. My Club’s opinion on the editorial behavior of the C-T has now changed.

          • topofthemorningeverybody

            yea CT is showing a fine job on how to be mature&be open minded with other opinions. i’m wondering if this sarah knows someone we don’t…

          • Sis Delish

            My Club has an Opinion. My Club believes home delivery readership of the C-T has declined in direct correlation to its editorial slant. That’s My Club’s Opinion.

          • Sarah Boesger

            Nope.

          • topofthemorningeverybody

            i do..see how easy that is without any proof or facts around.

        • B4CE

          Maybe your computer is just messed up… Or NSA is spying on you

          • topofthemorningeverybody

            lol well i hope they enjoy spying on me cause not much i do to entertain anybody&no my computer isn’t messing up but sounds like your thoughts are…

          • B4CE

            I’m honored, two replies to my comments over your Whiny complaints about a private company censoring your posts. Funny

          • topofthemorningeverybody

            you are so welcome :) you are just that damn special to me lol&whiny? so now voicing my opinion is causing me a ‘label’..go ahead show the world you fit in. you are a stranger to me&guess what?? i truly don’t give a rat’s a$$ what you label me. your label from me is a$$hole. now we’re even ;)

          • B4CE

            Hmmm, if your latest post is indicative of the posts you are complaining about being removed, maybe I can help you to understand why they were not being posted. Calling people names and cursing are generally frowned upon in civilized society. If you want your opinion shared, it’s best to refrain from those types of actions.

            One other note of worth, I called your post whiny, not you.

          • topofthemorningeverybody

            all i can say is you should not judge the unknown. none of the comment that i wrote,that i have been
            /was complaining about,that wasn’t posted,had NO name calling,cursing or anything negative.as a matter of fact,since you are the only one that seems concerned about my whiny comments(sorry my bad,i can admit that,thank you) then post your email&i’ll send you the response i sent&wasn’t posted&then you can make your judgement on what my opinion was/is on the subject. furthermore, yes it is frowned on upon in civilized society with people on what is appropriate and what isn’t with ANYTHING said or done..that’s one reason why we are even communicating back&forth,on a controversial subject/article.my choice of what comes out of my mouth&what doesn’t.God gave me those choices.i think for myself.if any consequence comes out,it’s on me,not you. it’s called an opinion when you tell me it’s inappropriate..not all society takes words personal. it doesn’t mean it’s right or wrong,it’s just how one feels they are right.

          • B4CE

            I’ll consider your post as “lesson not learned”.

            Just because you put “dollar signs” in place of “s’s” doesn’t negate the meaning of the word “@s$hole” .
            And it may be ok with your god for you to lash out, but evidently it’s not ok with the moderators here at the Chronicle. Unfortunately for you, it’s their website, & they have the last say. My opinion on what’s appropriate doesn’t matter here, theirs does.
            One last thing, words have meanings. That is indisputable. If they don’t have meaning and are not meant to be taken personally, why use them?

          • topofthemorningeverybody

            lesson ? what? keeping my opinions to myself,is the only lesson,i see,out of a moderator reaction of not posting it. in the long,i’m the type who can care less if ‘ i was heard’,the opinion left my mind&i thought i was moving on lol i just whine about it cause it was ironic,my sincere comment wasn’t posted but i read a bunch of crap,that was uncall for..i guess negativity sells&gets people interested in the product. so i was being a smartass not trying to whine about it. but you assumed it so i wasn’t going to argue.i speak it now. so none of their reaction or this conversation hasn’t took my breath away or yours, so time to move on. i just thought it was funny on what sells and what doesn’t..i forgot,being sincere,(referring to the 1 not posted)is so abnormal in this world lol

          • topofthemorningeverybody

            pretty much what i’m saying,out of do respect,don’t be hypercritical with me&JUDGE me by ASSUMING why my post wasn’t posted and then turn around and tell me i am wrong for saying this and that..you’re as wrong as i was for the cursing you didn’t like..

          • B4CE

            I didn’t assume anything. I gave you a possibility, judging from your response to me, on why your previous posts may not have been posted. Then offered a suggestion on how to be more successful in geting your thoughts posted. I assumed nothing.
            There was nothing respectful about your post. Changing an”S” to a dollar sign to get around censors doesn’t change the meaning of the words. Words have meanings, why use them if they don’t ?.
            It may be alright with your god to lash out at commentators, but evidently it’s not ok with the moderators of this board. It’s their opinion that counts, not mine or your god’s.m

          • topofthemorningeverybody

            besides the fact nsa would have realized i made no physical threats or talk about hiding drugs,in body parts etc etc so i hope they are documenting me so they can have proof for me to show people like you…get your thoughts straight or go get help.

      • Chris Sito

        The LL is in great need of help. None of those that signed the petition have stepped up to do the work that was done by me or Kevin Brubaker. But, many have asked for special help for their kids.

    • B4CE

      Yes, he has the freedom to say what ever is on his mind. Freedom of speech protects him from imprisonment, not from public backlash.

      Both the conservative and liberal sides use public shaming, petitions and boycotts to get their message across. Heck the religious conservatives called for the boycott of girls out cookies this year ( from what I read this will be a record breaking year for the sales) liberals boycotted the chickfilla ( white people never ate so much fried chicken!)
      Sometimes public backlash accomplishes the mission, sometimes it backfires.
      But don’t act like 1) this eliminates free speech, or 2) the opposing view point doesn’t also have the same right of free speech or 3) that this is only happens against conservatives. ( google conservative boycott & see how outraged they are about almost everything)

    • Barbara Radke

      He is free to express his thought and ideas, and I stand behind him for that. However when it comes with an attempt to jeopardize the lives of children and their education by suggesting that people vote against the levy, that took it to a different level.

  • Michael

    the new San Francisco…

    • Mark B

      San Fran Sissy Co

    • johns62

      really? here’s a nickle, buy a clue

  • Peter Aldrich

    Evidentally, free speech and free thought are no longer welcome in the USA……

    • S.A.

      Only if it is in agreement with “their” opinions and beliefs, remember?

    • B4CE

      Free speech keeps you from being imprisoned, not from facing public backlash

    • topofthemorningeverybody

      after noticing that the person who runs this blog,didn’t post my speech&thoughts,yesterday,on the story,i have already had that thought&it no longer stands with us humans.i said nothing prejudice,mean,non compassionate, etc..the only thing my comment did was offend the first person that read it,the person who runs this blog.

  • Sis Delish

    My Club has an opinion. My Club, after careful consideration of the facts, suggests that Sarah Boesger be recognized as a Citiizen who single-handedly increased unemployment in Elyria. That’s My Club’s Opinion.

    • The Thinker

      How exactly has she “increased unemployment in Elyria”?

    • B4CE

      One person dressing up in a tri cornered tin foil hat doesn’t constitute a club

    • Sarah Boesger

      I was unaware that being a volunteer on a board of a non-profit organization was considered employment. And I was also unaware that people who break the rules of said non-profit organization should remain on the board. Thank you for enlightening me!

      • The Thinker

        Sarah I want to thank you for your efforts and starting the petition.

        • Sarah Boesger

          Thank you to Elyria for not allowing this to get swept under the rug!

        • Lou

          Agreed!

      • Eric M

        So what rule did he break?

        • Sarah Boesger

          Those representing themselves as Little League members or Little League
          leaders in any capacity must refrain from any communication, whether
          written or spoken, that tends to degrade or demean any person or group.
          Violation of this policy, in the opinion of the Little League
          International Charter Committee in South Williamsport, PA, will be
          considered not in the best interest of Little League Baseball and
          Softball, and may result in action by the Committee up to and including
          removal of the person from such capacity and/or revocation of the local
          Little League’s charter.

          • Phil Seguin

            I don’t recall him ever representing himself as speaking for or on behalf of Little League. Lisa Roberson did that with her malicious journalism.

          • CalamariHari

            Malicious journalism? Huh? Examples?

          • Phil Seguin

            What did Little League East have to do with this? I wish Lisa Roberson had the courage to explain to us why it was ever mentioned in her article. Are you,Sarah and Amy going to volunteer to take care of their fields this year?

          • CalamariHari

            Again, Phil, I’m not being a jerk here. I really am trying to understand how Ms. Roberson was malicious or lacked courage in her reporting. I keep looking back at the articles, and I am lost on this.

          • Phil Seguin

            If you can’t see it I probably won’t be able to explain it to you but it sure seems to me that the people who preach tolerance are the most intolerant. Maybe you can explain to me why Little League East was ever mentioned in the article. Its kind of sad – in the words of Rodney King “can’t we all just get along?”.

          • CalamariHari

            You can’t explain it, because there isn’t any!!!

          • Phil Seguin

            So then please explain why LLE was mentioned to begin with. While you are at it explain what exactly bullying is and then tell me how it doesn’t apply to what happened to Mr. Sito. Thanks.

          • Phil Seguin

            Bullying is unwanted, aggressive behavior among school aged children that involves a real or perceived power imbalance. The behavior is repeated, or has the potential to be repeated, over time. Bullying includes actions such as making threats, spreading rumors, attacking someone physically or verbally, and excluding someone from a group on purpose – that is from http://www.stopbullying.gov/what-is-bullying/

          • CalamariHari

            Thank you for that lesson, Phil. I know full well what it is liked to be bullied. But I appreciate the definition…I’ll tuck that away for future reference. I suggest you pass this onto the other bullies on this thread..you know who they are…

          • Phil Seguin

            Agree – nobody should be bullied. At EHS or on this thread.

          • CalamariHari

            Thanks, Phil! Best to you!

          • Phil Seguin

            You too.

          • CalamariHari

            Okay, man, I really don’t know what you are talking about…whew…

          • Chris Sito

            Only you are blind to it. You can open your eyes with a call. If, you truly seek the truth.

          • CalamariHari

            Okay – Phil. Still not seeing Ms. Roberson as being malicious. She was reporting. Just because it wasn’t mentioned doesn’t mean that it was an intentional oversight. Yeesh…never mind….you still haven’t given any concrete evidence of malice in her reporting. I’m done.

          • Chris Sito

            You can’t see it because you don’t want to see it. Now that this whole thing is over, it is easy to see what the Lisa, and the Chronicle did.

          • CalamariHari

            Again, your reply contains no concrete examples after I have asked Phil multiple times (hint: uh, that’s because there aren’t any), Chris. However, no matter what the outcome would be from this whole situation, you would continue to spread your message of hate anyways. Sadly, that is your choice and you will most likely never change That. The God I worship is about love and peace. And forgiveness. I pray for you.

          • Chris Sito

            Hate? Where? There is no hate. You, just like the news reporter, choose to write and say what you want regardless of the truth. Call 725-5775 for the truth. I doubt you will. You can’t handle the truth. Nor, can the other faceless names on these boards.

          • CalamariHari

            Hi, Chris. First, I am an honored that you have responded to me directly for some reason. Secondly, I have to respond to your allegation that I “like the news reporter.” I don’t know her, this is the first series of stories I have read by her. If she seemed slanted to you, I simply asked “how?”. I haven’t chosen not to see it – simply I am trying to understand. That is all. Now, to respond to your offer to have a chat via phone. Very brave of you, but let me make a suggestion that may be much more impactful than a conversation with little old me (and safer for me, as I’m sure you wouldn’t be above recording the conversation or twisting it – similarly to how we Christians seem to twist the Bible’s teachings to suit our own agendas). Anyhow, hold a public forum somewhere (preferably not at church so as to help galvanize your credibility on your position as much as possible). Share your side of the story objectively and unemotionally. Be open to feedback. Just a thought. I choose not to throw pearls to swines – take that passage however you wish. Again, prayers to you.

          • CalamariHari

            And, let me add one more thought: You started this. You own it…God bless you.

          • Chris Sito

            NO. These people ran two of us out of LL that spend countless hours helping kids through LL. And, none of these people have stepped up. And, a couple of them actually asked for special service from LL.

          • Chris Sito

            Thank you Phil. I never was asked any question about where I worked or what groups I was associated with. Lisa added ESO and LL on her own. We spend 45 minutes on the phone. She did not even come close to writing what/why I opposed the group.formation. And, I am involved with about a dozen organizations and groups. They put ESO and LL in the article to start trouble. And the mob ran with it.

          • golfingirl

            “Violation of this policy, in the opinion of the Little League International Charter Committee in South Williamsport, PA, ….”

            Hope they conferred with the Little League office in Williamsport, otherwise this is heading to the courts.

          • Vision

            ..

          • Eric M

            So Sarah what exactly did Sito say? I have seen what the paper says but so far nothing quoted from him.

          • Vision

            Try…

      • Sis Delish

        The President of the LL East resigned. That’s a Paid Position. You are as charged, a Citizen who single-handedly increased unemployment in Elyria, a Renewed Opinion.

        Now, My Club wants to know what Petition you are going to pen related to Ron Nabakowski’s decision not to fire a Child Molester who works for the County Clerks office?

    • wowwhatnow

      What???? It is a volunteer position… the man did not lose his job but lost a position on the LL Counsel.

  • ched

    AMEN….About time someone put Sito in his place. Yes, we all have the right to our own opinions, and thoughts, but it doesn’t give you the right to push it out on everyone. This group isn’t hurting anyone, it is actually helping people. If you don’t like it, so What!

  • GreatRedeemer

    Certainly he may have his opinion and nobody is denying him free
    speech. I see nothing wrong when someone is a member of an organization and
    their personal views are no longer cohesive with it resigning or being removed.
    Heck, it’s the 21st century even the BSA allows youths regardless of
    sexual orientation.

    • Sis Delish

      My Club has an Opinion on your Posting. Based on your summation, most, if not all Democrats should demand the immediate resignation of the president, unless of course, they condone lying about ACA. That’s My Club’s Opinion on your Posting.

      • GreatRedeemer

        LOL, thanks for the chuckle.

      • Pete

        So your club is an Anti Democratic Club and not one that questions all politicians. Sad that the Bush’s held office for 16 years and did nothing but line the pockets of their buddies with our tax money. But that doesn’t bother you does it?

        • Sis Delish

          My Club wants to know. Are you condoning the lying about ACA, a.k.a. BushCare?

        • Oneday67

          Tell us again how many years the Bush’s held office. SMH

          • William

            Guess Pete was no math major…….

        • Bill Love

          the bush”s held office for 12 years no wonder america is going to hell. if you have to look up the facts before you post way you wont look like a fool

  • CalamariHari

    Well done! It is encouraging to see action!

  • Guest

    We all have the right to our opinions-no matter how flawed. But, sometimes our actions have consequences. Believe me, I spent years being looked down upon or getting condescending smiles or outright hostility for my support of gay rights. In another time or place, I may even have lost my job for openly supporting gay rights.

    Here is a little tidbit form the Little League Charter:

    “Those representing themselves as Little League members or Little League leaders in any capacity must refrain from any communication, whether written or spoken, that tends to degrade or demean any person or group. Violation of this policy, in the opinion of the Little League International Charter Committee in South Williamsport, PA, will be considered not in the best interest of Little League Baseball and Softball, and may result in action by the Committee up to and including removal of the person from such capacity and/or revocation of the local Little League’s charter.”

    So, it seems that Little League East had no choice but to do what they did. Chris Sito can espouse all the bigoted thoughts and beliefs he chooses-it is his constitutional right, of course. But again, actions can have consequences and Chris Sito got his today…

    • John Ripley

      Thank you for the reference to the Little League Charter!

      • Chris Sito

        My phone still works John. 725-5775. Use it.

  • Amy Johnson

    We all have the right to our opinions-no matter how flawed. But, sometimes our actions have consequences. Believe me, I spent years being looked down upon or getting condescending smiles or outright hostility for my support of gay rights. In another time or place, I may even have lost my job for openly supporting gay rights-in some places today I probably still could.

    Here is a little tidbit form the Little League Charter:

    “Those representing themselves as Little League members or Little League leaders in any capacity must refrain from any communication, whether written or spoken, that tends to degrade or demean any person or group. Violation of this policy, in the opinion of the Little League International Charter Committee in South Williamsport, PA, will be considered not in the best interest of Little League Baseball and Softball, and may result in action by the Committee up to and including removal of the person from such capacity and/or revocation of the local Little League’s charter.”

    So, it seems that Little League East had no choice but to do what they did. Chris Sito can espouse all the bigoted thoughts and beliefs he chooses-it is his constitutional right, of course. But again, actions can have consequences and Chris Sito got his today…

    • golfingirl

      But did he do so in his capacity as a Board Member of the Little League?

      No matter what anyone says, it can always be viewed as offensive by someone. This being the case, complete silence is the option for anyone who volunteers for any organization.

      I do not agree with Mr. Sito’s actions. Just wondering how anyone can say a word in today’s society without offending someone.

      • Sarah Boesger

        You can say words that encourage, support, engage, and defend the helpless/voiceless, and that’s usually not a problem with anyone.

        • golfingirl

          So you can never disagree? Only “support, engage, and defend the helpless/voiceless.”

          I am not speaking to this issue any longer, I agree he should have kept his mouth shut.

          But speaking out on a topic almost always involves disagreement with someone. Everyone has different opinions.

          Who decides if your disagreement reaches the level of blasphemy, or is so offensive that it cannot be tolerated?

          Just asking.

    • golfingirl

      Another “tidbit” from the Charter:

      “This in no way is meant to interfere with any person’s right of free speech. It is intended only to ensure that any person refrains from making any statements that demean any person or group, while ACTING IN THEIR CAPACITY as a representative or leader at any level of Little League. It also is important to note that local, state, provincial or national laws take precedent over this policy if there is a conflict.”

      I believe he was speaking as a resident, taxpayer, whatever. The link to Little League was brought in by the reporter. He never made any claim he was speaking in his capacity as a Little League Board Member, or his opinion in any way reflected those of the Little League organization.

      I am not supporting him here.

      I don’t think we have heard the last from Mr. Sito. My guess he will not go quietly.

  • CalamariHari

    Please stop trying to engage “Swish Delish” in any type of interchange. It is a waste of energy and precious brain cells. You are good people and you stand for what is right and loving. A battle against hatred was won (thanks, Sarah). There will be more, but I am encouraged by the strength and courage of the kids at EHS. They are our future…let’s continue to support them!

    • golfingirl

      Are you really the God of Cephalopodas, as your name implies?

    • Eric M

      What Hatred? Sarah got up on here soap box and blasted a guy for having an opinion. Sarah even used the story yesterday about the bomb threat to post links to her petition against Sito. You even have someone bashing the example he has on his children. You better look in a mirror. What the Children have been shown so far, is voice your opinion and get ran out of town. Thanks Sarah !!
      The Kids of this country especially at the High School age need to learn how the process works and get prepared for life away from Mommy and Daddy. The Sarah’s of this world have sissified this country to the point to where the kids coming out of High School remain children until they get into their mid 30′s.
      Grow up and let our kids grow up.

      • CalamariHari

        Eric, I respect your opinion. I also must respectfully submit mine as a parent (and as a “grown up”). I would say that from what I observed yesterday, the young people at EHS stood up for what THEY believed in. Prepared for life away from Mommy and Daddy? I saw a tangible example of how these fantastic young people ARE in fact preparing themselves for “life away from mommy and daddy”. The stood for what they believe in – just as I suppose you are. And, as B4CE has beautifully expressed, they have handled the backlash of their first amendment rights better than so-called “grown ups”.

        • Eric M

          Yes the kids did well yesterday morning standing up for what they believe in and Luckily the Sarahs of the world weren’t there cursing them for having an opinion.

        • golfingirl

          Are you really the God of Cephalopodas, as your name implies?

          A creature from deep in the sea, who resides on the low end of the food chain? One who’s only purpose is to be battered and then deep fried?

          Just curious. I have never met a God before.

      • Vision

  • golfingirl

    So the question I have, is this “resignation” going to result in more, or less, votes for Issue 2?

    The upcoming school levy and the formation of the Allies group have now been tied together, primarily as a result of the attention this has received by those who opposed Mr. Sito, through the petition etc. . If not for the uproar from the public, it would have simply died on its own.

    It was originally about his position, that because of this group, voters should reject Issue 2. Has the backlash, with the resulting attention to the Allies, hurt, or helped the cause of those who support the upcoming school levy?

    Curious what you think.

    • Sarah Boesger

      I hope that voters look at the levy based on its merits. I hope they make a decision based on how they want their tax moneys to be allocated. I have never voiced an opinion on the levy. My action came because of Mr. Sito’s position on the Little League board and his attack on Allies. I will not voice an opinion on the levy because I agree, the two should have never been linked in the first place.

      • Sis Delish

        My Club has an Opinion on your Positing. My Club’s Opinion is that it is Impossible to Put Toothpaste back into the Tube.

        • Sarah Boesger

          Yep. Just ask Chris Sito.

          • Sis Delish

            My Club responds. My Club senses a bit of Gloating in your reply. My Club suggests you temper back your Apparent Gloating. She who Gloat’s sinks her Boats.

      • golfingirl

        But you have voiced an opinion on the levy, through your petition process. Whether intentional, or not, the two were linked, if only by association.

        Not a criticism, but the two issues will be tied together moving into the election. I am sure there are those here who will be sure they are.

        Mr Sito linked them first, but your protest of his actions further linked them, even if not intentionally. This is the topic of many of the comments posted here.

        Again, not a criticism, but the reality. Just curious what impact this will have on the upcoming school levy vote.

    • Falcon84

      You’re putting the cart before the horse. Chris Sito has made the Allies Club an issue with the levy, NOT those that oppose what he said. Let’s get your fact straight. Had Mr. Sito or anyone else not said a word about Allies, would any of this be happening? I doubt it. Your attempt to put the blame on those who responded is simply an attempt to shift blame.

      And I believe that the levy will pass now, in no small part because most people in Elyria are decent people, and don’t subscribe to bigotry and ignorance.

      • golfingirl

        Thank you for sharing your opinion.

        I suppose those who feel the schools are providing a good product (graduation rates etc.) for the taxpayer dollars they are receiving, and more monies will lead to an even better product. they will vote in favor of the levy.

        For those who wonder why cities like Avon can produce a much better “product”, at a fraction of the per student cost, will likely demand answers and accountability before rolling over and supporting another levy.

        You are correct, the existence of a “club” should not play into their decision.

      • Chris Sito

        Had the school not sent out an email saying new club; Attention Gay, Straight, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender students; none of this would have happened. Had they just said; Allies Club forming – none of this would have happened.

  • William

    I think Sarah is doing more to sink the levies chances rather than helping or maybe shes just against it anyways. Regardless were all just a bunch of hypocrites. lol

    • Sarah Boesger

      That is interesting since I have never made any statements regarding the levy.

      • William

        You didn’t have to mention the levy. You merely made it a part of this issue with the petition. Its all one in the same now and will be up to the vote.

        • Sarah Boesger

          Actually, Mr. Sito made the levy part of the Allies club with his statements. I asked that he be held to the level of accountability demanded by Little League. The levy was always going to be up to the vote. I believe Elyrians are smart enough to decide on the levy without Mr. Sito’s influences coming into play.

          • William

            I don’t doubt that you had any intent to make the levy a part of the issue. But as you have read these comments they are no doubt now tied together thanks to the light your petition shed on this whole issue. As someone else mentioned if it was left alone and not blown out of proportion it would have just quietly died away. Stories like this have a way of taking on a life of their own. Should be interesting to see what comes of it.

      • golfingirl

        “We Elyrians do NOT support Mr. Sito in his attempt to thwart a necessary school levy based on his disapproval of Allies.”

        This is directly from your original petition. How can you possibly say you made no statements regarding the levy?

        I see a lawsuit being filed soon. The petition as written made claims which a reasonable person could view as defamatory.

        Hope it doesn’t go there, but if it does, don’t be surprised.

        • William

          Yep….She may have unknowingly delivered an upper cut to the levies chances with that one. Just as Sarah stated there are consequences to our actions and she may have some herself.

          • Falcon84

            William, I’m assuming you’re against the levy, and if you’re like most people who vote against the schools, you’re just looking for an excuse to justify your no vote.

            What Sarah has done will have no effect on the levy, save for those ignorant people who can’t stand LGBT’s to begin with. What Chris Sito has done has galvanized a large part of the city to pass this levy, which our kids badly need.

          • William

            The only reason this levy us badly needed is because this school system is poorly managed. Throwing money at the problem doesn’t fix things. It only makes them worse. That’s the reason I am against the levy. This school board needs to recognize that in this economy money doesn’t just grow on trees. In a perfect world the students would have everything at their disposal. WAKE UP……It’s not a perfect world and the school budget needs to be right sized for today’s economy. If the Federal Government would do away with its unnecessary education bureaucracy it could put a billion dollars back into each states education system. This common core curriculum is rediculous. When I was in the Elyria School System they taught us just fine with a much smaller budget and nearly just as many kids most in part due to great teachers. I don’t see these younger teachers in it for the students as much anymore. A bunch of them are just in it for the paycheck. Until I see this school board start righting the ship I will fight to give them any more of my hard earned money. I guarantee that the sky will not fall if the levy fails which I hope it does.

          • Falcon84

            William, a system cannot operate on no funds. Every anti-education person like yourself always blames “mismanagement” for their no vote on any levy. This isn’t a levy to increase funding. This is a levy to keep it at a shoestring as it is, because people like you won’t support the school system no matter what.

            I’d have more respect for you if you just said “education isn’t important to me, and I’d rather buy those 10 six-packs a year with that money, thank you.”

            But you hide behind this false narrative every time.

          • golfingirl

            We will see. My guess is most of the city really doesn’t care about this group either way, and will vote on the merits of the levy.

            If you think Elyria provides a good education, spends judiciously, and more money equals even better results, it will pass. If not, it will not pass.

            Also, don’t forget people are pretty much “taxed” out. I am sure this will be an issue as well.

            I support schools when I feel the product is worth the cost. I don’t when I don’t. Basic economics, which school levies are not exempt from.

          • Falcon84

            I’ll amend what you said. The city WOULDN’T have cared had Mr. Sito not made denying this group the right to form and exist just like every other group MUST be allowed under Federal law. But he’s now tried to link the two, and in doing so, has shown, in my mind, a level of intolerance and ignorance that should’t exist in this city or anywhere.

            I think his actions, in the end, will have an opposite effect than the one he’s looking for. Most people, no matter what their beliefs, don’t like being held political hostage in the way Mr. Sito and his supporters are trying to hold the city and school system hostage to their intolerant views.

            In the end, I think the levy wins easily. Perhaps it would have done so anyway, but I think such open intolerance will put a lot of undecideds in the Yes columns.

        • Sarah Boesger

          If anyone wants to sue me for starting a petition to have someone disassociated from Little League, I am not sure that will go much of anywhere.

          • golfingirl

            No, but defamation will.

            Just saying, be careful.

        • Vision

          Please…

          • golfingirl

            Frivolous perhaps, but still very expensive to defend.

        • Chris Sito

          None of these people thought out what they were doing. Simple mob mentality.

    • Vision

      =/

  • Jared Donnelly

    sito also referred to homosexuals as a “belligerent group”. voicing an opinion is one thing. attacking homosexuals, and most importantly, these kids, is another.

  • BrownEyedGirl

    The man was expressing his opinion and frankly, I completely agree with him.

    • B4CE

      Well within both of your rights under the principle of free speech, neither of you are in danger of being Imprisoned for those thoughts. How ever, it does not protect either you from the consequences of that speech

      • Falcon84

        B4CE, a conservative talk show host the other day said we live in a Nazi Dictatorship!!! Are you telling me we DON’T? (dripping with sarcasm).

        • B4CE

          You are correct, you hit the nail on the head. A nazi dictator, self appointed tyrannical king in charge. But those republicans that constantly complain about the wussification of America are powerless to over come the weak liberal President that allowed Putin to eat his lunch.
          Feel free to say what ever you would like, even if it is in direct opposition of what you said yesterday.

    • Falcon84

      And Brown, that’s the beauty of America. You’re allowed your own freely expressed opinion. I disagree with him and you, and think such views are ignorant and hateful, and done out of spite.

      And, knowing that Mr. Sito and I went to EC, it’s sad that he has rejected Christ’s teachings in how He wanted us to treat each other: “He who is without sin, cast the first stone”; “A new commandment I give unto you: love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another”.

      So Mr. Sito is wrong on many levels; on a human level; on a social level; on a Christian level. Christ protected the prostitute; He welcomed the tax collector and the outcast. He didn’t say “love one another-except if they’re gay”.

      So you are safe in your expression of your belief. But being free to express those beliefs doesn’t mean you’re right. And, in 2014, we should be beyond such petty ignorance and bigotry. Grow up, and stop your hatred of those who don’t live exactly as you would like them to.

      • Chris Sito

        You, and most others, conveniently leave out the next line. After Jesus said he who is without sin cast the first stone – he then told the adulterer NOW, GO AND SIN NO MORE. Amazing how people somehow think Jesus approved of sin.

      • Chris Sito

        And, where is the hate? Show me one place with the high school kids or LL where anyone can give one example of hate from me. LOL. I hate no one. I do not like sin. And, you can love the sinner but not like the sins.

  • Jamie Smith

    Well my GOD doesn’t like UGLY or HATE……^ 5 Roy B on your post. I’m proud of these young adults to stand PROUD… ELYRIA, VOTE YES for ALL your kids education needs.

  • Todd

    If he wants to be a hateful neanderthal, that’s his right. Trying to cripple an already struggling school district is a great plan! It’s the Christian way, right? Oh wait, that’s the exact opposite!

    • Sis Delish

      My Club has an Opinion on your posting. My Club believes its the Spending which cripples any organization. My Club also believes a school district must reflect the economy of the people who support it. If people who support it feel there are expenditures which the school district can operate without, My Club feels they are within their rights to vote to sustain the school funding at or below current levels, based exclusively on economic concerns. That’s what My Club thinks.

      • The Thinker

        I think your Club has a current membership of one.

        • johns62

          he agrees with himself in the mirror, so it more like 1.5

        • Sis Delish

          My Club responds. If you read the Posting yesterday about the formation of My Club, you would find that Yes, I did set up My Club to represent me and my thoughts and desires. I also pointed out that You Too can form your own Club so that I didn’t come across as exclusive, rather inclusive. Most importantly, just like The Allies, a Club, you cannot attack my positions held by My Club, if you are being consistent about protecting their Club for being a Club.

      • The Thinker

        I’m wondering what your “Club” thinks the district should cut if the levy fails? They laid-off 50+ teachers last year and have laid off teachers in 8 of the last 9 years. They eliminated all 7th grade sport teams. They eliminated all the media center specialists. They eliminated the entire consumer science course of study at all levels. They have closed entire schools and restructured all of the “junior highs” into “middle schools”.
        Should they cut all the music programs (Band, Orchestra, Choir)? All athletic teams? Business classes? ROTC? Art? Foreign Languages? All Physical Education? Bussing? Full-day kindergarten?
        Do you genuinely believe living in a city that offers ONLY state minimum educational classes benefits the city, its residents, or your property value?
        Please Sis, enlighten us as what your “Club” thinks should go if the levy fails because what is listed above is just the start of what will go if the levy is defeated.

        • golfingirl

          Why then does it cost so much more per student in Elyria, than surrounding areas which has a much higher success rate? Avon for example.

          Just asking. If they can do it, why not Elyria. Not being critical, just looking for the reasons.

          • The Thinker

            I’m not an expert but I’m willing to speculate…
            I am willing to bet Elyria has higher percentage of students in special education which requires more special education teachers. I’m further willing to wager that Elyria has higher number of LEP (Limited English Proficient) students as well. I know for a fact Elyria has higher number of what the state calls “economically disadvantaged” (students would for example receive free or reduced lunch, free breakfast, etc) students than Avon. There are many factors that go into figuring out the cost per student and these are just few.

          • golfingirl

            You are probably correct. I am not sure what all goes into the math. But my curiosity will no doubt make me look into it.

            Regardless, the cost is much, much greater, only to see such a high dropout rate. It is discouraging and I just am not sure more money will ever solve it.

          • The Thinker

            The math is complicated and not my strong suite. Avon spends the least in terms of amount per student of any district in the state. It is also not an apples to apples comparison. Elyria is an urban district as where Avon is a rural district. It is also important to note that this is not a new tax. The district is simply asking to renew or keep in place the existing funding. The fundamental question for me would be is has the district been a good steward of the resources they’ve been given. They’ve made cuts. They’ve done more with less consistently. If Elyria would be forced to go to a state minimum standard education what you will most likely see is a mass exodus of students fleeing to other districts. This will further damage funding to the Elyria City Schools as those funds per student follow said students to the districts they leave for.

        • Sis Delish

          My Club has an opinion on your question. My Club’s previous statement stands. My Club believes a school district must reflect the economy of the people who support it.. et al. My Club does not make specific recommendations. Its a bottom line issue for Taxpayers. K.I.S.S.

          • The Thinker

            In the interest of keeping it simple for the stupid and allowing to skip the hard questions of which programs to cut I’ll ask you again to answer the easy question. Do you genuinely believe living in a city that offers ONLY state minimum educational classes benefits the city, its residents, or your property value?

          • Sis Delish

            My Club will answer your Simple Question. My Club believes that the former and
            current leadership of the City has put the City into its current
            situation as it pertains to Property Values which then are used to
            calculate the Cost of the Levies, both already on the Books and yet to
            come. My Club further states that the current residents of The City are
            being Taxed at a rate that adjusts for the lowering of overall property
            values (i.e.: a passive tax increase) Given that the rate at which
            property taxes are calculated have already been adjusted up to capture the shortfalls due to lower property values. The Renewal should then result in another passive increase in the property taxes. My Club could be wrong, but that’s what My Club believes. Taking all that into account, My Club sees further exodus from the City to more efficient cities, which does have a direct correlation to the cost/performance of the educational system, or for the stupid and simple, the Schools as the primary source of Revenues for the Schools are Property Taxes.

          • Sis Delish

            My Group wishes to attach an addedum to its previous Post and to be more responsive to The Thinker’s original Post on School Savings. My Club has found that the State of Indiana is Scrapping Common Core because of its costs. My Group agrees, and would Scrap Common Core if it helped save taxpayer/property owners in Elyria.

          • The Thinker

            Is your club aware that scraping Common Core will result in the loss of federal funding for the schools as well? Is your club aware that 70% Indiana’s new curriculum comes directly from Common Core? I have no particular love for Common Core but ditching it would only raise the burden on taxpayer/property owners in Elyria.

          • Sis Delish

            My Club has an opinion. When the Federal Government holds hostage a State’s actions by imposing costly new programs perhaps a State does not desire (remember when Highway Funds were tied to 55 mph?), My Group believes in forgoing such directives. As for the impact on the local taxpayer/property owners, My Group does not believe the withholding of Federal Funds to Fund a program which didn’t exist until the Feds created it will NOT affect the locals.

          • The Thinker

            Does your club actually research anything or do they just post ramblings based on headlines and hope they occasionally get things right?

      • Sean MacNair

        My club thinks you shouldn’t hide behind a created identity if you want people to take you seriously. If you believe in what you post, put your name to it. Otherwise, I just click the “hide” button and zip past to read more useful comments.

        • Sis Delish

          My Club is amused by your post. My Club asks you if your belief that yesterday’s bomb threat was as you suggested, “coincidental” to the protesting students, in your posting of yesterday. My Club believes that just because you put Your name on it, doesn’t mean we have to take You seriously. That’s what My Club thinks.

        • golfingirl

          Must have forgotten to hit the “hide button” this time.

          I really do believe, deep down inside you enjoy her posts.

          Fair to say you will never respond to another post which has a person’s full name?

          I am fine with that. Please “hide” mine also.

    • Chris Sito

      Who do I hate?

  • schoolcounselor1

    I applaud the Little League Board and Elyria Schools for supporting the Allies Club and the students. Mr. Sito obviously does not understand what an Allies Club is, nor does he understand the importance of having such a club in a school. Bravo, Little League and Elyria Schools. Bravo. I only wish I lived in your district so that I could vote YES on your upcoming levy. I encourage everyone to vote YES for Elyria Schools levy in May. Signed, A parent and retired school counselor.

    • Sis Delish

      My Club has an observation about your posting. My Club believes it is always easier to spend someone else’s money. My Club believes you hold that opinion.

      • schoolcounselor1

        My concern is with the well-being of all students, emotionally, academically, socially, psychologically. If the issue at hand is about dollars and cents, then this Club should not play into whether or not someone votes for or against the levy. Most school clubs do not cost districts very little or anything at all to operate, and many advisors volunteer their time. It is my observation that those who now oppose the levy are doing so because the oppose the Allies Club. People should decide to vote for or against the levy based on their financial means not out of hatred towards a school club.

        • Larry Crnobrnja

          When it comes down to making a decision whether to support a school levy or not, it’s not just a financial consideration. You make it sound like everyone who can afford to spend more should, regardless of how those dollars are being spent. I shudder to think of the advice you offer some of your students.

          • schoolcounselor1

            You are right. All things need to be taken into consideration when voting on a school levy, including whether or not one can afford the increase in taxes on their family’s budget. I may or may not think my district is spending their dollars wisely. If, in my opinion, they are not, then that will play into my decision. It will play into who I support for school board in the future as well.

  • wileythruster

    “Ostracize us will you! Well Mr. Sito we’re going to ostracize you right back! How dare you have an opinion that differs from ours! How dare you! And the rest of you better fall in line too!” Supporters of the Allies Club

  • golfingirl

    Sarah, you are to be congratulated on your efforts, and your “perceived victory” for now. Just don’t over celebrate.

    Best if you quietly ride into the sunset on this one, savoring your victory and keeping a low profile. I would probably not make any more posts defending the reasons you did what you did. Just adding fuel to already roaring fire.

    I do not know Mr. Sito. Many here say they do. To those that do, does he seem like the type of person who would file litigation against the Little League for what he views as an unjust termination from the Board?

    In my opinion, there have been many defamatory remarks made against him here. That is fine, but when one person uses this forum as a way to promote an action, in this case through the circulation of a petition, they open themselves up for all kinds of unwelcome consequences.

    In an attempt to have others view and sign a petition, which had negative consequences against a person, there were comments made by Sarah which could probably be considered inappropriate, and perhaps even defamatory.

    While it is fun and exhilarating to ride the wave of public support when you initiate a petition, and then accept the salutes when you get your way, you will be held accountable for the damage you inflicted along the way. In this case, possibly by Mr. Sit himself, by way of the legal system.

    When all the emotion is taken out, only words remain. I caution you to select yours wisely, as you may be asked to explain them at some later time, in front of a jury.

    I hope it doesn’t come to this, but depending on the type of person Mr. Sito is, it very well may.

    • wileythruster

      Good post. I don’t think there is any doubt that there are grounds for a Defamation lawsuit against the originator of this petition. The shear wording of it could be construed as hateful and malicious with the intent to harm Mr. Sito’s reputation.

      • Falcon84

        I doubt there is. Mr. Sito made his views known in a public forum, and it is part of the record now. No one forces Little League to get rid of him; and anyone is allowed to oppose him if they so choose in the same public forum.

    • Falcon84

      Dearie, when one uses social media to promote an action that’s called FREEDOM. Mr. Sito has the freedom of his views, even if they are ignorant and hateful, and others have the freedom to respond to him if he makes those views a public issue. I do not agree with Little League getting rid of him, unless he did something within that organization that warrants it. But I am against his ignorance and his perversion of Christ’s teaching to further a worldly political goal. When one makes themselves a public figure, as Mr. Sito has done, one has to take the criticism as well as the praise that will come from the public.

      • golfingirl

        “Dearie”

        A petition is not “social media.”

        Statements made to the press are not “social media.”

        We agree here on the issue, but just suggesting caution.

        • Falcon84

          A petition that has been circulated via Twitter or Facebook, or the internet in any way, is part of the social media. So, there, you are wrong, I’m happy to say.

      • Sis Delish

        My Group has made an Observation. Falcon84 does not practice what he Preaches. My Group quotes Falcon84:

        “Bob Frantz-another guy who makes me ashamed that we went to the same
        High School. Frantz is just a Limbaugh wanna-be, and may be more
        extreme than that blowhard.
        And,
        “But I am against his (Sito’s) ignorance and his perversion of Christ’s teaching to further a worldly political goal.”

        My Group wants to know what teachings by Christ permit Falcon84 to be ashamed of his High School Peers?

    • It has to stop

      I would be more surprised if Sito didn’t file a lawsuit. Whether he had legal grounds or not.

      • golfingirl

        And whether you are right or wrong, win or lose the case, the legal fees will bury you.

  • Carol Anderson

    Finally Mr. Sito has been put in his place and been knocked down a few notches.LONG time coming!!!! His mouth and opinions have ran their course and finally exposed his intelligence. Chris, meet Karma……

  • wowwhatnow

    Yes Eric he did execute his free speech, however he also agreed to follow the charter set forth by the Little League Council. Once he degraded and demeaned the Allies he broke the rules of the charter. Hence he was removed for his statements. He can go on saying all he wants about the Allies and not vote for the levy, which is still his right to free speech. No one is hindering his right, they just removed him from the LL Council due to the fact that he went against their stated beliefs.

    • Larry Crnobrnja

      He most certainly did NOT violate the Little League charter. Just because some other poster incorrectly or dishonestly made that claim doesn’t make it so.

      • wowwhatnow

        Larry get over it – once you are in a leadership role you are representing it. Your screenshot only supports the poster’s statement. He demeaned and degraded the Allies and was removed for it. He is a well known leader of the Little League Council, which means at all times he is a representative. Your argument does not hold water. Now sit down and quit saying the poster misrepresented.

        • Larry Crnobrnja

          Comprehension – the act or action of grasping with the intellect

          You, Sarah and The Thinker(LMFAO) don’t have it.

          • wowwhatnow

            If you are seeing yourself as the “intellect”, than you sir are correct, our intellect far exceeds your crazy rantings.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Offered without comment…

          • Vision

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Yeah, what he said.

      • the cook

        Can you just stop talking, its making you look dumb!

        • Larry Crnobrnja

          Really?

          • the cook

            Kinda

  • Donald Duck

    Now maybe BOB FRANTZ can take over, they both are one in the same. Stand aside EGOS WILL ALWAYS FAIL.

    • Donald Duck

      EASE GOD OUT (EGO)

    • Falcon84

      Bob Frantz-another guy who makes me ashamed that we went to the same High School. Frantz is just a Limbaugh wanna-be, and may be more extreme than that blowhard.

  • woodyhaze

    Unleash the libtards

  • Bruce Tennant

    I’m confused. The school system has to allow the club just as they allow a Christian prayer club and other clubs. There is no choice. Leadership of the school system may or may not personally approve of or support the club but they have to allow it. All of us have a right to an opinion, all of us have a right to vote how we see fit. Organizations have a right to deal with the speech of their members/officials. What I’m confused about is why was this club conflated with the Levy to begin with ? The club has to be allowed whether or not one personally agrees with it. The levy is either needed or not on it’s own financial merits.Why these two things are tied together is beyond me, although again to each their own opinion. The two just don’t appear to go together to me. Why hurt the kids in the school system because of a disagreement over a club that has to be allowed ?

  • Bill Franklin
    • golfingirl

      I saw that article….

      “Some citizens are working to defeat the tax renewal, not because the school is performing poorly or the administration displaying poor stewardship of the funds, but because high school students have formed a student organization.”

      Just focus on the “performance” of the school system and the levy will surely fail.

      • Falcon84

        Sorry, GG, but the levy will pass. I think deep down, you’re just one of those people who won’t support public education and this gives you a cover to say no to funding our schools. Even though it costs you only probably one nice family dinner a year to pay your share, you don’t believe in education. The levy will pass. Intolerant people like yourself have almost assured that with your sexual hangups.

        • golfingirl

          Honestly, I am not. I have supported every school levy I can think of.

          I hope it does pass.

    • William

      Bill if you like that article then your just another person who believes everybody should see the world as you see it and like it. Let me share my personal opinion on how I feel about the whole gay and lesbian issue. I do not support gay rights. But wait theres more. I also don’t fight gay rights. I am a God fearing individual who believes the Bible tells us that being gay is a sin. But are we not all sinners anyways? Nobody is perfect myself included. I also believe the Bible tells us to treat others as you would want them to treat you regardless of their beliefs. I have a number of gay friends and some of them are very close friends. They know how I feel about the issue and don’t force their ideals on me nor do I to them. We simply treat each other as friends and go out and have a beer together. We just respect each others opinions. If a bunch of kids wish to form a club by all means form a club. Just don’t force it on others in the school. As for the levy. As I said elsewhere the school board needs to do more with less. Just like everybody else. Thing like ROTC is great but is it really necessary for a good education. No. I served in the Marines straight out of high school and did just fine with no ROTC program. Just like a business they need to cut the pork. Its there but they don’t want you to see it. So for me its NO to the levy.

    • wileythruster

      Fantastic? Again..another holier-than-thou Liberal argument the gist of which is “if you disagree with what we think you are a bigot, hater, racist, ignorant, homophobic, religious loon who deserves to be laughed at, defamed, ostracized, smeared and maybe even tarred and feathered.” Funny how those on the Left constantly preaching tolerance are the least tolerant of all.

      • ched

        Really??? Where did you come from? Sure in the Heck isn’t this Country, let alone being a Human Being. If you have the nerve to say something, then you should have the nerve to expect a reply! Get a Life!

        • wileythruster

          Thank you Chad for proving my point.

  • SniperFire

    Freedom of speech in America – until you disagree with the neo-Stalinist Left.

    • Falcon84

      How is Mr. Sito’s freedom’s being violated in any way? No one is silencing him; he hasn’t been arrested; he hasn’t been asked not to speak. He’s quite as free today as he was before he made this comment.

      Or do you imply that others don’t have the right to publicly challenge him on his views, and that infringes his rights. His right to free speech comes with the awareness that others won’t agree with you.

      And, secondly, Free Speech isn’t the issue here. The First Amendment doesn’t apply, as that only apples when The Government tries to silence a citizens speech. So this isn’t about free speech. All you’re doing is trying to deflect away from what the issue is-which is intolerance and bigotry.

  • Joe O

    Now please explain to me how this helps the situation. Lets turn the tables and go in a parallel universe. Where being gay was normal and straight was not normal. And he was in your shoes supporting an straight group. And you spoke you mind saying being gay was fine and he got you kicked off a board only because you spoke your mind. Now if someone at elyria high started say an anti allies group it would be shut down fast and everyone in it will possibly be charge with a hate crime now what’s right about that??? Now questions, 1 do we live in America? Yes! 2 As Americans do we have right especially “freedom of speech” and “freedom of press”? Hell Yes! So why are you getting mad at him for speaking his mind. I don’t hear him trying to het you kicked off a board or fired because of your comments. And you guys are worried that he’s telling people to vote no on issue 2. Alright guys lets go back to third grade. What if chris told you to jump off a bridge. Would you do it I think not. People are going to do what they want to do. And lastly I thought it was wrong for the chronicle to post first that the bomb threat was called in regard to the rally in the morning. Which started a whole other arguement. And that argument could have been avoided if they would have just reported that there was a bomb threat. And then wait and see why it was called instead of jumping to conclusions. Because after all the bomb threat was in no way related to the rally.

    • William

      I agree Joe about the threat……Just ask the bank folks on the other side of town.

    • Sis Delish

      My Group opines. My Group calculates the Student Population would dramatically Decrease in your “parallel universe” as the number of heterosexuals required to maintain population growth (i.e.: Have Children) would be almost extinct. In that scenario, My Group deducts it would not be an issue. That’s what My Group thinks.

  • Sean MacNair

    Good god I am not reading through 183 comments to see if there are any well-written, intelligent ones. Probably over 200 by the time I finish typing this sentence. The Chronicle should close comments for a day after the publication of an article just to force people to THINK about what they typing.

    • golfingirl

      Are you suggesting the CT institute a process which prohibits people from expressing their opinions?

      Puts limits the freedom of expression? Discriminates against those who type slowly, or the poor who may not have ready access to a computer?

      How dare you! Where is your tolerance.

      • Sis Delish

        My Club has an observation. Yesterday, there were over 300 posts which Sean MacNair participated in. My Club believes Sean MacNair doesn’t have a foundation to stand on in requesting the cessation of today’s 66% less postings.

        • golfingirl

          That is because all his gay-activist friends joined in to offer him support. He was in his element, thriving off all the attention.

          He could not wait to get to the keyboard to see how many “thumbs up” he was receiving. Different story today, his 15 minutes of fame is over.

          Oh well, since we are smart enough not to post under our “real” names, he stated he will no longer be reading our posts any longer anyway. Praise the Lord, there is a God! But I bet he peeks from time too time.

          Funny, how I post my pic, but not my name. He posts his name, but not his pic. Seems like that should make us even.

          Just another example of intolerance on his part. Makes me wonder, why does he want our names anyway?

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            I’m glad that I post anonymously.

  • Donald Duck

    Chris there are two people in this world that want to Thank you, One, me for you doing a good job at bringing yourself and the City of Elyria in the forefront of the Nation. Thanks for the embarrassment. As well as Mayor Holly Brinda because you took the spot light off of her and her Administrations and there corrupt dealings. Chris, I know you always wanted to be a somebody, but this is not the way to do it.

  • Ginger Beane

    This is one sad day, to see a community devided causes hurt to all involved..Vote for issue 2, say yes to our kids that we support all there events..soccer moms, all team moms, and remember, one may be gay, support her as well!!!

  • Michael A. Figueroa

    Bye! Don’t let the door of intolerance hit your bigoted a**!

  • Sis Delish

    An observation. This story reminds My Group of the dismissal, first, of Bernie Kosar from the Browns for “diminishing skills”, then the subsequent firing of Bill Belichick because he wasn’t media-friendly. Both gentlemen went on to be successful once they were out of the Cleveland market. The Browns never recovered. My Group sees a similar outlook for L.L. East in Elyria especially if the departing Board member was a stellar fundraiser. That’s what my Group thinks.

    • Falcon84

      Gee, I think they thrived before he got there, they’ll live on after he leaves. No one is indispensable.

      • Sis Delish

        And, yet, the Browns continue to suck. Belicheck was NOT indispensable, yet the folks ran him out of town.

  • Bob Sweatt

    I just want to see if anyone got this far down. If so reply to this if you did.

    • wowwhatnow

      Replied!

    • golfingirl

      I sort from newest post to oldest. So yours came out on top.

    • ekwaykway

      Well I made it this far, don’t know how much more of this garbage I can plow through.

  • wowwhatnow

    I do not think many of those posting on here have a clear understanding of what “Free Speech” really means. So lets approach it in a different manner since so many of you believe Mr. Sito’s rights were infringed upon. In a public school 2 students walk up to another and begin screaming names at this child “white trash”, “loser”, “stupid”, “smelly”…etc. Now according to many of you this would be a form of expressing their opinion or “free speech”. However, the school clearly has rules about this type of behavior, which leads to the two students being removed from the school for the day or two. How about this situation, a school superintendent is speaking to people in the community and makes a comment about how the Hispanic kids have formed a club at the school which he finds to be ridiculous because “most of them are probably not even here legally and need to go back and stop taking the jobs of the people here”. As a leader in the community is it okay for him to make such a unproven blanket statement about kids of a different race? It is Free Speech right? WRONG!!! Free speech is not intended to keep people from suffering repercussions when they say hateful things. Free Speech tells you that the Government cannot set restrictions on what you say, express, feel, or think. No where does it say that if you tell people in your community how you feel about a group such as the “Allies” that no one will punish you for it. The Charter was clear. When you are set in a leadership role that role does not end when you sit down at a restaurant, walk into a store, or talk on the phone. You are a constant representation of that group regardless of where you are. If said group has specific rules about hate or degrading speech, than you should expect to pay the consequences. No one is hindering your rights to speak your mind as you can continue to voice what you feel and believe…you just cannot do it while you are in the leadership role. Mr. Sito can still voice his thoughts and he can still vote how he chooses – he just cannot do it as a LL council member.

    • golfingirl

      But did he do it AS a Little League member, in his capacity as a LL member, or does he just happen to be a Little League member who choose to speak up about an issue he feels strongly about?

      Big difference. Speaking for himself, or speaking on behalf of an organization.

      • Vision

        Don’t be a sore loser.

        • golfingirl

          I didn’t lose, I never supported him.

          One question I do have though, are you gay?

          • Falcon84

            WHY DO YOU CARE??? Shut up already! You’re obsessed with gay/straight. Get over it!!

          • golfingirl

            Thank you for sharing your opinion.

      • wowwhatnow

        Regardless where he was or who he was with – as a member of the LL Council he is ALWAYS representing the Little League. So when he makes statements such as the ones he did than he needs to deal with the repercussions of his actions. He can still go on with voicing his opinion…he just can’t do while sitting on the counsel.

        • Larry Crnobrnja

          “…as a member of the LL Council he is ALWAYS representing the Little League.”

          That is patently false.

    • Vision

      It’s over. Chin up. I hope someday you’ll join us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hg5skx5TZM

      • golfingirl

        Interesting you would post a Queen video to support your gay rights position.

        Didn’t the lead singer die from AIDS???

        Probably should have thought that one through. Not exactly the best poster child for your cause.

        • Vision

          Good grief. Here you happy now ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zrtfuCiOJ4

          • golfingirl

            No more videos please. I beg you!

            I never click on external links.

            So, are you gay or not?

          • Vision

            OMG. I do not think they want me to reply to that !!! hahaha why me ?

          • golfingirl

            No, you definitely are not my type…laughing.

          • golfingirl

            “Here you happy now?” Sorry, I don’t understand your question.

            Having difficulty typing with one hand?

          • Vision

            So your almost out of ammo, so you resort to being a grammar cop. You’re so hot.

          • golfingirl

            No, just did not understand your question.

          • golfingirl

            Being an NRA Lifetime Member, I can assure you I never run out of ammo.

        • wowwhatnow

          Hold on a second you sure as heck better not be saying that AIDS is the “homosexual” disease. The song is the representation – not the singer.

          • golfingirl

            Did not say that at all. I was not the one who posted it. Just trying to understand the meaning and purpose behind someone using it in reference to a subject which deals with gay rights.

            No harm intended. I think the poster’s intentions may have been a bit skewed.

          • Vision

            I don’t know. They always play that song after the big games,, or they used to anyway. You are so intellectually stimulating. I can only imagine how visually stimulating you are. I would dominate you, in time, if I had the chance.

          • golfingirl

            Sorry, but you will never get that chance.

            You can dream, but you can never touch!

          • CalamariHari

            LOL! Oh, Dolphingirl… you are such a source of amusement…thank you, Vision! You have made my night!

          • golfingirl

            Ahhhh….we once again hear from the bottom of the food chain. The lowly squid, a.k.a. “Calamari.”

            Thank you for your usual, insightful comment.

          • CalamariHari

            And for your customary narcissism. Always a pleasure reading posts from someone who has nothing better to do but sit on a threaded discussion, say sometimes insightful things, usually useless, nasty things…oh, and sometimes runs around chasing a little white ball…

          • golfingirl

            Relax, just having a little Spring Break fun.

            Off to Florida next week for some golf, so I will disappear in a few days.

            Just try to tolerate me in the meantime…..laughing

          • CalamariHari

            “Fun” = nasty. Your comments about AIDS were over the top. Until then, I didn’t waste my time – but, I admit, you hit a nerve. I truly feel badly for you, golfingirl. I hope your golf trip allows you to exorcise some of the nasty out of you.

          • golfingirl

            I apologize for bringing facts into the conversation.

            Oh well, heading out for the night.

            Have a good evening everyone.

          • CalamariHari

            You as well. Be safe!

          • golfingirl

            I don’t need to say it anyway, the CDC says it very well….

            “Although MSM represent about 4% of the male population in the United States4, in 2010, MSM accounted for 78% of new HIV infections among males and 63% of all new infections.”

            It definite is a risk factor of being a gay male, is it not?

      • golfingirl

        Vision,

        It is okay if you are gay. I have no prejudices against gay people. I understand the internal struggles many like yourself experience.

        Please don’t give up. There is a group at EHS which can help you through the turmoil this has caused in your life.

        Just face it head on, seek the support you need. Don’t be embarrassed, or feel inferior because of your sexual orientation.

        I am sure someday you will find a nice man who understands.

        Hang in there good buddy.

        • Falcon84

          Usually someone who has to say “I have no prejudices against (put in group/person here), has all kinds of prejudices against that very group/person. It’s like saying “well, I have gay friends”.

          So, guess what, you are showing your prejudices. And you are clearly anti-gay. And that being the case, I have one question: why do you even CARE what someone you don’t even know is like in their private life? Is your life not exciting enough, that you have to stick your nose into others’ business and demand they live their life the way you want them to.

          • golfingirl

            I believe I was asking Vision a question.

            Thank you for your opinion.

        • Kelvin Gray

          Laughing my butt off over here. Good buddy? That sounds so familiar. I wonder where that’s from. Well not really but…carry on.

          • golfingirl

            It is a term often used to describe a homosexual trucker. They would often use it to let other truckers know they were ready to play meat puppets.

            I’m sure that will be deleted!

          • Kelvin Gray

            Hmm…unfortunately I’ve known that for years. To be a lady you are all over the place. That term is used almost exclusively in the industry. Seldomly have I heard it used outside of the industry. Thing is I myself used it towards someone, whom I won’t mention but coincidentally is from Avon also, but it wasn’t quite understood. But according to my 10-36, I’ll be 10-8. South bound hammer down.

          • golfingirl

            Have a safe trip.

    • Falcon84

      No one is denying Mr. Sito’s right to free speech, but with it comes responsibility and having to listen to opposing views. So you are right on in your assessment that this isn’t about free speech. It’s about a view that many of us find intolerant and ignorant, and while a person has the right to be that way, I have a right, in return, to oppose such views.

      And the other thing people don’t realize about free speech is their invocation of the First Amendment in this case, which, if it hasn’t happened already, most likely will. The First Amendment ONLY applies when the government tries to interfere with the right of a citizen to his/her views, as long as they do not invoke something like treason or sedition.

      Mr. Sito and those who agree with him are safe in what they believe, within the laws of a free society, but it doesn’t mean they’re right ,and it doesn’t mean that I cannot challenge what I see are very ignorant, bigoted views.

      • golfingirl

        Someone please buy Falcon a plunger.

        He could use one, since he keeps bringing up the same old cr*p!

  • Chris

    Who ever the troll is who deleted my post, proved my point about the dirty tricks. They know I’m right. Joke is on you because you can delete my post but not my knowledge!!

    • ekwaykway

      Now just go and post it on FaceTube.

    • Joe Smith

      The only people who can delete a post is the Chronicle staff.

  • Donald Duck
  • melissa

    So now you are no longer allowed an opinion and keep your job..unless of course that opinion suits the powers that be. And that fairytale of a book you mentioned Jared…could be just that. But if its not, I would rather be the believer when it all comes down. And how is Mr. Sito a bully? He voiced his opinion! Should you all lose your jobs for voicing yours? Seems you all hate him for what he said while ranting about hating…comically pathetic.

    • ched

      Seems like your Comically Pathetic. Everything you just stated, makes no sense!

  • Nunya Business

    He’s right. High school is a place for learning. Not sexual orientation clubs. PERIOD.

    • ched

      Your Right….but Who has a Sexual Orientation Club? NOT EHS!!!!

  • Vision
  • CalamariHari

    Well said, Ryan!

  • Sis Delish

    My Club wants an Opinion Piece from The Allies Club and their supporters on the Ron Nabakowski Story hitting the press today.

  • golfingirl

    I think Sarah B. may have experienced an “UH NO” moment yesterday and realized should have exercised a little restraint in her efforts to have Mr. Sito removed from his Little League position.

    Haven’t seen any recent posts from her, since early yesterday, when she thanked all who her supported with their congratulatory salutes.

    I fear litigation may be forthcoming and hopefully she sought the opinion of counsel and wisely was advised to back down and post no more.

    Am I correct Sarah?

    I know, under the advise of counsel, you cannot answer that question, can you?

    • ched

      Ya think?????? DeetaDee. Your Special……

      • golfingirl

        Thank you, my parents tell me that all the time.

        • Vision

          I voted his comment “thumbs down”.

      • Vision

        Easy on my girl there bub.

    • Larry Crnobrnja

      I think she’s embarrassed that I PROVED she was dishonest/disingenuous/mistaken when quoting the Little League charter.

      • golfingirl

        I think she may have “lawyered up” and was told to “shut up.”

        • Sis Delish

          Like the Welfare Mom who thought she won The Lottery, but was actually suffering from Dyslexia and wore her ‘lil self out before realizing what was what, perhaps.

          Same thing happened with “Young Teacher” when I made her aware that she was blogging on and on about her life as a Teacher when she should have been in the classroom at 10:30 on a Wednesday morning… Shuts them right up as tight as a Clam.

        • Vision
    • Vision

      Just let her go babe. I’m here for you. ***Snuggles up to you**** <<<>>> ^^^^Cuddles you^^^^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ25BEOT6XI

  • SandyRavage

    Well who’s going to denigrate gay teenagers now?