July 23, 2014

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Sister: Admitted killer tortured animals, came from ‘dysfunctional’ home

Vincent Jackson sits with attorney J. Anthony Rich as evidence is presented in his trial on March 18. CHRONICLE FILE PHOTO

Vincent Jackson sits with attorney J. Anthony Rich as evidence is presented in his trial on March 18. CHRONICLE FILE PHOTO

ELYRIA — Admitted killer Vincent Jackson Jr. tortured animals when he was in his youth, his older sister testified Thursday.

Tiffany Sterling said she recalled one incident in which her brother and others stuck a firecracker inside of a cat and lit it. In another incident, she said, he poured gasoline on a cat and let it run away before setting the gas ablaze. She also said he put a noose around a cat’s neck and pushed it out a window.

Sterling’s testimony came in the third day of hearings in which defense attorneys have tried to portray Jackson’s troubled upbringing as a mitigating factor to a three-judge panel that will decide if Jackson should be executed for killing Gas USA clerk Qiana Walton during a 2008 robbery.

“I come from a dysfunctional home. I come from a (expletive) up home,” Sterling said.

Defense attorney J. Anthony Rich said after the hearing that he wasn’t overly surprised by Sterling’s testimony, which also included descriptions of domestic violence between her parents and drug trafficking and drug abuse in her youth in Chicago.

“He did things that aren’t consistent with somebody of sound mind,” Rich said.

Dr. John Fabian, a defense forensic psychologist, has testified that Jackson, 33, suffers from antisocial disorder with paranoid tendencies and ADHD, is addicted to drugs and alcohol and is in the “borderline intellectually functioning range.”

Assistant Lorain County Prosecutor Tony Cillo has called Fabian’s findings into question, suggesting that the psychologist cherry-picked the evidence he used to diagnose Jackson.

Fabian said he had “not intentionally” done so when compiling his 43-page report on Jackson’s mental health.

A mental health expert is scheduled to testify when the sentencing hearings resume Tuesday.

Jackson also is expected to make an unsworn statement to the judges Tuesday.

If he doesn’t receive a death sentence, Jackson will face life in prison.

Contact Brad Dicken at 329-7147 or bdicken@chroniclet.com.

  • Jenna Taella

    he came from a bad home??? boo hoo… remind him of that when you put the needle in his arm

    • LAB1660

      Too bad it’s a needle. We need Old Sparky so there’s some suffering.

    • Godfather

      Everyone should come on over to Mr Jackson’s FB page and sign the petition to save his life. We don’t need any more violence.

      • Bill

        Based upon your many comments if there were anyone that might be up in the air about the death penalty in this case I’m pretty sure you have swayed their opinion and it sure as hell isn’t for life in prison.

    • Godfather

      Because death penalty proponents have no other way to defend this policy, they cling unabashedly to the blunt simplicity of the ancient impulse that has always spurred the call for death: the desire for revenge. That was the bottom line of many debates on the floor of the state Senate and Assembly, to which I listened with great care during my tenure as governor. It came down to “an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.”

      If we adopted this maxim, where would it end? “You kill my son; I kill yours.” “You rape my daughter; I rape yours.” “You mutilate my body; I mutilate yours.” And we would pursue this course, despite the lack of any reason to believe it will protect us even if it is clear that occasionally the victim of our official barbarism will be innocent.

      It is believed that at least 23 people were wrongfully executed in the United States during the twentieth century. Twenty-three innocent people killed by the official workings of the state, but it is not called murder.

      • Larry Crnobrnja

        When copying something verbatim, it is appropriate to acknowledge them.

        • Godfather

          Are you upset Larry? I think you need to go watch the Waltons and take a lil nappy nap. Come back when you have something intelligent to contribute to the discussion.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Pointing out that you lack originality or the ability to put your thoughts into words does not mean I’m upset.

          • Godfather

            I beg to differ. Calling another person a mutt is being upset.

            Go take that nap now Larry.

          • Jenna Taella

            We don’t kill people but domestic violence against women is a ok as long as you’re using it in a joke????

            Shame on you “godfather”

      • Larry Crnobrnja

        “It is believed that at least 23 people were wrongfully executed in the United States during the twentieth century.”

        The only people who believe that are their mothers. No person executed in the United States over the past 100 years has ever been proven innocent. Your argument is a non sequitur.

      • Jenna Taella

        You stand and defend this monster… but you know in the back of your tiny mind that if you had something this animal wanted he would KILL YOU and take it…. Keep showing how stupid you sound “godfather” you make this all too easy on the rest of us.

        • Godfather

          Hey Jenna, Killing people is wrong.

          • Jenna Taella

            What’s wrong, can’t defend against my state of FACT?????

            POOR LITTLE BABY

          • Jenna Taella

            using pictures showing domestic violence against women is wrong too… but that didnt stop you now did it?????

          • Godfather

            You must be out of your mind.

    • Godfather

      I’m not going to sit here and brainlessly point out Jenna Taella’s flaws—we all know she has them—but I am going to say a little about how Jenna is a rotten, shrewish pill. For complete details, I refer you to my forthcoming book on the subject. I shall here mention only a few random items that may be new or especially interesting to you. For instance, certain facts are clear. For instance, I myself have to laugh when Jenna says that the world’s salvation comes from whims, irrationality, and delusions. Where in the world did she get that idea? Not only does that idea contain absolutely no substance whatsoever, but her assault on free speech was not mounted in a few weeks. Rather, it evolved gradually over a much longer period of time, barely perceptible in its origins and benefiting from a gradualism that provoked little awareness, much less any real reaction. That’s why it is now the time to ask the tough questions and not shy away from the tough answers.

      Jenna is the secret player behind the present, litigious political scene. She must be brought out from behind the curtain before it’s too late, before her torchbearers conduct business in an odious, diabolic way. Jenna’s subliminal psywar campaigns reek of solipsism. I use the word “reek” because Jenna’s secret passion is to distract people from making a serious analysis of the situation. For shame!

      Now, I am all for freedom of speech, but Jenna pretends to have the solution for everything. In reality, she creates more problems for the rest of us to solve. Consider, for example, how if I want to walk around with a mountain of pain and suffering welled up inside me, that should be my prerogative. I don’t need Jenna forcing me to. Her sophistries are so noisome that if allowed to go unanswered, their final cost would be incalculable. Whenever I hear Jenna’s pickthanks witter on about how Jenna would never dream of using threats of fiscal harm to coerce adversarial layabouts into getting as many people as possible to line up behind the geek-tent barkers at the latest and greatest carnival of Leninism, I interpret this poppycock as an implicit request for chemical treatment of their rampant (and generally unacknowledged) Asperger syndrome. Her inclinations are in every respect consistent with the school of shiftless thought that tends to send inerudite publicity hounds on safari holidays instead of publicly birching them. Clericalism, chauvinism, and antiheroism follow her footsteps. Wherever Jenna goes, such things are sure to sprout up. The implication is that she makes it sound like she is clean and bright and pure inside. That’s the rankest sort of pretense I’ve ever heard. The reality is that we are observing the change in our society’s philosophy and values from freedom and justice to corruption, decay, cynicism, and injustice. All of these “values” are artistically incorporated in one person: Jenna Taella. My eventual goal for this letter is to clarify and correct some of the inaccuracies present in Jenna Taella’s recommendations. I’m counting on you for your support.

      • Jenna Taella

        You’re just plain stupid.

        • Bob Sweatt

          Jenna,he is just copying and pasting crap. Ignored him.

          • Jenna Taella

            I am completely… His 5 paragraphs of absolute nonsense above are good for a laugh though.

          • Bob Sweatt

            He showed his ignorance for his reasoning why Jackson should spend the rest of his life in jail. Which again means either way he DIES in jail. Is so that Jackson can get help for his mental issues.

            Now someone getting help who will never be in the real world EVER AGAIN. is like putting a battery in a car without and engine. Make no sense what so ever.

          • Godfather

            Bobby, you are so wrong. I do not hide behind a computer.

          • michelle

            well if that’s you, you should.

      • Bill Love

        I love how u get on here and type insults about people who 1 you dont no a nd 2 think you are better then them when in reality you sir are a idiot who cant handle someone having a different opinion then yours. You must be a Democrat

      • kmzi

        Maybe genetics and culture has more to do with it than being dysfunctional. what do you think?

  • silkskin1960

    Why is it the killers always want someone to have HUMANE feelings about them when THEY clearly had NONE when they killed? Okay….he may have mental issues. Thats not his fault…but it wasnt that girl’s either but she died for it. Life in prison? So he can adjust to being a worse person than he is now???? I say no, put him out of his misery….we even do as much for a suffering animal.

    • Godfather

      He can not be RESPONSIBLE for his actions with all of his mental disorders. Shame on you silkskin1960. I bet your mother would be proud of you.

  • Larry Crnobrnja

    “He did things that aren’t consistent with somebody of sound mind,” Rich said.

    I have a solution; shove a firecracker up his butt, pour gasoline on him, light him on fire, push him out a window with a noose around his neck and then shoot him in the head with an AK-47 only AFTER he screams in pain for 10 minutes.

    • Godfather

      you are sick

      • Godfather

        Maybe we should dig around in your closet Larry.

        Ye who has not sinned cast the first stone.

        • Godfather

          It is strange that a nation would denounce the practice of murder by committing the very same act. By doing so, we’re essentially championing the right to life by taking it from others. True—as a whole, we are not murderers, and understandably refuse to be placed in the same category as someone like Ted Bundy. But to many opponents of the death penalty, even Ted Bundy should have been given life without parole. The fact that he murdered at least thirty people—for the mere reason that he enjoyed doing it—has no bearing on the hypocrisy, the flagrant dishonesty, of the declaration that such a person deserves to be killed because he had no right to kill.

          If the goal of any punishment, as stated above, is to teach us those things we should not do, then the justice system should more adequately teach the criminality of killing by refusing to partake in it.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            The goal of the punishment is to rid society of a monster. Unless the non-human is willing to take his/her own life, we have to do it for them.

          • Godfather

            But Larry, he is human. How will killing him make things all better? It won’t Larry.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Executing this non-human takes him off the planet. That makes life better for all of us.

            Keeping him alive in prison will make life harder on the guards that must watch him.

          • Godfather

            Wrong again Larry. That is the guards job. They do not care and its not harder on them. Please go take that nap and come back when you have something tangible to say.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            You are incorrect, troll.

          • Godfather

            You are entitled to your opinion Larry.

            As silly as it is, its yours.

            I hope you never reproduce Larry.

        • Bob Sweatt

          I will be more then happy to cast the First Stone of this animal.

          • Godfather

            He is not an animal. He is some mothers son.

            We see your true colors Bobby.

          • Bob Sweatt

            And the woman he killed IN COLD BLOOD was someone’s daughter. What else do you have??

          • Godfather

            And he should pay for that. He will receive life without parole.

          • Bob Sweatt

            I hope he get the death penalty just so I can come back to this thread and laugh in your ignorant face.

            The whole “feel sorry for him” might work on you and maybe the judges. But it sure the hell doesn’t work on law abiding people such as myself. An eye for an eye.

          • Godfather

            Well I guess you won’t be back on this thread then!

            Thats great news!

          • Bill Love

            I dont care ge murder someone and by the way his mother is a piece if sh.t just like hin

          • Godfather

            Do you speak your your mother that way?

          • Bill Love

            No just to dumb a$$ like you the guy already shoot one person in the head went to jail and dind not learn frm it he get out and does it again

          • tomfeher

            You’re wrong goober, I mean godfather. Humans are animals too

        • Larry Crnobrnja

          I’ve never MURDERED anyone, you mutt.

          • Godfather

            Such hateful words spew from your mouth like venom from a snake.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Commenting on your insignificance is not hateful.

          • Godfather

            Larry is the type of person that blames his shortcomings in life on others. Typical.

            Carry on Larry.

      • luvmytoaster

        Are you kidding me? Those are the exact same things that this low-life did! Why shouldn’t the same be done to him? Oh I can’t wait for him to arrive in prison, he’ll get what’s coming to him.

    • luvmytoaster

      Thank you Larry!

      • Godfather

        Perhaps you and Larry could have dinner together. You know, just two morons and a couple of big mac’s.

        • Bob Sweatt

          What’s wrong Godfather?? Did you have to get back to the fryer at Burger King?? You got quiet..

          • Godfather

            I am waiting for your comeback bobby.

            Why not rehabilitate?

    • ProudGranny

      *waving arms* I’ve got a match!!

  • michelle

    This is why we need strict laws and appropriate punishment for people who do this to animals. More often than not, they graduate to harming their fellow man. I am not saying these laws would prevent all murders, but it might help lessen occurances by having these types of malfunctioning people on the radar, possibly leading to psychiatric treatment early on.

    • Godfather

      What is the purpose of punishment? We take our lead from one major source, our parents—and they no doubt took their lead from their own parents. When your young child emulates what he just saw in a Rambo movie, you give him a stern lecture about what is real and what is not, what is acceptable in real life and what is not. When your child tries some crazy acrobatic move off a piece of furniture and hurts himself, you might spank him to be sure that he remembers never to do it again.

      So when the child grows up, breaks into a home, and steals electronics, he gets caught and goes to prison. His time in prison is meant to deprive him of the freedom to go where he wants anywhere in the world, and to do what he wants when he wants. This is the punishment, and most people do learn from it. In general, no one wants to go back. But if that child grows up and murders someone for their wallet or just for fun, and they are in turn put to death, they are taught precisely nothing, because they are no longer alive to learn from it. We cannot rehabilitate a person by killing him or her.

      • Bob Sweatt

        You want to save his life. Then you pay for him to sit in prison for the rest of his life.

        This guy has been in and out of jail his whole life. Apparently he hasn’t learn his lesson. But hey let’s put him back in jail and let all of us hard working people pay to keep this animal alive.

        If you are expecting me to feel sorry for this guy because he had a bad childhood. You are barking up the wrong tree. He is a hood rat that needs to be put down.

        • Godfather

          You alone will not be paying. You will pay your taxes like always. Its not like you have to pay some HUGE amount. Stop with the lies. It is our duty as human beings to show compassion.

          • Bob Sweatt

            Compassion. Wow now that’s funny. Just like this animal showed compassion when he shot the poor woman in the face. Right??

            Stop blaming society for everything. We all go through tough times in our childhood. Some of us choose a life of crime others choose to serve their country and do the right things in life.

            This animal made his choice. Now it is time to pay for it.

            Do you need a tissue for that bleeding heart of yours??

          • Godfather

            We cannot rehabilitate a person by killing him or her.

            I thought I made that very clear. It seems you have not been paying attention.

            If you can’t keep up with the conversation, I will have to make you go sit at the kiddies table, Bobby.

          • Bob Sweatt

            Dude enough with the insulting. Especially if you aren’t going to be man enough to use your real name.

            You can not rehabilitate someone who can’t seem to stay out of trouble. Which I said in another post. But apparently you choose to ignore that one.

          • Godfather

            How will killing someone rehabilitate them?

            Answer please?

          • Bob Sweatt

            ARE YOU NOT LISTENING?????

            This animal (and yes I will keep calling him that) is beyond and type of rehabilitation. Just like a rabbid dog. But this animal down.

          • Godfather

            But this animal down?

            How can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you can not do something we all learned in first grade?

            Spelling.

          • Bob Sweatt

            Ok douche. Explain how putting him in jail for the rest of his life teaches him a lesson?? Either your way or my way. HE STILL DIES IN A PRISON or prison hospital. How is that going to rehabilitate him??

          • Godfather

            Capital punishment is the most ­irreparable crime governments perpetuate without consequence, and it must be abolished. “We’re only ­human, we all make mistakes,” is a commonly used phrase, but it is tried and true. Humans, as a species, are famous for their mistakes. However, in the case of the death penalty, error becomes too dangerous a risk. The innocent lives that have been taken with the approval of our own government should be enough to abolish capital punishment.

          • Bob Sweatt

            How will life with parole make him a better person.

          • Bob Sweatt

            Now that’s now an answer. That’s you copyng and pasting something from a web site.

            Tell how what’s the difference being him being put to death or dying in prison.

            You talk about rehabilitation. How can your rehabilitate someone who will never see the outside world again??

          • Linda Groves

            Shooting someone in the face and killing them IS NOT A MISTAKE!!! He did it for no reason,and he should fry for it!!!

          • Bob Sweatt

            You going to answer me????

          • Godfather

            The death penalty violates the right to life.” Capital punishment contradicts our moral beliefs and claims of a fair and just government. The U.S. must join its political ­allies – including Europe, Scandinavia, Russia, South Africa, and most of Latin America – that have abolished the death penalty.

          • Bob Sweatt

            Quit copying and pasting stuff from websites. That’s just sad.

          • Godfather

            It can be said that the death penalty is the most overlooked form of government hypocrisy; we murder people who murder people to show that murder is wrong. It is this contradiction in policy that confuses criminals and undermines any crime deterrence capital punishment was intended to have.

          • Bob Sweatt

            Copy and paste again. Dude I thought you were better then that. Guess I was wrong.

            That still doesn’t show me the difference of him being put to death or dying in jail. That just shows me your view of the death penalty.

          • Godfather

            Capital punishment is immoral and a violation of natural rights. It is wrong for everyone involved: the persecuted innocent, criminals, victims’ families, and our nation. We need to replace the death penalty and capital punishment with life without parole, a safer and more inexpensive option. The death penalty does not guarantee safety for innocent victims, it does not follow the goals and promises of our nation, it does not effectively deter crime, and it does not give closure to victims’ families. Nothing good comes of hate, and nothing good can ever come from capital punishment. It cannot continue to be accepted by a nation that claims to have liberty and justice for all. The death penalty is murder on the sly and it’s dead wrong.

          • Bob Sweatt

            YAWN!!!! same crap, different post.

            So what website are you getting all this from??

          • Godfather

            s time to tell the truth about Bob Sweatt. Those readers of brittle disposition might do well to await a ride on the next emotionally indulgent transport; this one is scheduled nonstop over rocky roads. As soon as you’re strapped in I’ll announce something to the effect of how Bob wants to fund a vast web of noisome flag burners, disgraceful, amoral boors, and manipulative, oligophrenic agitators. Alas, that’s a mere ripple on the contumelious ocean of revisionism in which Bob will drown any attempt to develop a rational-empirical base for dialogue about his ventures. He’s planning to exploit issues such as the global economic crisis and the increase in world terrorism in order to instigate planet-wide chaos. Planet-wide chaos is Bob’s gateway to global tyranny, which will in turn enable him to tell us how to live, what to say, what to think, what to know, and—most importantly—what not to know. Implying that Bob serves as wisdom to the mighty and succor to the brave is no different from implying that advertising is the most veridical form of human communication. Both statements are ludicrous.

            Once people obtain the critical skills that enable them to think and reflect and speculate independently, they’ll realize that Bob has been trying for some time to sell the public on an anti-intellectualism-based government. His sales pitch proceeds both pragmatically and emotionally. The pragmatic argument: We should all bear the brunt of Bob’s actions. The emotional argument: A totalitarian dictatorship is the best form of government we could possibly have. As you can see, neither argument is valid, which should indicate to you that Bob is trapped in a vicious cycle. The more opposition to his tracts he faces, the more ignorant he becomes. The more ignorant he becomes, the more opposition to his tracts he faces.

            Unfortunately, Bob’s gloomy codices neglect to take one important factor into consideration: human nature. Bob’s allocutions are designed to trample into the mud all that is fine and noble and beautiful. And they’re working; they’re having the desired effect. If Bob believes that his campaigns can give us deeper insights into the nature of reality, then it’s obvious why he thinks that “the norm” shouldn’t have to worry about how the exceptions feel. Finally, if this letter generates a response from someone of opposing viewpoints, I would hope that the author(s) concentrate on offering objections to my ideas while refraining from attacks on my person or my intelligence. I’ve gotten enough of that already from Bob Sweatt.

          • stillsleepyeyes

            Nothing good comes from hate, but yet you spill it out on your own words here on this thread????

          • Bob Sweatt

            No you are not answering the question. one more time for the people in the cheap seats.

            EXPLAIN HOW THIS MAN SPENDING THE REST OF HIS LIFE IN JAIL ANY DIFFERENT THEN HIM BEING PUT TO DEATH. EITHER WAY HE DIES IN JAIL. HOW IS THIS REHABILITATING HIM???

          • Godfather

            He will get help, and we will not have to execute him.

          • Bob Sweatt

            You’re kidding me right?? Help for what?? TO spend the rest of his life in jail??

          • Bob Sweatt

            getting someone who will die in prison it like putting a battery in a car that doesn’t have a engine. It makes no sense

          • Godfather

            In this letter I intend to express my views about Bob Sweatt with gentleness and respect. Instead of focusing on why Bob’s moral immaturity is a perilous failing and an insult to the celebrated virtues of our ancestors, I would like to remind people that I contend I know why Bob has been hastening the destruction of our civilization. He considers it an interesting sociological experiment for determining whether people can be influenced to practice human sacrifice on a grand scale in some sort of anal-retentive death cult.

            Bob’s plenipotentiaries are quick to point out that because Bob is hated, persecuted, and repeatedly laughed at, he is the real victim here. The truth is that, if anything, Bob is a victim of his own success—a success that enables Bob to tell us how to live, what to say, what to think, what to know, and—most importantly—what not to know. The significance of this is that he has produced a large number of churlish casus belli. I’m sorry that I can’t give each of these the angry retort that it deserves, but I can say that Bob has been teaching young children to parrot such haughty, unreasonable sentences as, “All minorities are poor, stupid ghetto trash.” This assault on the innocence of childhood should be rejected in the harshest terms possible. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that Bob is an interesting character. On the one hand, he likes to place our children at imminent risk of serious harm. But on the other hand, there will be cruel things said on both sides of this issue when you least expect it. There’s nothing controversial about that view. It’s a fact, pure and simple. It was a fact long before anyone realized that Bob’s accusations always follow the same pattern. He puts the desired twist on the actual facts, ignores inconvenient facts, and invents as many new “facts” as necessary to convince us that his conceited, uncouth entourage is a benign and charitable agency.

            If it were up to Bob, schoolchildren would be taught reading, ‘riting, and racism. He believes with sincere conviction that his crimes are victimless. Providing a cornucopia of evidence to the contrary won’t faze him; he’s immune to any sort of reality check. That’s why we are observing the change in our society’s philosophy and values from freedom and justice to corruption, decay, cynicism, and injustice. All of these “values” are artistically incorporated in one person: Bob Sweatt. And now, to end with a clever bit of doggerel: United we stand. Divided we fall. Bob Sweatt’s unregenerate expostulations will destroy us all.

          • Bob Sweatt

            yawn!!!!! ANOTHER COPY AND PASTE.

          • Bob Sweatt

            You know you can’t explain the difference. So know you have the recourse of a weak mind and you will insult me. Very mature

          • stillsleepyeyes

            and what purpose would it be to rehabilitate someone that will not be released into public again?……….and wasn’t he rehabilitated the last time as he has gotten out of jail for a mere two weeks before he committed a crime (same as the last one).

          • tomfeher

            No but we can prevent them from ever doing it again. Since 70% of released criminals commit crimes

    • Bob Sweatt

      hey if you want to know where he is getting all of his comments. he is copying and pasting them from this site.

      http://deathpenalty.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001324

  • Defafan

    Death for this POS. Too bad he was even born.

    • Godfather

      Mr Jackson has some serious mental issues. That is clear.

      He should not be killed.

      Leszek Syski is a Maryland antiabortion activist who says that he “became convinced that the question of whether or not murderers deserve to die is the wrong one. The real question is whether other humans have a right to kill them.” He concluded that they do not after conversations with an opponent of capital punishment who asked, “Why don’t we torture prisoners? Torturing them is less than killing them.” Mr. Syski believes that “torture is dehumanizing, but capital punishment is the essence of dehumanization.”

      Richard Viguerie reached his positions on abortion and capital punishment independently, but does see a connection between the two issues: “To me, life is sacred,” Mr. Viguerie says. “And I don’t believe I have a right to terminate someone else’s life either way—by abortion or capital punishment.” Many others in the prolife movement have come to the same conclusion. They don’t think they have a right to play God, and they don’t believe that the state encourages respect for life when it engages in premediated killing.

      Camus was right: We know enough to say that some crimes require severe punishment. We do not know enough to say when anyone should die.

      • Defafan

        Please get a life TROLL. You are the Godfather of ranting and trolling.

        • Godfather

          Because I speak the truth and you can’t HANDLE the truth. Ok, we get your point.

          • Bill Love

            What truth

          • Godfather

            How will killing him rehabilitate him?

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            It isn’t about rehabilitation, so your argument is nonsense.

          • Godfather

            Murder is wrong. Since childhood we have been taught this indisputable truth. Ask yourself, then, what is capital punishment? In its simplest form, capital punishment is defined as one person taking the life of another. Coincidentally, that is the definition of murder. There are 36 states with the death penalty, and they must change. These states need to abolish it on the grounds that it carries a dangerous risk of punishing the innocent, is unethical and barbaric, and is an ineffective deterrent of crime versus the alternative of life in prison without parole.

          • stillsleepyeyes

            so if murder is wrong on living things…………….are you a vegetarian?

          • Godfather

            Our natural rights as humans, which cannot be taken away by the government, include the right to life. Humans are not cold metal coins that lose value; no act, no matter how heinous, can make a person less of a human being.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            We will have to agree to disagree.

          • Godfather

            I am writing this letter rather reluctantly. I do not wish to begin an incendiary debate about Larry Crnobrnja’s sound bites. However, Larry has recently made a few statements that I find disturbing to such a degree that I cannot remain silent. I will start this discussion by arguing that the most significant aspect of Larry’s mentality and its lack of refinement is the closeness of Larry’s way of thinking in general to the way that hate-filled, impractical deviants think in particular. Then, I will present evidence that many people are incredulous when I tell them that Larry intends to remove society’s moral barriers and allow perversion to prosper. “How could Larry be so uncompromising?”, they ask me. “It doesn’t seem possible.” Well, it is surely possible, and now I’ll explain exactly how Larry plans to do it. But first, you need to realize that he thinks we want him to reward those who knowingly or unknowingly play along with his refrains while punishing those who oppose them. Excuse me, but maybe that fact is simply inescapable to any thinking man or woman. “Thinking” is the key word in the previous sentence.

          • Bill Love

            I wont it will take a low life monster to hell where he belongs

          • Starryeyes63

            Are you the Godfather or Col. Jessup???

        • Starryeyes63

          or maybe is Judge Burge ………… Just saying

  • Godfather

    If the foreknowledge of any punishment is meant to dissuade the criminal from committing the crime, why do people still murder others? The US had a 2012 murder rate of 4.8 victims per 100,000—meaning that nearly 15,000 people were victims of homicide that year. Capital punishment does not appear to be doing its job; it doesn’t seem to be changing every criminal’s mind about killing innocent people. If it does not dissuade, then it serves no purpose. The warning of life in prison without parole must equally dissuade criminals.

    • Sis Delish

      If I recall, the Godfather made his mark by assassination…

    • Bob Sweatt

      It’s sort of funny. You use the name Godfather. But you sound more like a godmother

      • Godfather

        I see making fun of people and saying evil nasty things is par for the course for you Bobby armpit sweat.

        • Bob Sweatt

          At least I am using my real name. Not hiding behind a fake lame name.

          • Godfather

            That has no bearing on the subject Bobby.

            Please try to stay on topic.

            Thanks!

          • Godfather

            I want to make it perfectly clear what I do not intend to do in this letter before I carry on with what I do wish to accomplish with it. With this letter, I hope to ensure that the values for which we have labored and for which many of us have fought and sacrificed will continue in ascendancy. But first, I would like to make the following introductory remark: When I say that Bob Sweatt’s obiter dicta are contumelious, I mean it. I don’t mean that they remind me of something contumelious or that they have one or two contumelious characteristics. I mean that they are contumelious. In fact, the most contumelious thing about them is the way that they prevent people from seeing that Bob’s publicity stunts have a long and destructive lineage. In particular, they’re based upon all of the mendacious devices of the past: spheres of influence, balances of power, secret treaties, triple alliances, and, during the interim periods, appeasement of deconstructionism.

            On a television program last night I heard one of this country’s top scientists conclude that, “Bob has no trait of character that is lovely or admirable.” That’s exactly what I have so frequently argued, and I am pleased to have my view confirmed by so eminent an individual. Let me relate to you the most incontrovertibly true statement I’ve ever heard: “I am confident that genuine patriots will perceive the veracity of my statements regarding Bob’s eccentric remonstrations.” Whoever said that clearly understood that Bob accuses me of being a liar. The only proven liar around here, however, is Bob. Only a die-hard liar like Bob could claim that the rule of law should give way to the rule of brutality and bribery. The truth, in case you haven’t already figured it out, is that his cheerleaders believe that he is the arbiter of all things. It should not be surprising that they believe this, however. As we all know, minds that have been so maimed that they believe that the world is crying out to labor beneath Bob’s firm but benevolent heel can believe anything, especially if it’s false.

  • Godfather

    Capital punishment is immoral and a violation of natural rights. It is wrong for everyone involved: the persecuted innocent, criminals, victims’ families, and our nation. We need to replace the death penalty and capital punishment with life without parole, a safer and more inexpensive option. The death penalty does not guarantee safety for innocent victims, it does not follow the goals and promises of our nation, it does not effectively deter crime, and it does not give closure to victims’ families. Nothing good comes of hate, and nothing good can ever come from capital punishment. It cannot continue to be accepted by a nation that claims to have liberty and justice for all. The death penalty is murder on the sly and it’s dead wrong. And it makes me sick.

    • Bob Sweatt

      You would have more of an impact with your comment if they weren’t copied and pasted from some website.

      • Godfather

        I am angry. Angry that events have transpired that lead me to write this statement. And that’s why I feel compelled to say something about contentious moochers. Hey, it’s not my fault that one of the foul charlatans in Bob Sweatt’s employ has penned an extensive treatise whose thesis is that Bob would never even consider convincing innocent children to follow a path that leads only to a life of crime, disappointment, and destruction. Contrary to what that embarrassingly emollient hagiography asserts, if Bob gets his way, none of us will be able to put the kibosh on his campaigns. Therefore, we must not let Bob demonstrate an outright hostility to law enforcement. Bob, get a life!

        If Bob’s confreres had even an ounce of integrity they would treat the disease, not the symptoms. It is common knowledge that Bob is a ghastly liar. Let’s list some of Bob’s more muddleheaded lies: First, he claims that the kids on the playground are happy to surrender to the school bully. Second, he insists that we should cast our lots with warped self-proclaimed arbiters of taste and standards. And third, he wants us to believe that he is the most recent incarnation of the Buddha. I presented that list to get you to see that before Bob initiated a Chekism flap to help promote his liberticidal, randy bons mots, people everywhere were expected to love the Earth and everything that flowers and crawls upon it. Nowadays, it’s the rare person indeed who realizes that there is every indication that the law of self preservation dictates that I end Bob’s control over the minds and souls of countless people. So what’s the connection between that and Bob’s allocutions? The connection is that I want you to know that it is legitimate to have misgivings about callous bigamists who lead people towards iniquity and sin. Knowing, as they say, is half the battle. What remains is to deal with Bob appropriately.

        This brings me to my point. Bob keeps missing my point. More specifically, he keeps getting hung up on my words without seeing the underlying meaning. For example, when I say that it is obviously not conspiracism to suspect that Bob should keep his half-baked, know-nothing opinions to himself, Bob seems incapable of realizing that what I’m really getting at is that he wants us to believe that sooner than you think it will be considered cool to take rights away from individuals whom only Bob perceives as wild. Yes, things will be that way if we choose to believe that. I choose not to believe that. I choose to believe that there’s only one true drama queen around here, and Bob is the one wearing the crown.It’s not that I have anything against lowlifes in general. It’s just that there are two things we need to do right away. First, we need to lift our nation from the quicksand of injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Second—and this is critical so get out your highlighter—we need to fight Bob with everything we’ve got. Once those two things are accomplished we can finally start discussing how the last time I heard him ramble on in his characteristically bibulous blather he said something about wanting to seek vengeance on those unrepentant souls who persist in challenging his perversions. I feel sorry for the human race when I hear stuff like that. Before you read this letter, you might have thought that Bob Sweatt is clean and bright and pure inside. Now you know that he and other shiftless pissants continue to whine and pule about how their rights are so much more important than anyone else’s.

        • Bob Sweatt

          Dude just shut up. You have no point other then you hate the death penalty. Which has become painfully clear to all of us who have to respond to your nonsense.

          • Godfather

            Life is nonsense. Good job bobby.

            You are social sewage.

            Society’s rot and decay.

          • Starryeyes63

            It sounds like a judge’s opinion….. Just saying

        • ekwaykway

          Ummm….nice rant.

    • Bill Love

      Thats your opinion we understand now go make a pop tart and go back to your mothers basement

    • Starryeyes63

      and I bet you believe abortion is a choice……..

  • Bob Sweatt

    I found out what website Godfather (if that is his real name) is copying and pasting all of his comments from:

    http://deathpenalty.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001324

    • Godfather

      Great detective work bobby. But you are wrong. As usual.