July 23, 2014

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Lorain County law enforcement agencies receive armored military vehicles

Vehicle maintenance coordinator Grant Koba-Nelson takes the vehicle on a test drive through Lorain during a media tour. KRISTIN BAUER | CHRONICLE

Vehicle maintenance coordinator Grant Koba-Nelson takes the vehicle on a test drive through Lorain during a media tour. KRISTIN BAUER | CHRONICLE

LORAIN — Vehicles equipped to withstand gunfire and explosive attacks in the Afghanistan war are being repurposed to deal with Lorain County crime scenes.

The Lorain County sheriff and the Lorain Police Department this week each received a MRAP (Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected) vehicle.

The Lorain County sheriff and the Lorain Police Department this week each received a MRAP (Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected) vehicle.

The Lorain County Sheriff’s Office and the Lorain Police Department each were given one armored vehicle this week through the Ohio LESO Program. The vehicles, which weigh about 47,000 pounds, previously were used in the military, said Lorain police Capt. Roger Watkins.

The Sheriff’s Department and Lorain police applied for the vehicles through the program more than a year ago. They were told a month ago that they would receive an armored vehicle at no cost.

“No local funding (was used),” Lorain County Chief Deputy Sheriff Dennis Cavanaugh said, adding that the vehicles are valued at more than $700,000 each.

These vehicles, which are armored and were created for military use, have been repurposed for local law enforcement.

These vehicles, which are armored and were created for military use, have been repurposed for local law enforcement.

The vehicles can travel 65 mph and go on most kinds of terrain, police said. The inside of the vehicles can fit two stretchers, which can be used to treat victims wounded at a crime scene and transported to a hospital, Cavanaugh said.

While the steel plates on the side of the vehicles and much of the equipment inside have been removed since the vehicles were used in the military, Watkins said they still are capable of withstanding more gunfire than other vehicles in the police fleet.

Police plan to use them at crime scenes such as stand-offs, shootings and whenever a person is barricaded inside a building. Both vehicles are equipped with air conditioning and heat, Watkins said.

“I hope it is intimidating,” Watkins said.

“The outcome is to keep everyone safe,” Cavanaugh said.

Contact Anna Merriman at 329-7245 or amerriman@chroniclet.com. Follow her on Twitter at @AnnaLMerriman.

  • Sis Delish

    Looks like a good vehicle for a Food Truck.

  • stop ur whining part deux

    At least it is getting use. We left billions of dollars of vehicles when we pulled out of Afghanistan and Iraq because they were “too expensive to ship back”. ALthough I think a truck like this is over kill for a sheriff’s dept I am happy it is not sitting in a desert rusting.

    • Mark B

      This is just the militarization of our police, one step at a time , little by little , soon we will be in a police state like most 3rd world countries.

      • Simon Jester

        well said.

      • Mr. Wonderful

        Pass that blunt G. You had enough.

  • goofy

    Hey, now we can blame George W for this. Oh and these vehicles did cost us the taxpayers money just not now they were paid for already by our dollars.

  • tommtomm

    can anyone see the good in law enforcement instead of running their mouth like sis delish oh good for a food truck. police need vehicles like this because people with large guns. i worked as an armored car guard once and our trucks would only stop and handgun round.
    amd Mark b they are not militarizing the police its better to get it for free than pay for it. and keep people safe. so all you haters eat a fat one

    • Pablo Jones

      Was your armored truck ever stuck by gun fire?

      • tommtomm

        i see someone has jokes. no it never was fired upon but being around police military and firearms my whole life i can tell you that an ar15 round will go through 1/4 inch steel if hit more than once.

        • Pablo Jones

          But it was never shot at. How many times where the armored cars at the company you worked for shot at? I’m guessing rarely if ever. They are built for what they will encounter. How often are the police shot at? It does happen occasionally, but usually it is something that happens right away. This will save no lives.

    • stillsleepyeyes

      Free huh…………………just appeared from thin air……………….hmmmm…………keep drinking the kool-aid

      • tommtomm

        oh you got jokes. the military gives this stuff away to police depts. when i was an armored car guard we would donate our old trucks to police depts that couldnt afford a $100,000 vehicle because of welfare receipients running their mouths awww i sont want to pay for taxes to help the police but i want to eat steak everynight. look at the facts before you run your suck hole about how the police handle things. and how the goverment helps the police depts with equipment so its not sitting around.

        • stillsleepyeyes

          suck it up Kool-Aid boy (since you like calling people names on your defense) and where does the government get there money…………….hmmmmm………..check your facts before you try to belittle someone kool- aid sucker……….these vehicle’s are paid for by tax payers money guard boy…………so go back to your little stool in the corner and wait for your big bother to tell you what you are to do next………….HEY KOOL – AID………………..

        • stillsleepyeyes

          rotflmao………….hey kool aid

          • tommtomm

            wow this just shows what a white trash cousin f…cker u are. I be you live in colonal oaks or something. I love how everyone gets on here and runs their mouth. and money guard boy. I bet your one of the P.O.S that my guard boy money buys yours a your fat a….s wifes cigaretts and boose. go get a job ya fing bumb

          • stillsleepyeyes

            Hey kool- aid…………bahahahahahaha………………what a stand up kool- aid boy we have here………….you make my day with all your ged mentality ……………

    • Simon Jester

      Illiterate moron.

  • Pablo Jones

    It really says a lot about Lorain county and Lorain that they need a military armored vehicle.

    “The inside of the vehicles can fit two stretchers, which can be used to
    treat victims wounded at a crime scene and transported to a hospital”

    Wouldn’t an ambulance work better? By the time this thing shows up, with no medical equipment inside an ambulance would have been there treating the injured and on the way to the hospital. They don’t need to talk it up and say all the things they could use it for but never will. Just be honest. It’s free, it looks cool, and the kids will love it when we drive it in the parade.

    • Joe Smith

      An ambulance will not respond when the area is under fire, I think they are for if an officer gets hurt they can throw him/her in there and drive them to the hospital or where an ambulance can take over. But yea, it may be a bit much

  • GreatRedeemer

    Are you kidding? Free, um it’s not free. These things get like 3-5 MPG, and the
    maintenance is going to be a whole new budget item or levy. Now I’m sure we
    have some fine mechanics taking care a Crown Vic but who is qualified to care
    for an armored vehicle. Are the new Police SUV’s not sufficient.

    These things are a vehicle of war and by their very nature
    intimidating. I would argue this does not belong on the streets of Lorain
    county.

    • Pablo Jones

      Depends what neighborhood you are going through. It might just be necessary.

    • stillsleepyeyes

      The way the streets look they should have gotten tanks………..lol

    • golfingirl

      An “assault” rifle on wheels.

      I wonder if this will become the Mayor’s new city car?

    • tommtomm

      the stretchers are in there because you have maniacs that shoot at fire trucks and ambulances. and the trucks are just the same as a large truck just have to send to a desiel mechanic. when i drove armored trucks they got worked on by a desiel mechanic shop

      • Pablo Jones

        When has an ambulance or fire truck been shot at? I think Toledo had someone (fire marshals son I believe) shooting into a fire station, but nothing when they are responding to a call.

        Maybe police need their vehicles built to with stand radioactive fall out and poison gas attacks as well.

      • Simon Jester

        Don’t waste your words on this window licking troll…

        • Guest

          i got something u can lick!!!!

  • Bruce Tennant

    can we get a used guided missile frigate or a destroyer for the harbor patrol ? now THAT would be intimidating….kind of cool too…..keep those jet skis in line

    • stillsleepyeyes

      they actually have one in Sandusky, a frigate that is……………since 911

  • Gun toting cracker

    C’mon people, when they start going door to door to collect guns, their going to need this.

  • Phil Blank

    Wait until they have to fill the fuel tank, then ask for more money.
    Its over kill!
    A machine of war has no place in American cities, unless they plan on running it thru you home, or running you and your vehicle over.

    Is this the weapon they will use when they round us all up for the interment camps?

    This vehicle reminds me of the book I read that you can find in the Lorain and Cleveland library system and on Amazon, “Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America’s Police Forces”, by Radley Balko, the ISBN numbers you can find on Amazon.

    Might be a good idea if we pool are monies and buy a tank, just in case.

  • Simon Jester

    Just what they needed.

    ““I hope it is intimidating,” Watkins said.”

    Tell me again how we don’t live in a police state…

    • Spec440

      You may want to learn what a police state is first. We don’t live in a police state. Nice dramatic effect though. I bet you’re a blast at parties.

    • Bruce Tennant

      right….that’s the statement that gives me pause…. what happened to “serve and protect” ? I don’t see the word ” intimidate” in there….

  • Mr. Wonderful

    It will be expensive to operate, but hooray to Lorain county for getting a surplus MRAP :) It makes sense to have a mobile “everything proof” storage unit. If you put smoke launchers on the front and use the winch to open gates it would be perfect to take over the Terminus in WALKING DEAD without getting hurt.

    All roads lead to Terminus.

    • Bruce Tennant

      or ” Dead Reckoning” from Land of the Dead…..just equip it with fireworks launchers

  • dan from ohio

    the government has been busy militarizing the police forces around the country.Homeland security has bought 2.1 billion rounds of ammunition and just ordered another 25 million shotgun rounds.The government knows the economy is about to collapse due to overspending and taxation and is being trained to take on vets,tea party members,constitutionalists,gun owners and anyone who is against obama,s agenda

    • Guest

      Against the world governments agenda. I see your point though.

  • Phil Blank

    By the way, who is keeping track of the mileage?
    Or is it hours on the motor, in this case?
    I almost sure they all had to show-off and drive it home one night.
    And while we’re at it, what is it costing the county to insure this beast for road use and what is that costing us?
    And since this is a donation, do they have to pay any taxes on this war machine?
    What will that cost us?

    • ekwaykway

      Don’t forget maintenance and fuel too!

  • Phil Blank

    On and what about CDL licensing, or doesnit take more than that to drive it?

    • Simon Jester

      On the military level, it just requires a course and license. (I drove one)

      Civie side, it should rate at least a class b CDL.

  • Sis Delish

    It’s apparent that Lorain plans to invade Elyria.

    • golfingirl

      And steal their cold patch to fix the roads.

  • Scott Warner

    I have been in plenty of these all over the sands of Iraq and I know what they are capable of it is way too much to be using here it was designed as a personel carrier then modified slightly to be able to handle a stretcher in medivat cases it has seats that will carry 8 people plus a driver and navigator these MRAP’s are built with one thing in mind WAR! The body is specifically shaped to deflect an explosion from the bottom for example an IED or land mine armored to protect against small arms fire with option of placing the up armor kit on it which would basically make it indistructable for anything your average civilian could toss at it they are called MRAP’s Mine Resistant Ambush Protected just the name alone should tell you it’s not needed here these things are built for battle and nothing else just remember how cool you think it is when the militarized police forces are rounding you all up and sending you to camp to get your RFID chip injected into your arm believe what you want but to me too many things just don’t add up right and I feel scared for what the future holds

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    • Simon Jester

      Well played.

      • Starryeyes63

        Thank you

  • Michael Campbell

    Lorain county is bad, but surly it is not to the point where we need armored vehicles. This is not the favelas in south america!!

    • ekwaykway

      It’s getting pretty close!

  • Oneday67

    It is strange that the sheriff’s mechanic in the top picture is wearing Army fatigues behind the wheel of that vehicle.

  • JoyceEarly

    Can you say “Police State”?

  • Really?

    Nothing to see here folks. Move along. In his own words. If you haven’t seen or heard this….well I wouldn’t be surprised. http://youtu.be/Tt2yGzHfy7s

    • Really?

      And that’s how Liberty dies….with thunderous applause. No doubt those sheeple sycophants behind him never even realized what he’d just said.

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  • Conservator440

    What in the blue blazes of Murgatroid does civilian safety forces need a TANK??????????????????????????

    • EyemNotFree

      Delbert Belton was a crack dealer