August 29, 2014

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Two OVI checkpoints to be held in Elyria

The Ohio State Highway Patrol and the Elyria Police Department will hold two OVI checkpoints tonight in Elyria.

The checkpoints, held from 6 p.m. to 2 a.m., will be on Middle Avenue at 6th Street, and Cleveland Street near state Route 57.

The checkpoints are funded by federal funds and are planned to deter and intercept impaired drivers. They will also be held in conjunction with nearby saturation patrols to aggressively combat alcohol-related injury and fatal crashes.

  • SniperFire

    Like or hate such checkpoints, why on earth is the Federal government funding such mundane law enforcement tasks when they are running trillion dollar deficits which must be paid back on the backs of future generations of Elyrians?

    • Mark B

      What I would like to see is how much this costs and how many people they catch, so we could see how much it cost to make each bust . I bet it would be a interesting number.

      • Pablo Jones

        Usually they get maybe 1 or 2 drunks, a couple people with drugs, and about a half dozen for misc. warrants. If they really wanted to catch drunk drivers they would watch the outside of a bar.

        • franksnbeans

          I was gonna say the same thing. Especially in drunk Elyria

      • jz

        They are on duty anyway, so we are paying them for the shift they are working. What is the difference? How much is a life worth? Get the feds out of it and let the cops do their jobs correctly, like, oh wait, maybe “probable cause”? But you know we are all very unsafe and that damn constitution keeps getting in the way.

    • jz

      Wow, on this one we agree. The Federal government has been overriding states rights for decades now. And the Supreme courts have allowed it. To me it is less about the money and more about the constitution. But you know us Libertarians. Bunch of druggie wierdos.

  • Mark B
    • Pablo Jones

      By driving into the check point you have already given your consent to be stopped. Having that little piece of paper will do nothing for you. If you were drunk and you smelled of alcohol or had slurred speech they would still proceed to do the sobriety tests on you. And if you contest it in court the piece of paper would still do nothing for you.

      • Sis Delish

        So if you turn around because you do not give consent you are pulled over for doing an illegal maneuver in a vehicle. Your logic is flawed as well as the law.

        • Pablo Jones

          What is flawed is thinking that paper will help you in any way. I wasn’t giving any logic or reasoning I was stating what will happen. Weighing all your hopes on that piece of paper carries as much weight as that paper. If you make a U-turn in the middle of the road you increase the chances of being pulled over. If you turn down a side street you won’t get pulled over.

          • Sis Delish

            They position them to make it so there are no side streets to escape to.
            We weigh all our hopes on a piece of paper, it is called the Bill of Rights.

          • Pablo Jones

            Well Kelvin below saw it and was able to turn.

            And in a generation no young person will be able to read it since they don’t teach cursive. But if you read carefully I said that paper referring to the paper they described in the video. If people think if by carrying that piece of paper is the equivalent of a get out of jail free card they will be in for a rude awakening.

          • Sis Delish

            It is merely saying what they do not have the level head to say.
            He was able to turn because they were incompetent in setting up a OVI checkpoint, maybe due to inexperience.

          • Pablo Jones

            Even if they were able to say it, if they were saying it with slurred words or smelled of alcohol they would still have to do the field sobriety tests or breathalyzer test. That paper will stop nothing from happening.

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  • Scout

    So now that it is advertised people will just find different routes. Why not make the signs bigger and not advertise? Just asking???

    • SniperFire

      It would be interesting to know who released this information to the newspaper in advance, and what the motivation was to tell the drunks and stoners to take another route tonight. My guess would be the Elyra PD.

      Hopefully, somebody questions the motive they have for wasting Federal funding.

      • Oneday67

        I believe by law they have to give public notice. If they didn’t have to I’m sure they wouldn’t. This is some info from the OSHP website.
        “The first and perhaps the most important requirement for the establishment of a sobriety checkpoint is that the site of the check must have a long term history of alcohol-related
        crashes and/or incidents of impaired driving. This test establishes the need for these extraordinary deterrent efforts. After the agency establishes the need, administrators must begin the process of planning and organizing this rather substantial undertaking. Once the logistical, staffing, and operational needs have been addressed, the actual process of conducting a sobriety checkpoint can begin.
        About a week before the checkpoint is conducted, public notice is given that the checkpoint will be established. At this stage of the public advisory process, it is only necessary to provide a general date, time, and location for the event. Although general, it has begun to focus on the problem area. A final advisory is issued by a checkpoint administrator a few hours before the site is established and the screening for alcohol or drug-impaired drivers begins. This advisory gives the exact location and tells when the checkpoint operation will begin and end.
        About an hour or two in advance of the establishment of the checkpoint, the officer who will be in charge of the operation conducts a briefing with the police officers who
        will operate the various elements of the checkpoint. At this briefing, which is required by the judicial guidelines, the officer-in-charge will give an overview of the operation of the checkpoint, provide each checkpoint officer a clearly defined set of operational objectives, and emphasize all the procedures needed to make the checkpoint as safe and efficient as possible. The safety of the public and the officers in the check zone must be of paramount importance to everyone involved.”

      • GreatRedeemer

        They are required to announce it. Otherwise it would be just like show me your papers stops.

      • Nick Mascari

        They are required to announce the stops. Otherwise it is a violation of 4th amendment, per court rulings.

      • Pablo Jones

        The reasoning is, if they post that there will be a checkpoint publicly then you know about it. And if you know about it and drive into/through it you have given your consent for them to stop you.

        I guess in the future they will post that there will be random police inspections of homes in a neighborhood. If you open your door to them you are giving them consent to search your home.

    • jj

      Maybe they think drunks can’t read?

  • GreatRedeemer

    They need the Prosecuter and Judge on site to issue warrants for the no refusal blood test, otherwise everyone refuses the test and gets off.

    • jj

      They use the Bernie defense, “I had a lot of concussions”…..

    • Mark B

      Sure , why don’t we just do away will all of out rights , it seems we are becoming a police state as it is . next we could set up check points to see if you have paid your taxes. Then another to see if you have purchased Obama Care.

  • Sis Delish

    Can violators pay fines using EBT Cards?

  • Jean Vincent

    to mark b it is not a persons right to drink and drive maybe you would think different if you had to lose a loved one

    • Mark B

      I don’t drink and it is my right to have free travel without being harassed by police .

      • jj

        If you’re not doing anything wrong, then you should have nothing to worry about.

        • Mark B

          If your doing nothing wrong I suppose it is ok for the police to randomly search your wife’s underwear drawer too !

          • jj

            Try to stay on topic, Mark, this is about getting drunk drivers off the roads. But to answer your question, my wife doesn’t wear underwear.

          • It has to stop

            Lol

          • Mark B

            wife or husband ?

          • jj

            Oh no, a scathing insult… I guess that was you’re intention…

        • Pablo Jones

          Like if those people that had all that weed hidden in their tire were doing nothing wrong (because they didn’t know it was there).

        • Jake Willis

          If you’re not doing anything wrong, you shouldn’t have to be detained by police. If they really wanted to catch drunks, wait outside the bars!

      • Jean Vincent

        then go a different route if you feel harassed many lives are taken by drunk drivers it could be you someday let them do there job

        • Pablo Jones

          More lives are taken by old drivers. There should be mandatory drivers tests for people 65+ every 4 years when they renew their license.

          As for getting drunk drivers off the street, the police would catch more of them if they just watch people leaving a bar.

          • Nick Noneya

            Careful, you will upset the senior population. I am 75 and have had one (1) speeding ticket, and that was because I didn’t slow down soon enough coming off the 4 lane of Rt. 10 by Oberlin. ‘course I have only driven once in that 10 years~! :-)

        • Mark B

          More lives are taken from texting and playing with your cell phone , when are they going to disable all cell phone operation except 911 calls when the phone is moving

          • Pablo Jones

            How will I watch the latest Game of Thrones episode on the way to work then?

          • It has to stop

            Show the numbers on that Einstein. Wait, I’ll do it for you.
            While drunk driving fatalities are on the decline and texting while driving fatalities are on the rise there is still a huge gap between the two.
            Drunk driving fatalities in 2011, 9,296.
            Texting while driving fatalities in 2011, 3,331.
            I would think that programs like these OVI checkpoints along with the lowering of the blood alcohol content is the reason for the drunk driving fatalities decline.
            Those numbers are from the NHTSA by the way. Try doing your homework before your ignorant comments.

        • It has to stop

          I agree whole heartily Jean. You don’t know me but know you and your family continue to be in my prayers.

          • Jean Vincent

            thanks

  • Jeff Baker

    Policed state thanks for the info

  • golfingirl

    Are they bringing in the Armored Vehicle from Lorain?

    • Pablo Jones

      Lorain doesn’t like to share their toys. I bet Elyria is kicking themselves for not applying for one too.

  • Kelvin Gray

    Wow!!! It wasn’t to hard to go around the points. I knew nothing of it but when I saw the lights I just turned and went a different direction. Plus they were on West Ave not Middle Ave when so them Friday night. I don’t even drink, just didn’t wanna be bothered with the hassle that’s all. So why wouldn’t a drunk person or anyone else do the same when they see the flashing lights up ahead?