August 20, 2014

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What should you do if confronted with a gunman?

 

Jon Meis is taken from the scene by medics after he pepper sprayed and tackled a shooting suspect at Seattle Pacific University, in Seattle on June 5. (AP Photo/seattlepi.com, Joshua Trujillo, File)

Jon Meis is taken from the scene by medics after he pepper sprayed and tackled a shooting suspect at Seattle Pacific University, in Seattle on June 5. (AP Photo/seattlepi.com, Joshua Trujillo, File)

When a gunman menaced a small Seattle college, a student pepper-sprayed the attacker, ending his rampage. Police say his actions probably saved lives.

When an armed couple who had already killed two police officers entered a Las Vegas Wal-Mart, a shopper with a concealed weapon tried to confront them and got killed. Police say he died “trying to protect others.”

And when an Oregon high school student fatally shot a classmate and wounded a teacher, the teacher made his way to an office and alerted officials. Police say he most likely prevented additional deaths.

These scenarios, which all unfolded over the past week, demonstrate the risky and potentially life-saving decisions faced by anyone in the path of an active shooter. At a time when shootings seem to happen almost daily, The Associated Press asked experts: How should Americans react if someone opens fire at work, at school or at a theater or store?

Q: What should people do in an active-shooter situation? 

A: Bo Mitchell, president of 911 Consulting, tells his clients that their first goal is to run away. “If you see this happening far enough away from you that you don’t have to be part of it, we want you to run,” Mitchell said. If that’s impossible, he advises hiding in a room and locking the door. “Find a place that you can close up and barricade so a guy with a gun can’t come after you.”

Fighting back is a last resort. “You want to act with speed and total surprise, and you want to get a fire extinguisher or a pair of scissors or a chair and go after that guy because you have no other choice.”

The Department of Homeland Security also suggests fighting back, but only as a final option. “Act with aggression. Improvise weapons. Disarm him. And commit to taking the shooter down, no matter what,” the department advises in an online video.

Q: Has that advice changed in recent years?

A: No, Mitchell says. “The threat defines the response. These kinds of threats have been going on for a century or more, but the number of events is going up and that’s troubling,” he said.

In each of the recent cases, people had to make swift choices about their own safety and protecting others around them.

When the gunman opened fire June 5 at Seattle Pacific University, killing one student and wounding two others, a student building monitor named Jon Meis rushed out of his office, pepper-sprayed the gunman, grabbed the weapon and hid it in his office. The monitor and another student held the gunman down until police arrived.

After the Las Vegas couple shot and killed the officers at a pizza parlor, they went to a nearby Wal-Mart and were confronted by a shopper carrying a concealed weapon. Joseph Wilcox was killed by the wife as he attempted to stop the husband. The husband was later fatally wounded by police, and the wife committed suicide.

A 15-year-old shot and killed a classmate Wednesday at a high school in a suburb of Portland, Oregon, and wounded teacher Todd Rispler, who was able to get to the school office and alert others to the situation. The gunman took his own life.

Q: How can people expect police to respond?

A: Before the 1999 shooting at Columbine High School, police response to mass shootings was slower and more deliberate. Patrol officers would often wait for a more heavily armed SWAT team to arrive and clear a building. But with active-shooter situations on the rise, authorities have changed their tactics to respond faster.

Now more local officers know how to fan out in teams to quickly eliminate the threat of a gunman, said Thomas Aveni, executive director of the New Hampshire-based Police Policy Studies Council.

Paramedics and firefighters are receiving training, too, “to respond as quickly as possible, rather than wait for additional resources.”

Unlike 20 years ago, school-resource officers are now commonly stationed in high schools and middle schools, with the goal of stopping problems before they become deadly, Aveni said.

Since the Aurora, Colorado, theater shooting in 2012, officers have been carrying “go bags” containing medical supplies such as tourniquets and gauze, so they can also act as paramedics, said John Firman, director of research for the International Chiefs of Police Association.

  • Phil Blank

    That’s it?

  • golfingirl

    “You want to act with speed and total surprise, and you want to get a……. pair of scissors or a chair and go after that guy because you have no other choice.”

    A pair of scissors? You can’t be serious?

    A chair? What are you going to do with a chair? Ask the shooter if you can have a seat before he slaughters you?

    It is at moments like these that you realize getting your CCW permit was one of the best decisions you ever made in your life, because it may very well save it.

    That is, unless you are in an area which prohibits it, then you just beg for your life!

    • Bob

      Um you can kill someone with a pair of scissors. Try throwing them at the gunman.

      Pick up the chair and throw it.

      Having a CCW didn’t save the live of the guy at the Wal-Mart. But he did save lives.

      • golfingirl

        Yes he did save lives, though he lost his own. He is a hero.

        Given the choice, between a chair, pair of scissors or a S&W 1911sc in .45cal, I am thinking the wise person would choose the S&W nearly 100% of the time when faced with that situation.

  • Bob

    Well if someone had a gun pointed at me. I will tell you I would have that gun away from them before they even knew what happen. Then I would proceed to pistol whip them with their own gun. But that is close quarter combat.

    If you are going to throw the scissor and then just stand there. You deserve to be shot. You throw the scissor then dive behind something or run. It’s call a DISTRACTION. If you are good enough with the scissors. you might just stab them in the eye with them.

    So everywhere you go you will always have a gun on you?? Because I know a lot of gun free zones. I am just thankful for my military background and all the self defense course I took.

    • golfingirl

      Good luck with the scissors, I’ll keep my gun!

      It is okay to disagree, but I also think you have to see it from a woman’s perspective.

  • alreadyfedup1

    Have a weapon. Keep concealed until you can take the kill shot. Only report will be the one you make.

    • golfingirl

      Or always carry a pair of scissors with you.