September 19, 2014

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Residents protest shooting of raccoon in North Ridgeville

Marcia Pruchinsky, left, of Lorain Pooch Patrol, and Denielle Hall, of Vermilion with Pet Rescue and Lorain Pooch Patrol, hold signs at a protest against North Ridgeville humane officer Barry Accorti at North Ridgeville City Hall. STEVE MANHEIM/CHRONICLE

Marcia Pruchinsky, left, of Lorain Pooch Patrol, and Denielle Hall, of Vermilion with Pet Rescue and Lorain Pooch Patrol, hold signs at a protest against North Ridgeville humane officer Barry Accorti at North Ridgeville City Hall. STEVE MANHEIM/CHRONICLE

NORTH RIDGEVILLE — In a similar but far more subdued version of the firestorm of protest leveled at the city last June following the shooting of five kittens by humane officer Barry Accorti, about a dozen people criticized his actions in last week’s shooting of a baby raccoon during Monday night’s City Council meeting.

“This should have never gotten to this point,” Michelle Kearsey, a Stone Lake Drive resident told city officials and 40 to 50 people who attended.

“This is the second time in a year,” Kearsey said as she cited the need for a change in policies governing the handling of nuisance animal calls. “That raccoon could have been moved. This officer has shown no regard for the children of this community.”

STEVE MANHEIM / CHRONICLE Denielle Hall, of Vermilion, with Pet Rescue and Lorain Pooch Patrol, holds a sign  Monday at a protest.

STEVE MANHEIM / CHRONICLE
Denielle Hall, of Vermilion, with Pet Rescue and Lorain Pooch Patrol, holds a sign Monday at a protest.

Just before she spoke, Police Chief Michael Freeman announced his department would change its policy regarding the handling of so-called nuisance animals, which include raccoons, and no longer dispatch (shoot) animals at or near dwellings or in front of anyone.

Instead, animals will be trapped or gathered up and removed to another location to be taken care of, Freeman said.

A number of people including Pat Fogo of the Lorain Pooch Patrol said she was happy for the change in policy, “but I’m unhappy at what it’s taken to get to that change.”

Fogo claimed Accorti has been involved in numerous incidents involving the shooting of animals. “People are tired of it. That animal was defenseless and in a cage. It’s like the kittens.”

Just before the floor was opened for the public comment portion of the meeting, Councilman Dennis Boose, D-2nd Ward, made a motion to suspend Council rules to allow questions of a general nature to be asked and answered, but the move died for lack of a second.

Before the meeting, about 15 people, some holding protest signs, cheered as motorists honked and waved their support while driving near the City Hall complex off Avon-Belden Road.

The group held signs that read: “This is a neighborhood — not a shooting range!,” “It’s time for a change — start with firing Accorti,” and “Accorti — the Inhumane Officer.”

Protesters included members of animal activist groups that also protested the kitten shootings a year ago by Accorti, a retired police officer and one of two humane officers employed part-time by the city.

Corinne Jaenke, an Elyria resident and member of the Lorain Pooch Patrol, said that while she understands the need to get rid of diseased or dangerous animals, she favors Accorti being dismissed. “He’s trigger-happy and would shoot anything.”

Jaenke voiced concerns over bullets potentially ricocheting when fired at animals and hitting others.

Freeman told the audience the raccoon was caught and in a cage (trap) requested by a Root Road man and shot with low-powered, .22 caliber ammunition from a handgun.

Tim Sherrill, left, shown with his son Chopper , 10, was the North Ridgeville resident who alerted the public after Accorti shot a raccoon in his yard.

Tim Sherrill, left, said that Accorti shot a baby raccoon in front of his son, Chopper, 10.

Freeman again said that Accorti and the property owner stated they did not see any children when the raccoon was shot.

Tim Sherrill, the neighbor of the Root Road man, who first made the incident known when he contacted local media, insisted Accorti shot the baby raccoon in front of his 10-year-old son, Chopper, and some friends.

Freeman said Accorti followed the law and disposed of the baby raccoon safely following a request by the property owner.

Freeman said he had not experienced any incidences of injuries to anyone in 20-plus years of dispatching animals in the city.
He promised to look into any instances of officers accused by residents of acting recklessly in such matters.

If police are called to handle nuisance animal complaints — the department handled more than 800 last year — they will still be authorized to dispose of them by gunshot if they lack proper equipment to remove them, or cannot get needed equipment such as a trap in a timely fashion, Freeman said.

“I’ve taken a lot of grief over this,” Freeman said.

The meeting also heard from Jeff Dorson of Alley Cats Allies, the nation’s biggest advocacy organization for cats.

The Maryland-based organization sent a representative to protest the shooting of kittens in 2013.

Dorson, who is from New Orleans, again called for Accorti’s dismissal as he called the city’s nuisance animal policies “out of touch with other parts of the country” where law enforcement agencies make headlines for saving and helping animals.

During his regular report, Mayor David Gillock said he has been aware of “a lot of support” in the city for Accorti.

Contact Steve Fogarty at 329-7146 or sfogarty@chroniclet.com.

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  • stillsleepyeyes

    maybe all the wildlife in Ridgeville should trap the people and relocate them………………..they where there first before the people came and tore down their habitat…………………….they make no provisions for the animals when they build thousands of houses……………..at least the wildlife didn’t flood out the land when they had control…………………….

  • Otter

    Dosen’t the home owner have some responsibility here? He did get the trap, caught the raccoon, and it was shot at his request, knowing there were children present. I am not defending Accorti, or the city’s policy, just wondering why the “home owner” has no accountability for his part.

    • luvmytoaster

      But it wasn’t the homeowners trap – he requested it and the city provided it. I can only guess that everyone involved knew what the outcome would be.

      Did the homeowner know that there would be children playing at that exact time?

      • Otter

        Well, since they were playing with his grandson, in his yard, one would think he knew they were there. Does it really matter who “owned” the trap…..I wonder who baited the trap?
        I have had raccoons, skunks, turkeys, groundhogs, deer, and ducks in my yard, I find that a big dog keeps them from staying too long.

      • Shellie Ferancy Kearsey

        I just hope that you don’t have children near your property when the so called excellent marksmen shoots an animal in your yard. You could be his next victim as he is not so great at aiming at his target. 2 shots for an animal in a cage. Great job Accorti, you stink!!!!

  • Steven

    So, the boy will never be a hunter… or will become one. Funny how we can watch it on TV but not see it in real life.
    I’ll be none of these people have ever had a raccoon problem. Nasty intelligent creatures… who find their way back home.
    That said, live trap it and take it to a nature park for release. (Gosh, I hope I am not committing a crime releasing a wild animal in a wild park…but there probably is some ordinance. Would’nt want to introduce rabies 5 miles down the road…)

    • HankKwah

      (6) It shall be unlawful to fail to euthanize nuisance wild animals trapped or taken whose injuries affect normal biological or physiological functions.

      (3) It shall be unlawful to fail to euthanize, or release on site, any nuisance raccoon, skunk, beaver, coyote, fox, or opossum that is captured, trapped or taken.

      I saw a law concerning releasing raccoons in metroparks being illegal, but I can’t find it now. The above was found at http://codes.ohio.gov/oac/1501%3A31-15-03

    • Shellie Ferancy Kearsey

      I understand the need to rid the area of the animal, my thought is that you don’t have to shoot an animal in front of kids. He’s done it twice now and I think it is time for him to sit in his yard in Wellington and shoot animals who wander into his yard. Maybe then someone will do something about this gun crazed idiot!!!!

    • Nicole Clarbourne

      Actually according to turtle man on call of the wild man raccoons will not come back to a previous location if they are relocated at least five miles away .. just saying

  • Shellie Ferancy Kearsey

    The home owner asked that the animal be removed from his property after it was trapped. He did the responsible thing and unfortunately Accorti again shot an animal in front of kids. I spoke to the young boy who witnessed this despicable act and I applauded him for telling the truth about what happened. Accorti should be relieved of his position.

  • Bonnie Pickett

    I would bet this 10 year old shoots zombies or bad guys on his game system everyday. THe father stated he owns guns – does he have them to shoot wild animals? I don’t know this officer but it seems to me he is damned if he does or damned if he doesn’t. Common sense isn’t so common anymore. Wild animals carry disease no matter how small they are.

    • luvmytoaster

      Thank you Bonnie!

    • Shellie Ferancy Kearsey

      A game system is just that a game. Our kids are subjected to enough violence every day. Why would you think that shooting an animal in front of a child is OK???

      • luvmytoaster

        Yes it is only a game – but they get better and better at imitating life, some people can’t tell the difference.

      • Sis Delish

        Okay, watch the Beverly Hillbillies… Granny is always fixin’ up Viddles with Varmits.

        Is that too harsh as well?

        • luvmytoaster

          LOL, too funny!

        • Amanda Risdon

          lol! I love it!!!!

  • Tom

    Lethal injection for all wild animals! This is insanity. Do you people have nothing better to do?! Explain to your children that some animals carry disease or kill livestock and have to be put down. This wasn’t a rogue humane officer killing family pets! Get it together Ridgeville.

    • Rae Ingram

      Ammunition is getting pretty expensive these days. I ask what did the father expect when he called the police. Fairy dust the critter? I am defending Officer Accortis’ actions. However Ridgevillianites you cant get rid of all the offending animals in your new developements. Deal w/ it. You after all wanted the “country” surroundings. Are you going to find the crickets annoying and they are next?

      • Shellie Ferancy Kearsey

        I don’t have a problem with removing the animal, nor do I expect it to be destroyed with “fairy dust”. There is a time and place to carry out the duties, but certainly not in front of children.

        • Rae Ingram

          Responsible parent would have had the children in the house long before the Police arrived. You can shield them only to a point.

          • Tom

            I totally agree. The kids should have been in the house to begin with.

          • Shellie Ferancy Kearsey

            The problem is that they don’t set aside an exact time to be there. The children were in the yard next door. How was the person in charge of the children to know that a trained SWAT team member would forget the cardinal rule of clearing the area before you take a shot. Again, you choose to place the blame on everyone except the one person who is supposed to know better!!!!!

        • Sis Delish

          If that’s your argument, then the educators should all be banned from teaching history… the way they slaughter that subject is a crime!

  • GreatRedeemer

    Oh pish tosh.

  • Oneday67

    These are destructive, nasty little creatures. I’m currently under attack by 3 young ones. Last night two were on the back deck and one on the front porch digging out potted flowers and breaking other pots and lawn ornaments. I’ll give them one or two more days to move on or I will have to implement plan A. In the past I never had to move on to plan B.

    • HankKwah

      I wouldn’t wait that long. If they have been back to your house numerous times, that’s a couple times too many.

  • reallyoldfarts

    Look at the expression on this poor kids face! He REALLY doesn’t want to be there! He’s being subjected to more cruelty at this protest than when the raccoon was shot!

    • Shellie Ferancy Kearsey

      I personally spoke to the young boy in question. He was polite and he wanted to be there to tell his side of the story. P.S. He is on the side of the protestors. He was frightened by the shooting. Next North Ridgeville will be getting the bills for therapy for the children traumatized by Accorti’s actions. What will you say then???

      • stillsleepyeyes

        Therapy………… really………….they name him chopper…………..

        • Shellie Ferancy Kearsey

          Who are YOU to judge what someone names their child??? And yes therapy, these children having witnessed a traumatic incident can have PTSD. It is a published fact, if you are able to read.

          • Spec440

            Haha. Man, you need to get a grip. PTSD. I really hope you aren’t serious. The kid would be fine if not for all of you and his lying father.

          • stillsleepyeyes

            And who are you to relocate all these animals because you don’t like them where they are………..and seems your judging everyone here…..get a life…………..

      • Sis Delish

        Wow. This kid would have never survived the 50s or 60s with Daniel Boone ‘Coon Hats and such…

        Therapy? LOL.

        • Shellie Ferancy Kearsey

          Therapy is no laughing matter.

          • Simon Jester

            Yes, it is. You’re out of control, and it’s humorous.

      • mudlovinmom

        He should be more tramatized by being called “Chopper” by his own father! Who does that! Father of the year of course! Teach your kid to respect authority and not challenge it. I’m so glad my boys are hunters and understand the circle of life. I’d rather have my boys out in the woods hunting than hanging out in town causing trouble. This father should be embarrased and ashamed for not teaching his kid about life and how sometimes animals have to be put down do to illness and disease.

        • Shellie Ferancy Kearsey

          Really?? That child respected authority. He was taken to the police department to meet with the Chief. He was polite and told his story. The problem is that the city keeps defending someone who should never be licensed to carry a weapon.

  • stop ur whining part deux

    Attention: ALL of you morons that are calling for this man’s head need to take an EXTREMELY long walk off a very very short pier.

    Those feral cats last year NEEDED to be exterminated. If you want to blame anyone blame the TERRIBLE pet owners that refuse to take care of their animals in the first place. Feral cats started out as pets people! It is the HEIGHT of irresponsibility to simply open your door and let your cat roam the neighborhood spreading disease and spreading their waste in other peoples lawns.

    My dog has gotten sick from cat crap so now every time i see a cat in the road I floor it trying to end its existence.

    Either take care of your pets or keep your trap shut when something bad happens to them.

    AS for this case….it is a wild animal that could possibly carry disease. I bet all those picketing would feel different if that cute baby raccoon gave their brat rabies.

    • Mark B

      I wonder how many are aware that Raccoons cary Round Worm , and it is found in there feces and can become airborn and inhaled making it very dangerous for everyone especially the young and elderly.

      http://nwco.net/044-wildlifediseases/4-2-RaccoonRoundworm.asp

      • stop ur whining part deux

        Funny isn’t it? All these people protesting would be the first to shake his hand after neighborhood kids start dropping like flies.

        Did you see a huge contingent were not even from Ridgeville. They bused in from Vermillion.

        Wonder if they would have the same stance when it happens in their backyard?

        • Shellie Ferancy Kearsey

          I live in North Ridgeville. Most of the residents that were protesting were from North Ridgeville. Get your facts straight.

          • stop ur whining part deux

            False.

    • Oneday67

      It doesn’t surprise me you have a dog that eats cat crap. Teach that dog some manners.

      • stop ur whining part deux

        Or my dog rolled in it and got sick. But yea, lets blame the responsible pet owner and not the negligent terrible individuals that allow their pets to roam free with no regard for health or public decency or respect for their neighbors.

        Always someone else to blame huh oneday?

        • Oneday67

          Maybe you should keep your dog on a leash or watch it a little closer. Always someone else to blame huh whining? By the way I don’t like cats, racoons, groundhogs, squirrels or any other animal that pesters me and damages by belongings.

          • stop ur whining part deux

            Ah so when my dog is in my FENCED in yard on my property i need to make sure it is on a leash and monitor it.

            Sorry buddy but that is an exceedingly lame argument. I should not have to worry about someone else pet making messes in my yard and putting myself, my pets and my family’s health at risk.

            Right….it is my fault.

          • Oneday67

            There is a very easy way to make that go away. Take some pointers from how Accorti does it in North Ridgeville.

          • stop ur whining part deux

            Correct. The man is doing his job and I applaud him for it. He is a former police officer who has been trained extensively in firearms and is properly educated on the laws on removing nuisance animals.

          • Pat Fogo

            Wow, I am always amazed at the absolute IGNORANCE that still exists in North RIdgeville. not a place i sell many homes in because I know the “Good Ole Boy” attitude and the continued flooding that has plagued this city for decades. City Hall won’t help you with flooded basements but they’ll shoot any animal you want dead as long as it’s in front of an audience. TRUTH.

          • stop ur whining part deux

            1) Houses are selling all over North Ridgeville. Avon is over built and spilling over and North Ridgeville has good schools, low crime and is an appealing place to raise a family.

            2) If you want to blame the flooding, blame the reason. Avon. All the new homes built on the border blocked the water shed and now the water has no where to go. Personally I have three friends in Ridgeville and not a single one had flooding issues. But they are adequately prepared which many are not.

            3) Those animals being dealt with are nuisances that spread disease. You 100% need to remove them and relocating them is not the answer. You must thin the heard. If you want to be mad at someone, be angry at the terrible pet owners that simply allow their cats to roam the neighborhood. Feral cats are themselves, or sired from house cats that owners did not want to deal with anymore.

            Good Ole Boys? Get a clue. I wonder if you would be able to sell houses easier in a neighborhood that could flood or a neighborhood with a rabies outbreak. Fact is if you have a generator and a sump pump you will have a dry house. I’d rather have that than shots from a 3 inch needle into my stomach.

  • stop ur whining part deux

    Thank you Mr Acorti for doing a job others will not. I appreciate your service. Since people have an issue with your methods may I suggest you merely start drowning the animals, or trap them and throw them off a cliff.

    On second though, catch more cats, take them to city hall and release the info for all the lost cats. WHen people come to claim their little precious animals they irresponibly let roam the neighborhoods you fine them $3k and they must pay before you release the animal, no money, cat gets a dirt nap.

    • Shellie Ferancy Kearsey

      Mr. Accorti is nothing more than a vigilante who is gun happy. He needs to be removed from his job. North Ridgeville has 2 humane officers. Funny the other one has never had any problems. Stop the violence in front of our children

      • stop ur whining part deux

        By vigilante you mean a former officer of the law who has been trained with firearms and is cognizant of the laws on wild animal removal.

        As for your kids witnessing violent…I suggest you ban them from ALL tv and video games if you are aiming to curb violence in front of kids.

        It is called personal responsibility. Take care of your pets. A cat should not be allowed to roam the neighborhood daily.

        • Shellie Ferancy Kearsey

          If he was trained in the proper handling of a firearm, he broke the very first rule. CLEAR THE AREA BEFORE YOU SHOOT!!!! If he can’t see that far perhaps he shouldn’t be shooting at anything.

          • Spec440

            What didn’t he clear? Did I miss the part in either story where he hit anything other than what he intended. Nice try, next.

          • Spec440

            And actually, the first rule is to always point the gun in a safe direction. I mean, keep making up things to fit your silly little agenda that nobody cares about, but I just thought you’d like to know.

          • stop ur whining part deux

            Did you read the article? Both he AND the homeowner BOTH stated that they saw no one. Kids make things up all the time. I will take the word of two adults, one a former police officer and a witness that stands nothing to gain by lying.

            The guy did his job, and I thank him for it.

            That little kid sees more violence on TV or rotting his brain on an Xbox then he could EVER see, and again, I seriously question what he saw.

      • Bill Love

        because you nut jobs haven’t went after him yet I’m sure you’ll find a reason to protest him next

  • Sis Delish

    Catch the Critter on the Property where it was Reported, Release the Critter on the Property of one of the Protestors. Case Solved.

    • luvmytoaster

      LOL! Excellent suggestion!

    • Shellie Ferancy Kearsey

      A rather stupid comment don’t you think? Again, we understand the need to rid the animal from it’s surroundings. You simply need to carry out your job where no children are present to witness your actions. Common sense needs to prevail here and Accorti has NONE!!!!

      • stillsleepyeyes

        Why does the animal have to go……….it was their home first…………..

        • John Q. Taxpayer

          Maybe you should tear your house down since I’m sure it displaced some animals during the construction of it!

          • stillsleepyeyes

            as you probably are correct in the displacement of the little critters, but they still have over a hundred acres of wooded area that I left alone for them to live. oh and I still hunt them as so my father and his father did .

      • Sis Delish

        Are you suggesting that the folks who are protesting shouldn’t have the beloved critters for themselves?

        I’m hearing they all have wonderful Viddle Recipies for Critters in North Ridgeville.

      • mudlovinmom

        You sound like a person with a personal issue with Accorti. Maybe you should get a job and let this guy do his. If “Chopper” didn’t want to see it he would have turned around or went home. Seriously, it’s not like the kid is 3 or 4 years old. He’s old enough that he can make decisions on his own. He probably is such a big boy he crosses the street on his own, he rides his bike to his friends house yet he can’t figure out how to turn around if he doesn’t want to see something. My advise to Chopper and his Dad is to put your big boy panties on and deal with life.

        • stop ur whining part deux

          He also probably rots his brain in front of an Xbox all day playing grand theft auto or call of duty.

          Dad has no problem with Jr. beating up prostitutes and murdering as long as it is online.

        • Shellie Ferancy Kearsey

          And you mudlovinmom need to find some common sense. If the child would have been hurt by a bullet ricocheting off a rock would you then have a different story???

          • Spec440

            If, if, if….blah blah blah. He wasn’t. Quit trying to make this something it isn’t.

  • hottamomma

    Here we go again. Some people have nothing better to do than to protest!

    • Pat Fogo

      I have much better things to do. i put my husband of 35 years to rest on June 7- HOW DARE YOU JUDGE ME .What have YOU DONE to make a difference in this world?

      • hottamomma

        I let God handle it, cause it’s his world to handle

  • onesears

    Can they just start shooting the nuisance neighbors instead??

    • stop ur whining part deux

      start with the disrespectful jerks that allowed their cats outdoors in the first place. All feral cats started out or are sired from former house cats that people no longer want.

      Interesting that the same people who let their cat go because they did not want it anymore are the same jerks calling for this guys head.

  • jj

    The issue is not the actions he has taken with animals but the lack of common sense in doing it. He could easily have children and others leave the area if this action was required. Perhaps some re-training should be done with all of the officers to make sure they understand and follow some basic common-sense procedures. This sure makes North Ridgeville look like they have Barney Fifes running around in Hooterville.

    • mudlovinmom

      The home owner and Accorti didn’t see any kids around. Maybe they were not where they were supposed to be. Maybe Tim Sherrill wants to file a lawsuit like he has in the past. Maybe, he made up the whole story about the kids being there. I think they should look into to him a little closer.

  • Tina Braun

    right after theses kids saw this they went inside and played Grand theft auto

  • SniperFire

    Now if we could only get the same bleeding hearts to protest the wanton slaying of Christians by Muslims in the Arab world…..

    • Tom

      wow… so much ignorance…

  • Nicole

    That guy really named his kid Chopper…

  • AerynGwendolyn

    I like how the police chief says he’s “gotten a lot of grief over this.” Well GOOD. You SHOULD get a lot of grief when your “humane” officer shoots kittens in front of children instead of taking them to the shelter, as people with any shred of compassion would do (and is protocol in most civilized places). It is also not necessary to shoot a caged animal in front of a child. This “officer” is trigger happy and needs to be removed from his position. What he did was animal cruelty.

  • justanotherday

    Just in for all you tree huggers, Ridgeville fire department and several other fire departments just put a house fire out. The animals were saved and the police were on seen and never pulled a gun. Really if you want protest, people are getting shot weekly in elyria and Lorain. Go there and protest, but wear a bullet proof vest or do us a favor and don’t

  • TRB SR.

    What a joke. Where did these ‘settler protesters’ come from? Once upon a time in the mid 20th century people CAME TO N. Ridgeville from urban areas TO HUNT. Many N. Ridgeville residents from Appalachia hunted raccoon at night for sport and money. Wasamatta with the paranoid newbies? Get a life.

  • Matthew T. Arnold

    It’s absurd to demonize Barry acortti. I’ve known him my whole life. He has served this nation honorably and the city. He is a good guy who is doing a dirty job. I know him well enough to know he doesn’t show up on site anxious to put an animal down. You folks should direct your energy towards greenpeace and saving the whales. Lol. A humane officers job is what it is. North ridgeville has been blessed to have a guy like Barry in its service all these years. The fact is wildlife must be controlled. The people ARE here. And we can’t let the population of wild animals get out of control. Folks ever heard of the plague? You would all be the first ones whining if such a situation were to return due to over population of wild animals and vermin. You would be screaming “why isn’t the government ding something?” Go do something for your community. Get a life!

    • stillsleepyeyes

      Wow, good sermon……………..we cannot let the wildlife get out of control…………..but yet you all let the population get out of control………….so many houses so close together you all can’t control the rain flooding all over……….just keep building…………..the animal population only grows to what the food source is…………don’t like the critters…………move to the city…..

  • Matthew T. Arnold

    I have one of the last farms left in ridgeville. I’m all for a moratorium on continued bldg. It has brought allot of weird ppl into this town. Including people who name their child “chopper” lol! And you are incorrect about wildlife only expanding to the available food supply. If not properly maintained, they will starve each other out. It’s called wildlife mgmt. I have no flooding issues where I live. Family has been her a long time. My father helped write the charter amendments when this town became a city. Perhaps you (stillsleepyeyes) should go back to the city. Live with the rats and vermin. I have crops and livestock to protect. And I will continue to capture raccoons, ground hogs, and the like and destroy them. I do so on a daily basis.

  • Scunnered

    A big thanks to these protesters. You are the voice for these animals that have no defense against brainless humans.

  • Amanda Risdon

    I can understand the issues that some people are having with the way he disposed of the animal. Not everyone has grown up around guns or things of that nature. However, I don’t see the big deal with what he did. He did what he was called out to do. When you trap an animal that is a nuisance, what do you expect to be done with it? If you don’t want it trapped and dispatched, find a way to naturally repel the animal in the first place. It seems like common sense to me. Maybe I sound sound insensitive, but it’s not my intention. I grew up hunting and still hunt now. My children who are 5 and 1 have been “exposed” to that lifestyle as well. It doesn’t bother them and I can’t say that neither of my children or I have ever suffered PTSD from hearing a gun shot or seeing an animal get shot. It’s a way of life. Kids these days are exposed to far worse on television (add that to the list of reasons we don’t have cable) then seeing a varmint be shot. As far as the “well it’s not real and that’s the difference” comments go; Lately, I have seen more kids on the news committing acts of violence based of off something that wasn’t real in the first place, then I have anything else. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I’m not going to debate anyone (so don’t bother trying to argue with me). I just felt like sharing my “two” cents.

    • WoodsmanOO1

      Here’s a good link to show these mommies’-basement bambi-cartoon-educated psychotic netizens just how all their weekend-rural-barbecues are provided for them. It’s sad when parents won’t teach their children today how to humanely kill an animal anymore. I hope they’ll all starve to death should their stores, with neatly wrapped “murdered” animals, that they pay someone else to “murder” for them aren’t on the shelves for them. Funnier still are the brain-damaged “vegan” cat-lickers who pay people to kill animals and then cram those animals into bags and cans and slap a cat-food label on them. If you own a cat you are willingly and purposefully “MURDERING” animals!

      granny-miller D0T com SLASH small-animal-livestock-euthanasia-on-the-homestead-what-you-need-to-know/

      • Pat Fogo

        I’m a grandmother and I find your view uncaring, not productive for future generations and therefore of no substance. GROW UP.

  • Pat Fogo

    Maybe we can agree on THIS…. it’s okay for kids to witness the death of innocent animals, but then it should ALSO be okay for kids to witness death row inmates get their last injection- now THERE’S a lasting memory. Don’t kill something and maybe you won’t die either. Is that a fair alternative?

  • SniperFire

    ‘Oh please, we each pick our battles.’

    LOL. that was my point.