October 21, 2014

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4 children, parents killed in Houston-area shooting

Law enforcement officers surround a shooting suspect Wednesday in Spring, Texas. After hours of waiting and negotiations, the man, suspect in the slayings of six people, including four children, emerged from his car, raised his hands and sank to his knees as deputies placed him under arrest. No identity has been released. (AP Photo/Houston Chronicle, Brett Coomer)

Law enforcement officers surround a shooting suspect Wednesday in Spring, Texas. After hours of waiting and negotiations, the man, suspect in the slayings of six people, including four children, emerged from his car, raised his hands and sank to his knees as deputies placed him under arrest. (AP Photo/Houston Chronicle, Brett Coomer)

SPRING, Texas (AP) — A gunman dressed as a delivery man forced his way into his sister-in-law’s suburban Houston home where he held her children at gunpoint until their parents arrived. Then he opened fire, killing four of the children and the two adults, law enforcement officials said Thursday.

Ronald Lee Haskell, 33, has been charged with multiple counts of capital murder in the killings Wednesday evening in Spring, the Harris County Sheriff’s Office said in a statement. He also is accused of critically wounding a 15-year-old girl in the shooting rampage.

When he arrived at the door, Haskell demanded to know where he could find his estranged wife, the statement said. After the children’s parents, Katie, 33, and Stephen Stay, 39, arrived home, Haskell opened fire on the family. The children killed were two boys ages 4 and 14, plus two girls ages 7 and 9, Harris County Sheriff’s Deputy Thomas Gilliland said.

People stand with a law enforcement officer near the scene of a shooting Wednesday, July 9, 2014, in Spring, Texas. A Harris County Sheriff's Office statement says precinct deputy constables were called to the house about 6 p.m. Wednesday and found two adults and three children dead. Another child later died at a hospital. (AP Photo/Houston Chronicle, Brett Coomer)

People stand with a law enforcement officer near the scene of a shooting Wednesday, July 9, 2014, in Spring, Texas. A Harris County Sheriff’s Office statement says precinct deputy constables were called to the house about 6 p.m. Wednesday and found two adults and three children dead. Another child later died at a hospital. (AP Photo/Houston Chronicle, Brett Coomer)

Five family members were dead when police arrived. Two were transported by helicopter to a Houston hospital, where one died and the other remains in critical condition, the statement said.

By Thursday morning, a small, makeshift memorial with three candles and a plant had been set up at the front door of the family’s two-story white-brick and brown wood-trimmed home. A couple with a child left a framed photo of the family with the inscription “Faith, Hope, Love.”

“I don’t think any of us will ever be able to see that house the same again,” said Viri Palacios, who lives across the street. “I just want the word to get out they were a really, really good family.”

Haskell was the estranged husband of Katie Stay’s sister, according to Harris County Precinct 4 Constable Ron Hickman. Law enforcement had initially said Haskell was the father of the slain children but later corrected that account.

Hickman said Haskell “came in the guise of a FedEx driver wearing a FedEx shirt.”

Federal Express said in a statement that Haskell had “formerly provided service” for the company, but not since January.

Neighbor Verena Beckstrand, 42, choked back tears as she described how Katie Stay went to Utah last fall to help her sister escape her relationship with Haskell and make a fresh start in Texas.

“Katie’s a spitfire. She has energy to stand up for what she believes is right and true,” Beckstrand said.

A few blocks from the home at Lemm Elementary School, Principal Kathy Brown tied multi-colored ribbons around trees in front of the building and encouraged parents to do the same.

“It’s to have positive bright thoughts about the family,” Brown said, noting that two of the slain children had attended school there and a third had graduated from Lemm.

Documents introduced during a preliminary court hearing Thursday show the 15-year-old girl attempted to close the door to the home after telling Haskell her parents weren’t home, according to a report by KPRC-TV in Houston. But he kicked in the door.

Hickman said that after Haskell left the home the injured teenage girl contacted authorities telling them the shooter was en route to shoot other family members.

Law enforcement personnel located Haskell’s car and a low-speed chase ensued, ending in a cul-de-sac, Hickman said. A standoff lasted more than three hours before Haskell exited the car, sank to his knees and surrendered.

Online jail records did not list an attorney for Haskell.


  • shadow

    That’s TEXAS!! A gun for every nutcase in every home!! Bang, bang!! Shoot ‘em up!!

    • golfingirl

      And what about Chicago….a murder capital of the United States, with the some of the strictest gun control laws in the country.

      82 shot, 16 dead just over the July 4 weekend. Most young black youths, shot by other black youths.

      This incident in Texas was an aberration, in Chicago it was just another holiday weekend.

      But we never see the body counts from the POTUS home city do we? I wonder why?

      Mayor Rahm Emanuel, a former Obama cabinet member, can no longer blame it on lenient gun laws, can he?

      But it is always the gun, never the shooter.

      • whobeboo

        Just another god fearing, bible thumping, flag waiving, card carrying tea bagger exercising his 2nd amendment rights.

        • golfingirl

          No, not a “tea bagger.”

          God fearer…..yes.

          Flag waver…yes.

          Bible thumper….no, I worship in private.

          Believer in the Constitution of the United States…..absolutely!

          So, should I be embarrassed by my beliefs in traditional marriage, no drugs, harsh punishment for criminals and minimal government in people’s lives?

          • TruthWhisperer

            Traditional Marriage is Polygynous Marriage along with several other types.

            Probably the most common form of marriage in the bible, it is where a man has more than one wife.

            Levirate Marriage

            When a woman was widowed without a son, it became the responsibility of the brother-in-law or a close male relative to take her in and impregnate her. If the resulting child was a son, he would be considered the heir of her late husband. See Ruth, and the story of Onan (Gen. 38:6-10).

            A man, a woman and her property — a female slave

            The famous “handmaiden” sketch, as preformed by Abraham (Gen. 16:1-6) and Jacob (Gen. 30:4-5).

            A man, one or more wives, and some concubines

            The definition of a concubine varies from culture to culture, but they tended to be live-in mistresses. Concubines were tied to their “husband,” but had a lower status than a wife. Their children were not usually heirs, so they were safe outlets for sex without risking the line of succession. To see how badly a concubine could be treated, see the famous story of the Levite and his concubine (Judges 19:1-30).

            A male soldier and a female prisoner of war

            Women could be taken as booty from a successful campaign and forced to become wives or concubines. Deuteronomy 21:11-14 describes the process.

            A male rapist and his victim

            Deuteronomy 22:28-29 describes how an unmarried woman who had been raped must marry her attacker.

            A male and female slave

            A female slave could be married to a male slave without consent, presumably to produce more slaves.

          • Sis Delish

            Tell us about your culture while you’re at it… What does it say about Sheep?

          • TruthWhisperer

            Isnt it funny that I know more about your culture than you do?

            Should you ever been divorced or had a child out of wedlock you are supposed to be stoned to death. Its funny that you don’t hold yourself to the same standards you hold others to haha

            You figure out what socialism is yet?

          • Sis Delish

            Socialism involves Sheep.

          • TruthWhisperer

            So the answer is no,

            Thanks for the Clarification :-)

          • Starryeyes63

            Nice C&P Bravo.

          • TruthWhisperer

            You realize polygamy is the true traditional marriage right?

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Not in North America. Where do you dig your hole?

          • TruthWhisperer

            You realize Christianity is older than America right?

            Not in North America LOL thats pretty funny because it sounds like you think you are an exemption and free to cherry pick your ‘facts’

            Good news is if you have been divorced or had a child out of wedlock you should be stoned to death.

            Lot less Christians if they actually obeyed the book haha

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            You do realize this is a story about a nut shooting his family and others in Texas, don’t you?

            I will repeat it for you slow thinkers; polygamy was never an accepted tradition in America. Now run along, child.

          • TruthWhisperer

            You are the onle talking about North America not me.

            I was responding to GolfnGirrl so if you are dissatisfied with our conversation please feel free to not participate.

            None the less I am correct

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            A. I notice that she hasn’t responded to you.
            B. I’m guessing she’ll not respond to you.
            C. Texas, Chicago and the U.S. are in North America.
            D. You are still incorrect.
            E. Run along, child.

          • TruthWhisperer

            So you list A,B,C,D,E
            A – I noticed
            B – I guess
            C – Congrats for knowing 3 places
            D – Expresses opinion
            E – Advises to run

            Thats your evidence?

            Thanks for all that insight, I bet you just close the trials down with that hahahahaha

            8th grade was pretty tough ehh?

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Texas is a state. Chicago and the United States are not.

            Tell me about your 8th grade experiences if you ever get there. Ha ha ha, ha ha, ha ha!

          • TruthWhisperer

            your evidence is still absent

            Make sure your engrish is air tight cha chi

            derp a derp!

          • TruthWhisperer

            But Jesus in the United states we only obey certain passages LOL

            Here in the United states we dont follow ALLLL the rules only the ones we like

            Larry is a typical hypocrite who cherry picks what to follow haha

            Hope you are not divorced or had a child out of wedlock because according to your gospel you get stoned to death.

            Or is that not listed in the 2014 ‘Merican Bible?

            PS:’polygamy was never an accepted tradition in America.’

            you might want to read a book about that son

          • luvmytoaster

            Christians are no longer held to the laws of the Old Testament since Jesus Christ shed his blood on the Cross. Do you see people slaying animals today as sacrifices to the Lord? No.

            It’s funny how all of your “Up Votes” are always from a “Guest” or one of your other many personas.

            To golfingirl: I’m sorry for breaking our pact of not responding to Sybil, please accept my apologies.

          • TruthWhisperer

            The bible crosses the globe and North America is of no exeption. Either you are in or you are out.

            Or a cherry picker like yourself.

            Typical Conservative Hypocrite cant even obey the words he reads because of ‘Merica

            haha

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            I get it, you don’t care for the bible.

            Now run along, child.

          • TruthWhisperer

            I care for the bible but to think North America gets an exemption from the holy bible is probably one of the funniest things I have read here.

            But Jesus here in North America we dont believe in that, We only cherry pick Just ask Larry haha

            Funny that a running child runs circles around you in the logic department isnt it?

          • TruthWhisperer

            So what version of traditional marriage is your favorite?

            When a woman is forced to marry her rapist or the Levirate Marriage???

          • TruthWhisperer

            Oh By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

      • TruthWhisperer

        By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

    • Sis Delish

      Post that outside of your residence so the criminals will know you aren’t capable of defending intruders. Go ahead, do it.

      • TruthWhisperer

        Go outside for once and stop complaining on the internet.

        Go ahead, Do it.

        • Sis Delish

          Pssst… hey, stop whispering… afraid something might hear what you have to type?

          • TruthWhisperer

            Hey are you afraid of homosexuals because their privates might taste Sis Delish???

            PS its Someone might hear you type, Not Something.

            Stay in school son

          • Sis Delish

            No typo, I meant something. I don’t believe you associate with someone.

          • TruthWhisperer

            ahhh just your poor engrish again

            got it, you look so smart!

          • TruthWhisperer

            You figure out what socialism is yet?

          • http://www.fingerslam.com/ Cool Chad McRad

            you must be homosexual.

          • TruthWhisperer

            Is that caveman speak?

          • http://www.fingerslam.com/ Cool Chad McRad

            absolutely.

          • TruthWhisperer

            Thought so.

            Dont worry you will get through 3rd grade sooner or later.

            Keep trying and dont give up!

            Thanks Chadwick!

          • Bill Love

            so what if he is

          • golfingirl

            He is just dumb….not other words to describe him.

            Normally, he is just ignored on this site, then he changes names, repost, then comes back under this name.

            He is not only a loser, but a very predictable one….laughing.

            If you argue with him, you will be told you are still at some grade level in elementary school, you have a low IQ, you need to go back and get your GED….on an on.

            His constantly refers to education and intelligence levels, however he has admitted is IQ is only 69.5.

            Which places him in the lowest 2% of the population.

            This fact alone proves you are arguing with an actual “idiot.”

          • TruthWhisperer

            Thats because Im trying to be like you. Making false claims about it.

            By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

        • http://www.fingerslam.com/ Cool Chad McRad

          take your own advice.

          • TruthWhisperer

            Thanks Chadwick!

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  • givemeabreak1234

    LPD this is how you do it.

  • Joe Smith

    RIP

    • Bob

      WHAT??? You aren’t going to tell everyone how they went overboard by using two armored cars for one guy sitting in his car??

      Oh wait this didn’t happen in Lorain County, so I guess it’s ok. Right??

      • Joe Smith

        Is this one guy just wanted for assault like the other one?…No?
        Petty attacking someone trying to show respect for a family and sad that you compare 1 person wanted for assault to a person who just murdered several people including children.
        But then again, logic is not your strong point.

  • TruthWhisperer

    Wow another legal gun that was used to kill another person.

    A ‘responsible’ gun owner lost their gun again to a criminal right?

    Remember Cigarettes dont kill people, Cancer does!

    • Bill Love

      he was a dumb a$$ the freaked out not all gun owners are crazy. and how do you no it was a legal gun

      • TruthWhisperer

        Every single gun ever manufactured was at one time legal. The real question is how did so many legal guns get lost to criminals by way of legal gun owners that purchased them?

        • Bill Love

          well when you have someone steal them out of your house or the ones that come up missing that the police take as evidence or when the government sells them to illegals. or when gun shops get robbed.they only way the gun is legal is if he bought it

          • TruthWhisperer

            So its not the gun owners responsibility to keep their guns safe?

            Yes or no?

            If they answer is yes then they are irresponsible.
            if the answer is no then there needs to be 5 fold increase of regulation since nobody is responsible for them.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            Today I swung my front door wide open and placed my Remington 30.06 right in my doorway. I left 6 shells beside it, then left it alone and went about my business.

            While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor boy across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the stop sign near the front of our house.

            After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was still sitting there, right where I had left it. It hadn’t moved itself outside. It certainly hadn’t killed anyone, even with the numerous opportunities it had been presented to do so. In fact, it hadn’t even loaded itself.

            Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the media hype about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong or I’m in possession of the laziest gun in the world.

            The United States is 3rd in Murders throughout the World. But if you take out Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, and New Orleans, the United States is 4th from the bottom for Murders. These 4 Cities also have the toughest Gun Control Laws in the United States.

            It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data – right?

            Well, I’m off to check on my spoons. I hear they’re making people fat!

          • TruthWhisperer

            By that logic Cigarettes dont kill cancer does haha

            Nice copy and paste from your spam email.

            I see you think for yourself :-)

          • Bill Love

            What no reply back or u still looking online to find sonething to repist as your own

          • whobeboo

            So Larry, Does that makes you one of those responsible gun owners I keep hearing about?

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            You don’t hear about the responsible ones. The liberal media won’t allow it.

          • Bill Love

            so if I have all my guns locked up in a gun safe and somebody steals my gun safe im irresponsible because they broke the law by breaking into my house and stealing from what kind of sense does that make so if somebody steals your car and hits and kills somebody then YOU are responsible for there life being taken and a irresponsible car owner

        • Starryeyes63

          Not true there were no federal gun laws till 1934, And background checks till 1993.

  • golfingirl

    Remember the rules here…..there as certain persons we have agreed to ignore….laughing.

    • TruthWhisperer

      keep laughing because we are all laughing at you haha.

      I appreciate that you have off site meetings about me instead of participating in Real Life.

      So you guys put it to a vote who you ignore? like the obnoxious brats in grade school used to do?

      Its not like you can use facts and logic to win so I understand why you ignore the truth, Strange thing is someone with a 160 IQ should be able to come up with something better but she cant.

      Stay in school kiddo

  • Ariel Jimmer

    Love how people are just jumping to blame guns after this horrible incident happened. This was obviously a nutjob, but the hard facts are that gun ownership is on the rise and gun crimes have actually been DECREASING for the past twenty years.

    • TruthWhisperer

      Yeah, Just ask all the dead kids at Sandy Hook. Go ahead show them that you have a piece of paper that says otherwise.

      Maybe it will bring their kids back to life?

      • Larry Crnobrnja

        Let’s ban EVERYTHING that has caused ANYONE’S death.

        Run along now, child.

        • TruthWhisperer

          so now you evade from the singular subject to banning everything.

          Nice Ad Hominem but you only make yourself look silly

          Oh Yeah guns kill kids? Better Ban Everything!!!!
          Derp a derp!

          Good Job Larry

          PS Looks like this Child is running circles around you, You might want to go back to sitting on the bench, Keep it warm for the grown folks :-)

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            You want to ban guns because a crazy person killed his family with one? And you’re throwing out logical fallacies?

            Or perhaps you’re okay with guns?

          • TruthWhisperer

            Im ok with guns and those that buy them are fine but if you lose it or it gets stolen you are blood guilty and have a part in the people that were killed by your gun.

          • Larry Crnobrnja

            So if someone steals your car and then causes an accident with it that results in the loss of an innocent persons life, you are blood guilty?

      • Ariel Jimmer

        Maybe we should be focusing on the UNDERLYING ISSUES of why gun violence and isolated rampages are happening instead of just jumping to ban guns, like gang’s, inner-city violence, proper gun storage, the mentally ill etc. But I guess that would take way too much thinking and work for some people.

        It’s absolutely disgusting how people like you are always jumping to bring up dead kids and sandy hook as if banning guns is magically going to stop isolated rampages from happening by committed mentally ill psychopaths hellbent on killing people.

        I really hope you aren’t that naive & ignorant

        • TruthWhisperer

          Yeah sorry I use Dead Kids as Evidence, Thats a byproduct of little boys that are too afraid to go bare knuckles but rather stand behind a machine and pull a trigger because they lack the testicular fortitude to be a man.

          Thats why you see so many defending it is because they are not real men, just boys that dont know how to be a man.

          Its a sad story isnt it? whole kindergarten class gets wiped out by a Pro-Gunner and their alternative is to ban everything.

          Down right embarrassing isnt it?

        • golfingirl

          Well said.

      • jz

        Your way off dude. No sense to your point at all. You do realize a gun is an inanimate object. In the wrong hands, like the idiot in Sandy Hook, not to mention his idiot mother for the role she played, but, these surrounding facts and circumstances mean nothing to you cus you just don’t like guns. Period. And forget that common sense tells anyone with some, that if for what in your book? Safety? Guns are banned, or severely limited and only for law enforcement , or whatever panacea would make scardey cats like you feel safer, like all the criminals will not have guns anymore because they don,t want to use a gun irresponsibly or for the wrong reasons, because they are such nice people. Look Mr. Lie to Yourself . Your argument is extremely naive, based on fear mongering, and totally impractical. If you think that any law that can be written would have or could have prevented that idiot from committing such a horrendous act, your name should be Lie to Myself, not Truth Whisperer. Oh, and lest you not forget this little thing called the Constitution. Oh and lest we not forget this little thing/fact his mother was a law abiding citizen with no criminal record, therefore, she could lawfully own guns. But guess what Mr. Truth. None of us knew the dysfunctional stuff going on in that home would eventually lead to , repeat after me Mr. Truth, an inanimate object with no brain or will of its own, shooting all those innocent kids. No laws can make us safer. We the people have to individually use guns the right way, which includes, IN SELF DEFENSE. That makes us safer Mr. Lie to One’s Self with your impractical and Pollyanna illogical argument on this topic.

        • golfingirl

          Very well said.

          • TruthWhisperer

            Not bad for a genius right?

            By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

  • golfingirl

    Usually when someone constantly refers to another person’s grade level, education or IQ score, over and over again, it usually means they themselves are envious of others achieving something they never we able to do.

    Also, the repetitive use of the term GED.

    I feel like there is a tape recorder running here…same old thing, over and over again.

    • TruthWhisperer

      You forgot that it was you that said they had an IQ of 160.

      You need me to post the screenshot????

      Take your own advice little girl

      My IQ is half of yours but I still manage to make you look silly

      Why do you think that is ?

      • Larry Crnobrnja

        “My IQ is half of yours but I still manage to make you look silly”

        Silliness is in the eyes of the silly.

        • TruthWhisperer

          and the rest of the people laughing at you.

          PS whats a Genius then?

          Girl you are striking out all over the place.

        • TruthWhisperer

          Guess what a Genius is haha

          Striking out girl!

        • golfingirl

          Let’s see…. mine is 139, not 160, as he constantly states.

          He says his is half of mine.

          That would put him around 69.5, which is considered Cognitively Challenged, by definition.

          So, he is in the lowest 2% of the entire population.

          Now I understand why his comments make absolutely no sense, and why he says the same things over and over again.

          I apologize, as had I known I was dealing with a mentally challenged person, I would have ignored him long ago.

          Now, he is even calling someone named Larry a girl.

          I hope he still lives at home and his mommy takes care of him.

          • Scout

            and he votes.

      • golfingirl

        Yes, please post the screen shot.

      • golfingirl

        Still waiting for they screen shot…..what’s taking so long, trying to figure out a way to fabricate it?

        • TruthWhisperer

          I dont need to fabricate your stupidity :-)

          Thanks though!

        • Starryeyes63

          Just another UNtruthwhisper LOL

          • golfingirl

            Definitely a disturbed individual. Gotta love someone who proves HIMSELF wrong, but then thinks he is still right.

            Laughing…..Oh well, have a nice weekend.

          • Starryeyes63

            Yeah and I noticed he completely ignored the fact I schooled him on gun laws….Have a great weekend.

      • TruthWhisperer

        Here it is: http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2014/06/04/woman-charged-stabbing-husband/

        Case closed sweet heat not go get daddy an 8 iron

        • golfingirl

          Are you serious?

          You actually went back over a month ago to find a quote which showed I AM correct…..then you post it as though you are correct?


          Here is the post you referred to:

          “Tell me please, you really cannot be this dumb.

          By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

          You would not even qualify to sharpen my No. 2 pencils before an exam.”

          This has to “take the cake” when it comes to stupidity. You provide a link, proving I was correct, then claim again I was wrong?

          You actually proved yourself wrong…but are too stupid to even realize it!

          Like the Browns losing 21-7, but claiming they won. So they go back and look at the game films, and the score is still 21-7, but they still claim victory again, even after seeing it twice.

          Then they put it on TV for all to see. Exeryone knows the Browns lost, but the Browns try to convince their fans they won, and think everyone will believe them, even though they watched them lose.

          I hope you are only 10yo, at least then you have an excuse.

          Go away now little boy……

          • TruthWhisperer

            Thanks no I just hold you accountable to your stupidity

            Pretty amazing isnt it?

            I can admit it wasnt 160 as opposed to what you said being 139 but we both know you are lying about that also

            Case closed, Check Mate, Have a great weekend tootsie!

            Clean those bunkers out while you are at it :-)

            Thanks super genius!

          • TruthWhisperer

            So I can just call you a genius instead of crediting you of having an IQ of 160 right?

            You are using it as a mode of defense so its ok right?

            Right Genius?

          • TruthWhisperer

            Not a chance Im here to stay and I got your edits captured also :-)

            Thanks Genius!!!

          • TruthWhisperer

            You realize Little boy is the same tag line as your other account right?

            Well dont you Genius?

            By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

            I gave a few more points but we both know you are full of it

            Right Genius?

            Make sure you log out before adding your little boy message, Besides Im a 12 year old girl that owns you

          • TruthWhisperer

            Anything else?>

          • TruthWhisperer

            I can admit I thought you said 160 but you said 139 so you are a genius right?

            Right?

            a genius?

            Right?

          • TruthWhisperer

            Hello Genius, can you answer the question why you use your intellect as a reason to cover for stupidity and thats exactly what you were doing

            Can you explain yourself genius?

          • TruthWhisperer

            By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

            hahahahaha

          • TruthWhisperer

            You might want to re-read because you are embarrassing yourself on the internet genius but maybe its because you are not re-editing properly.

            By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

          • TruthWhisperer

            Hey Sis By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

          • TruthWhisperer

            Hey Golfn Girl By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

          • TruthWhisperer

            You forgot to logout By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

            Isnt that what it is genius?

            Or are you a super genius????

            just me taking down an entire army of morons!

            W00t!

    • TruthWhisperer
    • TruthWhisperer
    • TruthWhisperer

      oh dear By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

      Thats what you said right?

      Genius isnt that what you said?

      • golfingirl

        That is what I said, you said it was 160.

        So, please provide a “screen shot” to the post where I said 160.

        Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

        • TruthWhisperer

          Yeah sorry I just though you were a genius but clearly you are not

          By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

          Using your IQ as evidence haha

        • TruthWhisperer

          You need those extra 21 points dont you haha

          right genius????

        • TruthWhisperer

          You can have my 21 IQ points I dont need them Im only 12 and have a brighter future than you anyways.

          But Genius I thought you all agreed to not talk to me,

          Kinda hard to avoid when you get called out and shamed on the internets though isnt it?

          Can you make me a sandwhich?

          Genius like you should be able to do that for Dad right?

          • golfingirl

            So what you are really saying here is that I was correct, and as usual, you were wrong.

          • TruthWhisperer

            Did you ask Slush Delush permission to respond back to me?

            you all agreed right? but you are not being a good worker bee

            By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

          • TruthWhisperer

            Sure, You mention only people bring up intellect when they are jealous but a month ago you were saying

            By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

            The only thing you are hung up on is the number but fail to realize its you thats jealous of others intellect and thats why you mention it

            unfortunately you forgot about it but I remembered for you

            Cheers!

            I Win!

          • TruthWhisperer

            Any thing else Courtney?

          • golfingirl

            I knew you were only a child.

            Thank you for the confirmation.

            So, as I now understand it, based on your admissions, you are a 12yo with an IQ of 69.5.

            Thank you for your honesty, I now understand the mental basis for your comments, and will no longer challenge you.

            Yep, looks like a bright future.

            Talk to you later, it is time for you to go play with your Legos…..laughing.

            Have a great life!

          • TruthWhisperer

            Sure, You mention only people bring up intellect when they are jealous but a month ago you were saying

            By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

            The only thing you are hung up on is the number but fail to realize its you thats jealous of others intellect and thats why you mention it

            unfortunately you forgot about it but I remembered for you

            Pretty funny isnt it? You act so high and mighty but get shout down by a 12 year old with an iq around room temp?

            Thanks Genius!

        • luvmytoaster

          Remember our agreement……

          • golfingirl

            My bad…..I will comply in the future. Especially now that I know he is only a 12 yo.

    • TruthWhisperer

      This is what you were doing until you got caught using your so called intellect.

      Like when you said By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

      we both know thats not the case because you would have never brought it up

      Thanks Genius!

    • TruthWhisperer

      Make sure you log out of the other account next time!

      Super Genius!

    • TruthWhisperer

      Is that why you say you have such a high IQ?

      By the way, my IQ is 139, considerably above yours, I can assure you.

      Same thing right?

  • Arietta Sullivan

    that’s sad. R.I.P. and prayers

  • tickmeoff

    Divorce, there are two sides to it,1st side, I am getting rid of the person who makes me unhappy. I am free, I can find happiness. 2nd side, How could he she do this to me. I gave them the best years of my life. The winner, retains the home, retains custody of child or children. The loser, loses home, pays child support for the next 10 to 15 years. The government, the courts pick the winner and the loser. In the United states, the loser has already been chosen. It’s too bad custody can’t be more of a 50 50 proposition, like employment law, where so many jobs are reserved for one side. Motherhood outranks fatherhood.

    If we truly wanted an equal society, both sides would have a shot. My father taught me that males lose and females win. To accept the outcome, and make the best of it. What the gunman did was wrong and I hope he loses his own life for what he did. It’s amazing to me, that there isn’t more violence than there is.

    Employment law steps in and makes positions for females. so I think divorce law should be as fair. Making a position for males to win also.

    People have a right to happiness, but the misery should be shared equally. Make custody and the child support that goes with it an equal opportunity, no wonder the divorce rate is as high as it is. I am not sticking up for the gun man, but the sister stepped in that marriage, and you see the results of it.