November 23, 2014

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Protesters say animals don’t belong in circus

Veronica Farzan, of Canton, and Lisa Lopez, of Cleveland, stand along Detroit Road, in Avon holding signs protesting the circus on Saturday. KRISTIN BAUER/CHRONICLE

Veronica Farzan, of Canton, and Lisa Lopez, of Cleveland, stand along Detroit Road, in Avon holding signs protesting the circus on Saturday. KRISTIN BAUER/CHRONICLE

AVON — Not everyone was happy the circus came to town.

More than a dozen protesters lined the sidewalk in front of Avon Village Elementary, 36600 Detroit Road, on Saturday to voice their opinion that animals do not belong in a circus.

The protesters were not a part of a specific animal rights organization. They simply described themselves as “animal advocates” and voiced their distaste of the Kelly Miller Circus.

Willoughby resident Jeff Zehner said he takes to the streets any time the circus comes near his residence. He said circus animals are mistreated in a number of ways including malnourishment, inadequate traveling accommodations and uneducated handlers.

“We’re just trying to get the word out there that there are ways to take care of animals, and the circus isn’t a way we like to see them,” Zehner said.

Canton resident Veronica Farzan said she shows up in any town where the big top goes up and animals are carted in.

The Kelly Miller Circus' Asian elephants give rides to guests in attendance during an intermission Saturday. KRISTIN BAUER/CHRONICLE

The Kelly Miller Circus’ Asian elephants give rides to guests in attendance during an intermission Saturday. KRISTIN BAUER/CHRONICLE

“They’ll claim they treat the animals really well, but if you’re an elephant, tiger, camel or zebra, do you want to be in a cage with no time off?” Farzan said. “These are exotic animals that go from a cage in a truck, to another cage to perform for the circus and are put back in the cage to sleep for the night before going back on a truck.”

Farzan said she opposes circuses using animals. She said shows like Cirque du Soleil make huge profits and do not use a single animal.

“They have never once used a wild animal in any of their shows,” Farzan said of Cirque du Soleil. “We’re not against the circus. If the Kelly Miller Circus wanted to have a good old fashioned show and take out the animal acts, I would actually buy a ticket.”

Circus workers were eager to talk with The Chronicle-Telegram and counter claims that their animals are mistreated. Armando Loyal, the elephant trainer for Kelly Miller Circus, said protesters have every right to their opinion, but they need to take every trainer into consideration before judging a circus as a whole.

Kelly Miller Circus, based in Oklahoma, performs two shows a day from February through October. Loyal said locations generally are scheduled to be an hour apart, and animals are given time in between shows and transport to be out of their cages. He said during the off-season, the elephants have a large area to roam on his 400-acre farm.

“I can’t account for anybody but myself,” Loyal said. “They have a right to protest. But they shouldn’t infringe upon anyone’s right to come to the circus.”

Loyal also said the circus wouldn’t be the same without the animals.

“Like anything in life, the circus may have started out as one thing, but it has improved over the years,” he said. “I’ve seen (protesters holding) signs with pictures from the 1930s, which just isn’t right. It takes a lot of time and care to earn the respect of the elephants.”

Kelly Miller Circus owner John Ringling North II purchased the circus in 2007 and said he brought in an entirely new show and cast. North said he doesn’t take issue with people who don’t like animals being in a circus.

“If they say animals belong in the wild, they’re entitled to that belief,” North said. “But if they say, ‘Kelly Miller beats the animals’, which is a lie, I don’t think that should be allowed.”

According to an online fact sheet from animal rights activists People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, Kelly Miller Circus, or animal handlers affiliated with the circus, has been cited 20 times since 1992 by the U.S. Department of Agriculture for violations ranging from not properly securing animals to failing to report injuries to a veterinarian.

However, the USDA online animal care information system database says Kelly Miller Circus has passed annual inspections since 2011, the furthest back online information is available.

Contact Jon Wysochanski at 329-7123 or jwysochanski@chroniclet.com. Follow him on Twitter @JonWysochanski. 


  • Sis Delish

    The Clowns out in front of the School protesting are more entertaining than the Clowns inside? You be the Judge…

  • SniperFire

    Animals belong on my plate, right next to the green beans.

    • ekwaykway

      Lol, see my post above.

  • Ellie

    Kelly Miller Circus doesn’t even own the elephants and tigers in their show they lease them, so all USDA violations go against the owners USDA License and not the lessee. Carson & Barnes Circus owns the elephants touring with Kelly Miller Circus. Their record shows they are a habitual offender of the “Animal Welfare Act”.
    Synopsis: http://www.bornfreeusa.org/facts.php?more=1&p=420

  • Phil Blank

    The woman on the left side of the photo can’t even get the sign correct.
    “Circuse animals are captured”?
    Really?
    I always thought wild animals were captured?

  • Phil Blank

    Maybe they watched too many reallity shows and are trying to gain attention in hopes of a big TV or cable deal that will make them rich?

    People with boring lives and nothing better to do.

    • Kim

      Their lives are boring and they have nothing better to do, how do you figure that? They are trying to help animals who have no choice in being beaten and made to preform for morons like you who patronize the circus

  • reallyoldfarts

    I support the protesters right to peacefully protest. What I don’t like is the CT’s fascination with every insignificant animal welfare story. Couldn’t they find some other news story that makes a more important point?

    • SpaceTech

      I agree, Ct is notorious for that but Fox8′s website is home base for any little animal sob story with all of Dick Goddards followers.

    • Sue Lawson

      I agree.

  • SpaceTech

    I am no animal nazi activist by any means but I do think it is probably time to stop making animals do tricks for show. I no longer support the old traveling circus and after seeing the movie “Blackfish” I am completely against Sea World.
    Zoo’s are important because in a generation or two–its the only place our great grand kids will be able to see a lot of animals because the dumb humans have wiped them out because they still think some animal parts are some sort of erectile dysfunction cure.

  • GreatRedeemer

    I don’t think that I would consider nearly an hour drive away, near to my residence.
    Just like they have the right to protest, the circus has a right to participate in all legal acts.

  • peace

    Circus Animal Abuse: http://youtu.be/cVLXyFAtCvg

  • jz

    This is 2014 and I would hope that the majority of us have come to the conclusion by now that the best place for these animals in in their natural habitat only. Kids can learn just as much, even more by seeing and learning about the animals in their natural habitat. these animals do not deserve to live under just for entertainment. At the Toledo Zoo 20 years ago I saw an elephant swaying back and forth incessantly, never left its spot. I learned later that behavior is from extreme anxiety. Tell that to the kids on their field trip and I bet 90 percent would ask the teachers why do we do this to the poor elephant. The only education there is showing how dumb we humans can be. I will never go to a zoo again. Seeing a huge rhino in a silly room 20 ft x 20 ft or a giraffe in a room 50 square ft. when they need miles of space to live naturally is not just some animal sob story. Shooting game for food is one thing, zoos are another.

    • SweetScarlet

      I love it! AMEN!! Animals belong in the wild. Elephants are taken from their mother’s very early after birth for circuses. Can you imagine if someone stole a human baby from a mother and sold it to the circus to perform? Animals don’t do tricks in the wild–there is a reason for that. They don’t do tricks out of instinct. They are trained using painful tactics. They do tricks to avoid pain. Regardless, wild animals do not belong penned up, at any time.

    • michelle

      Thankyou.

  • Michelle Schilla

    My concern is for all life. I always think… These are wild animals. We have all seen the ” when animals attack” videos. It’s usually wild animals that are attacking and it’s often because people got in their way. So I never understand if you really want to care and protect your children why put them anywhere near a wild animal. I wouldn’t want my child to be the very last one the elephant could bare to give a ride to and “rampages”. It’s happened enough times that it’s been recorded. So why? Not only are you teaching your children total lack of compassion and ignorance to suffering but it’s also pretty reckless. Child endangerment! Animal abuse!

    • Simon Jester

      Please please please go visit Africa…..

      You wouldn’t last a day.

      • jz

        And your point is?

        • Sis Delish

          Allow me… Animals EAT each other in Africa. Doesn’t get any more morbid than that. Over here, they are protected from being EATEN by each other. I’d say they might prefer that to the alternative.

          Or, is that another Choose Life issue that the Lefties like to bash?

          • jz

            You don’t see a difference in animals doing that in their natural, “wild” habitat and keeping them caged in zoos? “Over here, they are……….prefer that to the alternative”. That is about the silliest analogy one could think Of Sis. And then you somehow bounce over to make it a political lefties thing? On acid in the 70′s I could make a more coherent argument.

          • Sis Delish

            What’s Next? Abolish All Pet Stores??

          • jz

            Comparing a pet store to a rhinoceros chained to a wall on a 6 foot leash. Man, you are really out there.

          • SniperFire

            The difference, please, from the perspective of a 3 ft. snake in a 20 gallon tank? Explain it.

          • jz

            Let the snake loose. Period.

          • SniperFire

            So the pet store comparison is QUITE valid.

            How do you feel about dog leashes?

          • jz

            I lost you on the pet store thing. No worries. All I can say is that by nature horses gravitate to a “herd” leader, that is, the horse in the herd who is 1 step above it as all herds have a social “pecking order”. Treat horses kindly, and they will work with you. If you abuse one it will be afraid of you and still gravitate to say the owner who treats it well. I will never see how that is the same as a “wild” animal who will never by nature succumb to humans unless bullied and taken away from its natural habitat. Here is a good bit of knowledge. Horses are flight animals. Their DNA does not contain hunting instincts. a horse will never attack offensively, rather, it will flee. You’ve seen the show where some really dumb people keep tigers, wolves, lions, bears in their private property? Never turns out good. A horse accident is just that a horse accident. The horse does not attack. Please don’t try to argue that one. If you do then it just proves my point that some people will do anything to “win” an argument. It’s too tiring trying to explain. Dog leashes?That’s just a silly question resorting to any means to “win” an argument when there is no point to the argument at all. Personally, I,m against zoos period. And if you are willing I,d gladly teach horsmanship to anyone. It is my favorite hobby.

          • SniperFire

            ‘I lost you on the pet store thing. ‘

            I didn’t read the rest of your nonsense. Are most pets, including horses, confined against their will just like zoo animals, or not?

            This is your big chance to set the record straight.

          • jz

            No, but you have to know horses first to understand they, like dogs and cats can be domesticated and be happy at the same time as long as treated well. A horse is not a tiger or rhinoceros. Enough already. don’t hate and be cool.

          • SniperFire

            ‘No’

            Liar. I bet yours are fenced in and kept in a stall.

          • jz

            You didn’t comprehend what I said which is based on years of experience, regarding the difference between flight and flight animals and how that makes horses not abused the way zoo animals are. Yeah,I just lied Most of all you’re just a hater with some mental/emotional issues which cause you to have an inordinate need to win an argument when from me to you you don,t know what you are talking about re horses. Last response to you. Say what you want. We can ll see you and sis are idiots.

          • SniperFire

            ‘You didn’t comprehend what I said ‘

            Sure I did. You cage animals and force them to do unnatural things for your personal enjoyment.

            You are just like a zoo keeper, except it can be argued that zoos are hugely instrumental in preserving species via their ability to propagate rare animals and educate people on them.

            You are just a user of the animal to get your kicks.

          • Sis Delish

            The so-called Horse people O.D.’d on Mr. Ed Re-runs, obviously.

          • michelle

            More stupid utterings out of your mouth again, obviously.

          • SniperFire

            Free fancy guppies from their glass prisons!

        • Michelle Schilla

          Why should I visit Africa? Am I supposed to be able to
          challenge an elephant for my life, wrestle a lion or ride a zebra to know what I’m talking about? Trying to tame a wild animal, holding it captive and forcing it to perform unnatural acts in barbaric and inhumane. I don’t doubt for one second I would surely perish if left to survive in the wilds of Africa. So part of my point 1. It’s inhumane to the animals…but 2. These animals are dangerous (hence your I would not survive). So why do parents allow their children to sit 50 feet away from a tiger “trained by some 3 toothed hillbilly…is there a tiger
          training school I don’t know about? Sure it’s totally safe to get on the back of an elephant. Sounds like a great idea. Elephants stampede and when they are caged, and chained and tortured they can become stressed and attack. So yes you are a serious genius. I would die in Africa. You’re kids however totally safe in Avon under a tent with a tiger and an elephant. Good point. Oh and the tiger and the elephant are so glad they’re not being eaten by something in the wild as well I’m sure. The circus is a much better option for them.

          • jz

            I think you responded to the wrong person. I agree with you 100 percent.

          • Michelle Schilla

            WHOOPS! Sorry I see I did. I took care of that.

          • SweetScarlet

            Well said!

      • Michelle Schilla

        Why should I visit Africa? Am I supposed to be able to
        challenge an elephant for my life, wrestle a lion or ride a zebra to know what I’m talking about? Trying to tame a wild animal, holding it captive and forcing it to perform unnatural acts in barbaric and inhumane. I don’t doubt for one second I would surely perish if left to survive in the wilds of Africa. So part of my point 1. It’s inhumane to the animals…but 2. These animals are dangerous (hence your I would not survive). So why do parents allow their children to sit 50 feet away from a tiger “trained by some 3 toothed hillbilly…is there a tiger
        training school I don’t know about? Sure it’s totally safe to get on the back of an elephant. Sounds like a great idea. Elephants stampede and when they are caged, and chained and tortured they can become stressed and attack. So yes you are a serious genius. I would die in Africa. You’re kids however totally safe in Avon under a tent with a tiger and an elephant. Good point. Oh and the tiger and the elephant are so glad they’re not being eaten by something in the wild as well I’m sure. The circus is a much better option for them.

    • Sis Delish

      Would you allow your child to attend RoverFest?

      • SweetScarlet

        Stay on topic. It’s obviously you post just for attention by now. What a waste.

  • Melissa Furman Shy

    The circus has wild, endangered animals perform ridiculous acts for your entertainment and the protesters are the crazy ones? You need entertainment read a book, educate yourself, take a walk, join a club, go out with friends or do you need to see cruelty or suffering for you to have a good time?

  • stillsleepyeyes

    oh my what a story, all these people for the animals to live their lives in the wild………….at the same time these same people in one way or another has taken at least some part of some wild animals habitat away from them………..things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

    • jz

      I,ve owned horses, trained and rode them. Taken care of and being domesticated, turned out with other horses, they have the best of both worlds. However, they have a powerful connection to their primitive past, one that thousand years of domestication has failed to squelch. And we have domesticated dogs and cats. You cannot compare those animals to ones in a zoo. If you can’t see that, despite some truth to what you are saying, then you are blind.

      • Sis Delish

        Did you “own” horses for the pleasure of “training” them for riding? I do not recall a horse in the wild being at the mercy of a human. But, I could be mistaken.

        • jz

          I will not even begin to try and educate you on horses and their behavior.

          • SniperFire

            Do you stick those nasty metal bars between their teeth and then cruely yank them with straps from side to side to make the horse turn at your whim? ouchie!

          • jz

            No. I,ve never even heard of that. Training horses today in not the same as “breaking” them in the old days, which was a term used. They learn by humans learning how they move, it is called making them “supple”. Doing it the way you describe would never work the horse would figure out they are much stronger then you and never turn. How do you think a little reign laid on their neck “asking” the horse to turn makes it go right or left. You have no idea what you are talking about and you’re about as far out there as sis. You gotta prove everybody wrong.

          • SniperFire

            ‘You gotta prove everybody wrong.’

            You have easily been proven wrong. What gives you the right to jump on the back of a horse and force it to go in ANY direction?

            You are a pathetic hypocrite, as are all liberals.

          • jz

            I just said the horse is not “forced”. and your “right to jump” statement totally contradicts everything else you say. And I,m Libertarian. More conservative than you quasi neo cons. Have a good day. Let’s not hate.

          • SniperFire

            I just said the horse is not “forced”

            You are a liar. Given it’s druthers, a horse would run wild and never come anywhere near you, much less permit you to jump on it’s back and control it.

          • michelle

            You cannot force a 1200 pound animal to do your bidding. We have domestic horses and build a relationship with them, showing leadership, which is what they look for first, trust, that what we ask will not harm them, firmness and kindness. The horse is a very unique animal in this way and cannot be compared to any other. They are quite therapeutic in many ways. You know nothing about this subject.

          • SniperFire

            ‘You cannot force a 1200 pound animal to do your bidding. ‘

            LOL. That is why you don’t have fences and lead them around without ropes? Too damn funny.

            Face it. You psychologically dominate and defeat these poor animals for your pleasure.

          • michelle

            we have fences to keep them safe from roads, encroaching on others property, to separate the mares from the studs, and sometimes the geldings. I have my horse as a companion animal, a trail horse and he loves grooming and carrots and, why am I even talking to you anymore?

          • SniperFire

            ‘we have fences to keep them safe ‘

            ROTFLMAO. Same with the lions and tigers and bears.

            OH MY!

          • michelle

            It is not defeat, it is harmonizing with another species.

          • SniperFire

            ‘It is not defeat, it is harmonizing’

            ROTFL. Hypocrite.

          • michelle

            We equestrians have come a long way in how we ride. Do not go by cowboy movies to judge how most of us communicate with horses. I generally do not need to use nasty metal bars between their teeth. My horse is ridden without pressure on his mouth. My legs lightly communicate where, when and how fast I want to go.

          • SniperFire

            ‘We equestrians have come a long way in how we ride. ‘

            So have zoo keepers. You are just a hypocrite, jumping on the back of horses, kicking them in the sides and keeping them fenced in and all.

          • michelle

            I do not kick. Did you not read my post?

          • Sis Delish

            They pull plows, carriages, chariots, Borax from the Desert, used in various mines where they never see the light of day, used in War, used in Sport for Gambling… bread for dough (stud service), make a nice adhesive I hear… wear metal shoes… provide many with fine fertilizer for home gardens… have I covered it all?

          • jz

            And they do not mind doing these things as they are social animals who take to human interaction as long as treated well. by nature they are submissive to anyone they perceive as a “herd” leader who will protect them. On this one only experienced horse people can explain it and explaining anything to you is a waste of time.

          • michelle

            shut it.

          • Sis Delish

            Training only works on Animals, right?… sorry.

          • SniperFire

            ….. and taste just like chicken!

      • stillsleepyeyes

        Ahhh, well I was just referring to the human population and the damage they have done to the land. unlike the animals side the populated many when there was enough resources to do so. so I wasn’t comparing animals to animals, but humans to animals.

      • michelle

        You cannot explain this to non horsemen.

        • jz

          Can you imagine trying to explain to sis about horses? We are experienced horse owners but, even if you laid out 3-4 well written paragraphs which would make sense to anyone not experienced with horsemanship she would manage to miss the point altogether. See the one sis wrote about doing away with all pet stores? And somehow tying that in to animals in a zoo.

          • michelle

            she makes my head spin. this will be my last post on this subject. sometimes it’s fun to poke the tiger, but when it comes to animal welfare topics, I take it seriously.

          • jz

            And how about sniper fire? You don’t have to meet that one to figure serious psychological issues. Knows jack about horses but will argue to the death with people who are experienced like ourselves. Sniper fire is a good name for it.

          • michelle

            I think having the last word is very important to these two keyboard warriors. Sadly they will never know the magic of horses. Happily, horses will never be exposed to them.

          • jz

            I have a framed saying on my wall which says in part…. “even if it’s just one horse that gets loose every other horse within earshot of the event goes crazy. Whenever this happens ,I get the same feeling that there is wildness in our horses that we just cannot tame. Despite the fact that we are able to form close bonds with them there is still a side to them that we as humans can never touch. They have a powerful connection to their primitive past that thousands of years of domestication has failed to squelch. Since the holiday season is the time to give thanks for what we have, I find myself especially grateful now that I have gained the friendship of one of these creatures. That a child of nature so bound to its ancient past is willing to trust me and do what I ask, and to even seek out my company is, in my opinion, one of life’s greatest and most sacred gifts.”

  • Lisa

    I hope the elephants bust out and stampede every adult under the big top!!

  • disqus_DTZmvcuv9j

    It’s time for this sort of archaic entertainment to go the way of the Dinosaur. The only educational value a Circus has is teaching people to dominate, control, exploit, and abuse creatures for amusement and profit. The animals look sad and weary. All they know is cages, boxcars, and tents with obnoxious music. When do they EVER get to run, or walk where they want to walk? I wouldn’t doubt if they had to medicate these animals with psychological meds (just like the whales at Sea World) to keep them under control. How very pathetic that people consider this FUN.

    • Sis Delish

      You posting sounds exactly how I would describe the Democrats in Congress, especially Nancy PeeLowSee and how they control their Voters. Nice Work!

      • Sue Lawson

        Donna if you’re so concerned about people, please donate blood, it is always appreciated. Yes I know you’re Donna from Donna’s Diner. Funny thing, when you put something on the internet, it is in cyber space forever…..

        • Sis Delish

          Yes, Sue Lawson, it IS up there forever.

          Unless, of course, you are a High-Level IRS Appointee under the Obama Adminstration whose e-mails mysteriously disappear… oooooooh.

          KoolAide Kills, just like Socialism. Sure hope you can prove your allegations, really I do.

          • Sue Lawson

            I don’t need to. Love how you always have to add your little insults.

          • Sis Delish

            Perhaps the target of your allegations should be made aware of your exemption from the need to prove your assault on their livelihood?

            That Libel stuff is expensive especially if there are Proven damages, fyi.

          • Sue Lawson

            Whatever, just help people.

          • Sis Delish

            No “Whatever”.

            You made the assault, now you own it. Prove it.

            Any Other Businesses you’d like to harm while you are at it? Go ahead, its your forum, trash another one. I’d bet Sue Lawson and her troll pals are not exactly in line for membership in the Chambers of Commerce around here.

      • jz

        What the heck are you on?

        • michelle

          She is riding bareback on her ego. I can see how intellectual she really thinks she is. Now a simple conversation about animal welfare has become an allegory to her political leanings.

      • michelle

        Still around, being annoying, I see.

  • disqus_DTZmvcuv9j

    For a Nation so obsessed with Freedom, how does it make sense to enjoy enslaved animals, who are handled by people with bullhooks and whips? Disgusting.

  • SniperFire

    Now if we could only get the Chronicle-Telegram to care enough about all of those the dead children – 259 found dead in one Texas county alone – which are the result of Obama’s disastrous open-borders policy – to do a story on it.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2712187/EXCLUSIVE-A-lot-people-die-blood-Obamas-hands-Shocking-images-corpses-illegal-immigrants-left-die-border-crossings.html

    But the media won’t touch that. They want us debating other things while ignoring the wholesale failure and death of Liberal policy making.

  • Sis Delish

    Here is what Elephants in the Wild do to innocent Humans…

    http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/nature/post/itch-scratching-elephant-terrifies-occupants-car/#.U-Nw-h_sisY.facebook

    Time to get the Sharpies Out, catch a flight to the Dark Continent and Protest!!

    • Michelle Schilla

      That elephant in your post appears to have meant no harm. I see
      no point in this post. However as I have tried to point out in a past post the humans got in the way and it could have easily destroyed them if it wanted to. That would be no fault of the elephant. The nature of an elephant is not one of a predator however if provoked, antagonized, threatened and tortured it will and has been known to defend itself and fight back. You want to show proof of how elephants behave let’s show how circus “trainers” behave as well.

      Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYjrjQ_SGAk&feature=share
      .Tell me you feel good about that and I will would say to you let’s not worry about my sharpie and trip to the “Dark Country” us innocent humans should worry about your dark soul. This happens, it is real. Wild animals cannot be domesticated that is nature. I protest the suffering that comes to these animals. I also warn about the risk humans put themselves and their children in when they attend this type of event. Here’s a few more clips you should enjoy them…they’re
      pretty brutal too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml-5NMCkyWQ
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sx3In6zCwc
      skip to 3 minutes in : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCTlxakFhBk.
      Now if these idiots are this careless with their own lives do you honestly
      think they are that capable of keeping the lives of children in the audience safe. So I say…maybe you don’t care about animals. Maybe suffering doesn’t touch your dark heart. Think about safety. Does that matter at all? Or can we just snatch up cute little baby elephants and lion cubs, teach them how to dance on balls and expect them never to rip off faces and crush humans who got in the way a wild animal being a wild
      animal. Good luck in the life you you live. I hope when it’s over you can be proud of how you treated man and creature. I know I can!

      • boonesimpson

        approved

  • ekwaykway

    “I love animals, that’s why I eat ‘em.”

  • Guest

    How said she cares more about animals than humans? What about equal compassion for both?

  • SweetScarlet

    Who said she had more care for animals than humans? How about equal care and compassion? These animals right now in this circus are getting much less care and compassion that humans.

  • Exposing Trolls

    Sis forgot to log out of their other account, rofl

    Edit: accounts :)

  • Lisa

    If I beat him into submission, then I hope he chews my arm off too!

  • Sis Delish

    Zero Compassion for Animals? LOL

    And you came to that conclusion from the postings here?

  • Sis Delish

    Kim is bashing a local business woman whom she has been lead to believe is Me. To my knowledge, neither any of the Animals in The Circus nor the attacked human have caused Kim any harm, yet, she is a defender of the Animals and an Attacker of the Human.

  • michelle

    We have come to the conclusions we have by what you write on this comment page.

  • Exposing Trolls

    Do confuse me with your mate.
    :)